Bulbapedia talk:Project Games

Wondering

Just wondering...shouldn't some other projecs be this project's subprojects?--Maria♥♪♫δ 07:04, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

I don't know...but some should be there I think.--Sher-e-Bengal- 05:25, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Game Stub Template

Is there anyway to use gamestub without categorizing the article as a game stub? Other than copying the code from the template itself onto this article. - _s.Combusken 06:51, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Unfortunately no. For that, you would have to copy the code from the template page.--Sher-e-Bengal- 05:25, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Joining

I added myself to the participants list. Hope thats ok --FLAMER! 12:49, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Of course it's ok! We need more participants to make this project successful!--Sher-e-Bengal- 05:25, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Im pretty new but I joined and will be helping as soon as possible--Munchy Lax 23:25, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

I'd like to join! I noticed you don't have anyone specifically working on the GC Pokémon games, and that's sort of my area of expertise. I'm actually replaying Pokémon Colosseum right now so a lot of it is pretty fresh in my mind.--Phantomjunkie 21:15, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Osu. I suppose I'm going to have to join here. My area of expertise is Black and White. I know all the places to get the info, and the pictures. Plus, I know what a lot of the fan-made names are, and the concept art for Mijumaru and Tsutaja's evolutions. Tailzoxy96 04:20, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Jurisdiction of GB Sets

Does the set in List of Pokémon Card GB sets fall under the jurisdiction of the TCG Project or the Game Project? - plau 00:20, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

It falls under Project TCG.--Sher-e-Bengal- 09:41, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

User tag update

Should the user tag image be updated to show the most recent gaming system?User:DCM 21:49, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Pokemon Scramble

Shouldn't Pokemon Scramble have a article? AlienX2008 01:43, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

It does. — THE TROM — 01:59, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Spin off games

Hola! I have a guidebook for Pokémon Stadium 2, complete with all opponents, their Pokémon, moves, items, etc. I'd like to put all this party info in.. but where? For the gym leader castle, would I put these parties on the Pokémon Stadium 2 page, where each opponent is already listed? Or on the individual gym pages? And for the cup opponents, would I list them on each cup page? I would just go ahead and make the changes, but I don't want people getting mad. Wanna make sure first!

I also have the guidebook for Pokémon Snap. I know this one's a bit less important, but there's official pictures of each area (Beach, Cave, River). Would it be good to upload those and put them on the Snap page, or just forget them? Thanks! --ℓaℓa ℓe snoωrunt 23:31, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Pokémon Ranger characters

Should there really be articles on every Pokémon Ranger character? Some just aren't notable like "Boy", which is about a Pokémon Ranger character which isn't created (the name can also be misleading as boy can refer to almost half of the people in the Pokémon World). If there needs to be an article on them, shouldn't there be an article called "List of NPCs in Pokémon Ranger" or something like that? Turtwig A Contributions Talk 12:48, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

What "boy" are you talking about? ^tc²₆tc₂₆ 13:02, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

In the wanted pages, there is an article called "Boy". The only link there is from a Pokémon Ranger article. Turtwig A Contributions Talk 13:07, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Now hiring

Anyone want to lead this Project on (at the moment) a temporary basis? Email your application here by noon, Monday 16 November (UTC), stating why the Editorial Board should pick you for the position. Candidates will be assessed on their previous contributions, their knowledge of the section, and their leadership potential. —darklordtrom 09:42, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Wasn't that yesterday? Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 22:40, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I was wondering about that myself. How can you have less than a day to prepare, write, and submit their application? It didn't seem fair.--Smartkidhen 23:06, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

It lasted for 5 days, not 1. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 23:46, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Really, I just saw the Message from the Editor, and it had just posted the job offer on the 16th. Sorry for the mix-up.--Smartkidhen 23:55, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I meant to note here that nominations have been extended due to a lack of people coming forth. If everything goes to plan we should have a new Project Leader by the end of the month. Remember, if you're keen let me know! —darklordtrom 05:24, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Extended until when? --LaprasBoi 21:40, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

End of the month. —darklordtrom 06:30, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Shouldn't this be noted in the Messages from the Editor? Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 13:49, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Ah, O.K., since you said the decision should be reached by then, I thought the deadline would be earlier. So, were there any viable submissions? Although even if it is still totally open I likely would not apply myself... failure to submit one by the deadline suggests to me that I might be just a smidge too busy to take on that kind of responsibility at the moment. --LaprasBoi 20:25, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Has it been decided yet? Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 03:29, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

It's harder to get the EB together than you think. So, no. —darklordtrom 07:23, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Anything? It has been almost a month since the former deadline.––Smartkidhen 14:53, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Where?

suggestion to where this should be put?

Name of Game	Year of USA Release
Red and Blue	1998
Yellow	1999
Gold and Silver	2000
Crystal	2001
Ruby and Sapphire	2003
FireRed and LeafGreen	2004
Emerald	2005
Diamond and Pearl	2007
Platinum	2009
HeartGold and SoulSilver	2010

SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch 15:09, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Template Pic

Please, somebody fix the "Project Games notice" template. The Image is missing. Thanks in advance --SaitoFX 27 May 2010, 19:37 (UTC)

It's a sync issue; the image exists on the archives, it just hasn't synced with Bulbapedia yet. Nothing to do but wait. It'll show up eventually. 梅子^❀_✿ 19:47, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Subproject

I listed you as a parent project on my project, so you should list it as a subproject. Flyingtypefan 02:02, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Scope

This project page makes it appear that the project only covers the games themselves, but I have seen the Project Games notice pop up on game mechanic pages too. So should these notices be removed, or are they correct and this page should be rephrased? --SnorlaxMonster 12:51, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Pokemon Type Wild

There is a fan-made Pokémon game called Type Wild which I think is quite popular... Should we make the page for it? Milkgila 06:16, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Hack games. Take it up on the talk page first. If a few other people have actually heard of it, it might be added to the page. --SnorlaxMonster 06:36, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Adding links to credits on game pages

I find it odd how the only way you can view the list of credits for the games is by searching directly for them. I think we should implement a link to them in the actual game pages, but I'm not sure whether to edit the Infobox template, or go Mario Wiki and add a section to each game page that links to the credits. Soincfunt 17:00, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

To-do of what I found

1. The trainers from Jubilife TV in DP - they move around in Platinum and get stronger over time. By over time, I mean reaching certain points in the game. First time I fought the Interviewers, they had Lv. 23 team instead of Lv. 6 team, had two Badges. Someone may wanna check when they upgrade team.
2. Royal Unova's pre-Champion Easy and Challenge modes info
3. Big Stadium and Small Court - it hardly has any Easy and Challenge modes info.

Marked +-+-+ (talk) 19:36, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

I added my name in the Participants

I wanted to let you know I added my name in the Participants.--Ethan7 (talk) 01:41, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

I resigned. That's okay, right? And could I start project trivia? If it is okay.----Ethan (Talk) 20:07, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

About game development info

How about we divide the leftover/unused data found in the code of games and general development info? The articles for the games themselves would contain information on the latter, such as info from comments and interviews with the developers, how long it took to develop the games, etc. Meanwhile the former part would remain as is in either "Development leftovers of <game>" or "Data mining of <game>" (since data mining is actually used by fans and this doesn't have an official title anyway). What do you guys think? SatoMew 15:38, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

Titles of core series game articles

I think that for the sake of consistency and simplicity, the titles of core series game articles should all drop the "Version" moniker. First, not having it doesn't make it less official since both official and third-party reliable sources often don't use it. Second, it would help editors since they wouldn't have to add alternative text without the moniker all the time just so that the links are direct to the game articles, not to mention that it would also deprecate a few templates we use for that purpose alone.
For example, the article about the Generation V sequels is titled "Pokémon Black and White Versions 2" instead of simply "Pokémon Black 2 and White 2". An editor that uses templates to directly link to the article as well as alternative text to not include the "Version" moniker has to type in {{game|Black and White|s 2|Pokémon Black 2 and White 2}} as opposed to {{g|Black 2 and White 2}}, {{pkmn|Black 2 and White 2}}, or the standard Wikilink-style [[Pokémon Black 2 and White 2]]. This shouldn't have to be like this. SatoMew 16:00, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

The official titles of the core series games prior to Pokémon X and Y (Yellow is a special case I'm not going to discuss here) all include "Version" in their official titles. While there are informal situations where it is dropped (even in official circumstances), the correct titles always include "Version". It may be more convenient for that not to be the case, but it unfortunately is. We should not rename articles to less proper titles simply for linking convenience. --SnorlaxMonster 16:08, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

I wouldn't be suggesting it if it were purely for the sake of convenience. Not using "Version" is not being less official, and even the older Japanese games use "<name> Version" in plain English on certain occasions. It'd still remain official and it'd be consistent with the common official and fan usage. The lead section of articles doesn't have to be changed. SatoMew 16:13, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

Is this worth discussing at this point? I see the move template was added to all the pages, but this discussion is from last December. I think if anyone wants to propose moving all the pages, a new discussion should be started rather than continuing this one, especially considering that SnorlaxMonster already said that the articles shouldn't be moved. slimey01 21:56, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

Yes, it is. Having "Version" just makes things complex, especially when it's not any more official than the titles without the moniker. サトミュウ (SatoMew) 22:55, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

What about something like Pokémon Red Version and Blue Version and Pokémon Black Version 2 and White Version 2? It makes the article titles a little longer, but it sounds better than "Pokémon Red and Blue Versions" and way better than "Black and White Versions 2"*. We call the PMD1 article "Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team" and not "Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red and Blue Rescue Teams", so why not keep it consistent? —★レシイラム^talk 08:52, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

We are not moving the pages because "it makes it easier". The official titles have "Version" and the box arts have "Version" (which for me should be reason number one to not move them).--ForceFire 09:46, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

It isn't enough. Pokémon <name> has the same official status as Pokémon <name> Version so there is no valid reason to not move it. Like Reshii and I said, it would improve consistency. We're not talking about conjectural titles, these are 100% official. Emotional responses like "no because no" don't cut it as justification against the move. サトミュウ (SatoMew) 18:04, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

Yes, Pokémon <name> is just as official as Pokémon <name> Version, but if the boxart and a majority of official sources have "VErsion" in the title, then we're going to use what a majority of sources use. We're not going to change it because it makes things easier. Consistency is not valid in this situation, if an official sources uses one thing over the other, we use that.--ForceFire 03:38, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

I still think having "Verions" sounds silly, especially with "Black and White Versions 2" and that "Pokémon Black Version 2 and White Version 2" not only sounds better but more accurately reflects the games' titles. I have both games, and if I were to tell someone that, I would say I own "Black Version 2 and White Version 2, not "Black and White Versions 2"... —★レシイラム^talk 09:36, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

(resetting indent) We're not really doing what the majority of official and third-party sources do. They usually go with simply Pokémon Diamond and Pearl, which is the naming convention adopted in Wikipedia, or with full names, Pokémon Diamond Version and Pokémon Pearl Version, as you can see in the official Pokémon website.

The word "Versions" does not appear in the box art. We are the ones using it. I'm not saying we should definitely drop the use of "Version" for convenience sake, but if we stick to using it, then we should at least use it correctly, as in Pokémon Diamond Version and Pearl Version rather than Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions. The naming convention we currently use is specially dumb in the case of Pokémon Black Version 2 and White Version 2, which we call "Versions 2" just to have a shorter title, and in doing so we're not only being inaccurate, but also inconsistent because our templates call them Black 2 and White 2 or B2W2 rather than Black and White 2 or BW2.--Mikuri 14:25, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

I rather suspect the B2W2 page title is like that not so much to be "shorter" but just to accomodate {{game}} and its cousins. More to the point, I suppose, since all the previous titles (and {{game}}) are set up like that, "Black and White Versions 2" is almost the choice that had to be made, unless all of those templates and titles were going to be changed (as is being discussed here). (...I'm not making any comment on the correctness of that choice; I'm just saying I don't think that title was chosen "just" for shortness. Of course, I wasn't at all around when that decision was made, though.) Tiddlywinks (talk) 15:24, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

I know we're not Wikipedia but they have a clear policy regarding article titles: use whatever is most widely recognized by people in general as long as it's accurate. This is why their articles on the core Pokémon games don't have the "Version" label in them, though it is mentioned in the lead (like we do already). People rarely refer to the game titles by using the label. Additionally, we need stop obsessing over this fussy idea that the first word in the first sentence of the lead must be the article's title since it has never been a rule on Bulbapedia or on Wikipedia (for obvious reasons of course: it makes no sense whatsoever). SatoMew2 (talk) 15:45, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

Italicised game titles

Is there any particular reason as to why we don't italicise game titles on this site? It's something that's always bothered me because it's inconsistent with our italicisation of episode and movie titles. —★レシイラム^talk 22:53, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

I guess no one ever thought about it. It's something I've had in mind for a long time as well but, right now, the above discussion has priority imo. サトミュウ (SatoMew) 22:55, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

*Bump*

I'd really like a long-time admin's explanation for this. Realistically, they are titles and should be italicised. Almost (if not all, I didn't actually check) of NIWA's other wikis italicise their game titles. —★レシイラム^talk 06:44, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

Anyone? I'm all for changing it, and it'd be nice to have an admin's input, even just to say they're talking about it behind the scenes or something. slimey01 02:33, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

I am also in full support of italicizing game titles (I was just about to go ask about this quirk on the Manual of Style XD); it's been bothering me for so long that Bulbapedia doesn't have videogame titles italicized in comparison to a lot of other wikis' mentions of their own applicable videogames, when most other media (mostly anime) has been italicized on Bulbapedia when necessary. It would be nice to have input from a higher staff member as well. Fenyx4 (talk) 21:19, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Diplomas

Hey Ah I'm kinda new here, I'm wondering where I go to offer to submit pics of the Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire Diplomas as I just got the Regional and National Diploma's last night... I've got fairly good pics of both. - unsigned comment from Shadow_King23 (talk • contribs)

Which pages are part of this project?

Do you keep a list somewhere? Can somebody link me to it? sumwun (talk) 00:29, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

Errors

Should there be a page for errors? Look at my talk page for more info. (Trainer2 (talk) 15:09, 11 October 2019 (UTC))

Uniformity and Masters

I noticed Lance and Whitney’s games sections for example, differ in structure. Also, there’s not a lot of Masters related work. Pokémon Puzzle League/Challenge appearances aren’t spin-off game appearances, but trivia? None of this makes sense to me and I would appreciate assistance--KnightGalarie (talk) 20:41, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

I've reached out to some staff who were working on stuff and will let you know when I have some info, part of the issue is not all the Pokemon have pages and those that do, what is the split you have between the character and their page. Some pages in the interrim don't do a bad job but certainly not enough. --Spriteit (talk) 04:54, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

I also brought up on the Sync pair talk page that as a tandem, it shouldn't matter whether the Pokémon have pages or not, the trainers still do. Their partner Pokémon in these is equivalent to their party. They have roles in their sync pair stories. Having the trainer's entire Masters presence on their own page be reduced to their dialogue, their voice artist, and their sprite(s) when they’re part of sync pairs just doesn’t feel right.--KnightGalarie (talk) 05:00, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Isle of Armor and Crown Tundra colors

I saw that the Isle of Armor and the Crown Tundra has their logos match their colors, I wonder if it is an error, I'm going to create their color templates just in case the logos are right (which is most cases is). --SaturnMario, his talk and his contributions 23:15, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Generations with unique attributes

I see that there are articles about generations with unique attributes that need their trivia sections improved. Can I improve them to match Generation II's trivia about its unique attributes? --SaturnMario, his talk and his contributions 16:57, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

missing info on clothes from let's go

sorry for dropping in like this but i noticed that we were missing info on clothes from let's go pikachu and eevee and didn't know where else to bring this up where it could be easily noticed Wild Starfish (talk) 22:29, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

Pokémon Species Data Structure

I saw the bulbapedia page on Pokémon Species Data Structure of Gen I, II and III. I appreciated the work that put in. I am wondering if any additions are being made to the next generations, like IV, V, VI etc. and if there is a location that has a list of all pokémon's fingerprints as seen in this page: https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_species_data_structure_(Generation_III) Thanks.- unsigned comment from Shtinamin (talk • contribs)

Mainspace Pokémon Colosseum series

There's an article I made on the Pokémon Colosseum series. I humbly ask if there's a possibility to move this template into the main content spaces. The Pokémon Colosseum series can trade Pokémon with Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald, FireRed, and LeafGreen. They take place in the Orre region and are also the only RPG Pokémon games released after Crystal not to give the player the choice of playing as either a boy or a girl, the only side series Pokémon games with similar mechanics to the core series games, and the only RPG Pokémon games that players can catch other Trainers' Pokémon in. Also, in the Pokémon Colosseum series, players can upload Pokémon from their Game Boy Advance games to battle in 3D in VS Mode, featuring various classes for Trainers to beat. Can we move it into the main content spaces? --SaturnMario, his talk and his contributions 00:39, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

Move generation pages

The Pokémon Company officially calls every generation the "<ordinal number> generation". I was wondering if there's a possibility to move these pages to these titles:

• Generation I → First generation
• Generation II → Second generation
• Generation III → Third generation
• Generation IV → Fourth generation
• Generation V → Fifth generation
• Generation VI → Sixth generation
• Generation VII → Seventh generation
• Generation VIII → Eighth generation
• Generation IX → Ninth generation

Does this look okay to you? --SaturnMario, his talk and his contributions 11:35, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

Quite frankly, I think we're fine without doing that. "If it ain't broke; don't fix it." The two formats aren't really fully-different names per se, they're really just two ways of representing the same numerical concept. Paintspotinfez (talk) 21:55, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

We've only ever had numbered generations referred to in official sources twice: "sixth generation" on Masuda's blog and "9th Generation" on an internal Game Freak greeting card. (Both sources are also tricky to actually rely on — one is Masuda's personal blog rather than something produced by TPC/Game Freak, while the other is a card not intended for public distribution.) While both are ordinals, they are also both in different formats, so I'm not sure there's a clear reason to choose either in particular. Given how significant a change renaming the generation pages would be, I would want to be very confident in the chosen new titles before we moved them. --SnorlaxMonster 13:03, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

When did they start using these terms officially? It seems like they were originally fan-made terms and were then co-opted by The Pokémon Company (and affiliates). Qzekrom (talk) 01:20, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

The cast commentary for the Detective Pikachu film–which is an original English source so there's no language barrier–uses "Generation I". This was moved to a more obvious part of the page a few days after the most recent comment in this discussion, and is relevant as the only official usage of the Roman-numeral form. bwburke94 (talk) 14:03, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

The names of these pages is baked into a lot of the infrastructure of how we title and detail content on the wiki. Given the variety of terms appearing in minor instances, and the general comments from the above editors, I am making the executive decision to remove the templates for now. ^Maverick_Nate 12:23, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

Please create Pokémon evolution data structure (Generation IV)

Can someone please create Pokémon evolution data structure (Generation IV)? Content for it can be found at the current end of Bulbapedia:Sandbox. Pory Here (talk) 21:46, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Never mind, I could finally do it myself. Pory Here (talk) 11:07, 23 January 2024 (UTC)