Talk:May (anime)

That pic got horribly distorted. Help? Anyone? Evkl 20:32, 27 Feb 2005 (UTC)

How's that? Use "Frame" instead of "Thumb". - Ferret 20:40, 27 Feb 2005 (UTC)

May just got Munchlax. Someone might want to mention that in her bio. The ep was called "May Deliciously Captures Munchlax". Screenshots are at SPP that confirm it.LedianX 19:51, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Wasn't the policy that Pokémon are only to be linked to once per article unless absolutely necessary? Munchlax is already listed at the beginning of the article. On top of that, there's a double standard when Torchic is only linked once but Munchlax is twice. Argy

You forget that lists are excepted from the rule since they should be convenient to use. - 刘 (劉) 振霖

Y'know, if there's one thing about May I don't get, it's this: When she first saw a Treecko in AG001, she creeped out. While in AG007, she didn't show the slightest bit of being uncomfortable when around a whole bunch of them.

She also hated Pokémon in AG001, while she doesn't by AG007. It's a plot hole. (Which is actually a shame since they could have shown her actually changing through the contest storyline.) FabuVinny 08:48, 20 November 2005 (CST)

When did May wear a bikini?HK-47

Blaziken?

I don't think May's lineup should be updated with Blaziken until we see it evolve in the show.

It already has evolved on the show. --FabuVinny 15:51, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Swablu?

Shouldn't Swablu count as a Pokémon that she temporarily owned? I mean we count Manaphy which she never caught so why not Swablu? Truthfully I think they should both count as Pokémon that she had befriended. - unsigned comment from Kenji-girl (talk • contribs)

No, we don't count Manaphy. Some idiot keeps on putting that in there. If we counted every wild Pokemon someone made pals with, everyone would have like 60 Pokemon listed. --Zeta 02:00, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh, and that idiot would be Tiago Luke. If we added every Pokemon a character ever befriended, Brock would have Sharpedo, Stantler, Ninetales and Max would have Ralts, Poochyena, Poliwag, and Jirachi and everything would just get incredibly silly. --Zeta 02:06, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Actually, that Ninetales was named and unique, so it could definitely warrant an article... but yeah, not identified as Brock's. --Pie ^~♪♫ 02:13, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, someone's added Swablu now. Why though, if it was never really hers? - Cassius335 18:44, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Rival

I don't think May is the only character to have a rival of the oppisite gender. I mean Brock has Suzie. And what about Ash and Casey? - Kenji-girl

I agree in some ways, but Drew is her main rival and Casey is like a secondary rival to Ash, not like Gary. Tesh 22:42, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Put simply, Casey and Suzie aren't rivals in the way Gary/Paul/Drew/Harley/Zoey are. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 22:54, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Beautifly and Skitty?

In The Unbeatable Lightness of Seeing (or something like that), didn't May get Beautifly and Skitty back? In which case, why are they listed on her bio as "at home"? They're with May now, right? --

Glitch Pokémon and Official Pokémon There is no real difference between the two. In my opinion, the two should be considered equal!

14:16, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Your guess is just about as good as anyone else's. May hasn't been seen since Home is Where the Start Is and as far as I know, she said nothing about keeping her Skitty and Beautifly with her.--Pokencyclopedia 15:26, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Reappearance?

Is she really appearing in DP076?Because that would be cool i hope Max is there too and Misty lolCool Pikachu!!!

Look, the Episode summary on Pokeani may have said a reappearance (pun not intended), but that could have been an april fools joke. We need to wait until AT LEAST after the Wallace episode airs (Since there will be a preview for the 76th episode after that.) to be ABSOLUTELY certain that she will reappear in that episode (which even THAT isn't 100% guaranteed since the writers seem to like messing with their fans minds [the Buizel capture episode preview comes to mind.].).

Also, even IF it is confirmed that she is going to make an appearance in that episode (which would be extremely random even FOR pokemon to have her reappear when she is supposed to be doing Contests in Johto. I mean, at least Misty's reappearance made sense, since she doesn't HAVE to travel, plus, the gym wasn't even her goal, but with May shirking off her goal in life for almost no reason whatsoever, thats extremely random, no matter HOW you mention it.), It doesn't mean that Max would reappear, especially since he is supposed to be waiting until he becomes old enough to train Pokemon (which may never happen considering how the creators said Ash's age is ten years old even AFTER 6 regions have passed [yes, six, I count the Orange Islands and the Battle frontier as Regions].), and he would have to travel around Hoenn first BEFORE going to Sinnoh (then again, Paul DID travel through other regions first and THEN did pokemon training in his home region last.).

~~Weedle_McHairybug~~

Except, you know, April Fool's Day jokes usually take place on April Fool's Day. And Wallace is probably a world-famous Coordinator in the anime. Nothing wrong with traveling to the northern half of the country for that. The Convention could also have been an invitational. You never know, maybe the committee took care of May's traveling issues. (And I fail to see how doing a Contest is a different region constitutes "shirking one's goal in life." Is her life's calling limited to contests in Johto or something?)--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 01:25, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Also, causing this much commotion, and leading up to a fake, could bring a negative effect to the website. ^PokeManiac₁₀₂ 02:03, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Naw its on Bulbanews now I think they check their sources. So May is coming back I wonder if she will get a new traveling outfit like Misty did when she showed up. So the plot I read has a dual contest with Dawn as a teammate against Ash and Brock. The guys really should stand no chance despite the fact that both have competed in contests. The 2 girls have competed in many more...wait wasn't May traveling with Drew and Harley or did she decide to travel seperately I don't really remember the BF very much. Bobtherandomguy 02:14, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Who knows this may be true or a prank i hope it's true cause i miss the old characters and seeing them again and mabye May is there cause Wallace invite her and stuff for a comp.who knows......... Cool Pikachu!!!

It's quite possible she will wear her Emerald outfit. Just without the green^PokeManiac₁₀₂ 05:34, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Yeah i hope so but do u think Max is going to appear i think not if this Episode is not a Prank Cool Pikachu!!!

Remember, May went off to travel Johto alone^PokeManiac₁₀₂ 05:42, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

True...but the plot of this episode does not make any sence because she went to Johto with Drew and Harley but who knows...Cool Pikachu!!!

Wallace is holding a very special contest and May decides to attend. Just wait and watch. Good night^PokeManiac₁₀₂ 05:50, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

kk night I'm going off tooCool Pikachu!!!

I don't think it's a special contest.I think it's an unofficial contest only.And it makes no sense that May leave Johto for an unofficial contest.And May is not special.Why does Wallace need to invite her.Why not invite a GF winner like Johanna?-Billy4b2004 08:31, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

We don't know why or we would know. Amazing concept huh. <(sarcasm) Crystal Lucario 11:41, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Except, you know, April Fool's Day jokes usually take place on April Fool's Day. And Wallace is probably a world-famous Coordinator in the anime. Nothing wrong with traveling to the northern half of the country for that. The Convention could also have been an invitational. You never know, maybe the committee took care of May's traveling issues. (And I fail to see how doing a Contest is a different region constitutes "shirking one's goal in life." Is her life's calling limited to contests in Johto or something?)--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 01:25, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

While it IS true that Afd jokes usually take place on April fools day, that doesn't mean that it's exclusively on that day. Look at Electronic Gaming Monthly: Those Guys air their April Fools Day Jokes on FEBRUARY, for goodness sakes!

Also, in regards to what I mean to "Shirking off her goal in life" what I mean is that she left in the middle of her run in Johto just to attend a contest in Sinnoh which she could have easily waited for after she gets done with Johto. I mean, did Ash leave for another region when he was in the middle of his own region just because of something that was of Interest for him? No he did not (and before anyone mentions the Whirl Islands, they don't count since they are part of Johto, and plus, it was something Misty wanted to do), Gary and Paul didn't do that either, so if they aren't doing it when they were doing it in THEIR journeys, then May shouldn't either.

And, BTW, that's only IF it is true. the only way we can get OFFICIAL confirmation for now is through the episode previews at the very least, so we have a long wait until then. Maybe if the episode summary didn't appear until AFTER this years April Fools Day, I would be much more believing (and accepting of it even though I feel it is the writers biggest Mistake since i have negative emotions of her.)

~~Weedle_McHairybug~~

A magazine is a different manner. They're not time-sensitive the way a website can be.--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 01:46, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

I forget

Although it says Top 4, for the Hoenn Grand Festival, was May in the top 4 or top 8? PokeManiac102 00:40, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Sigh...

Ok, I really think that the part about May being the second main character other than Ash to get her own movie should be removed from the Trivia section.

I mean, let me be frank with you, May didn't HAVE a lead role in a movie, especially the Manaphy movie, since, Guess what, Ash got the limelight in the end of that movie.

In order for her to have a lead role in that movie, it should be completely dedicated to herself (in other words, EVERY SINGLE THING in that movie, especially it's ending, is solely focused on her.). In other words, the only one who actually GOT a lead role in a movie was Max.

I mean, if the second movie wasn't counted as Misty's film DESPITE her playing a very BIG role in that movie, how is the ninth movie any different?

Maybe I'm not seeing something, but I think we should remove the "May's the second pokemon character OTHER than ash to get a lead role in a movie" thing from the trivia Section. Weedle Mchairybug 20:38, 31 March 2008 (UTC)Weedle McHairybug

Weedle, we went through this with Dawn already. I swear you just posted this to start a fight.

No, "lead role" does not mean "May does absolutely everything." She's a main character, not a Mary Sue. - Cassius335 09:17, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

No, my intent wasn't to start a fight. If it was, I would have called people names. I did actually think she was undeserving of the title. I mean, I should just say that, unlike the Dawn thing, not once did I say that none of the others shouldn't appear at all.

And, BTW, if lead role doesn't mean "she has to do everything", then why is it that Max is the one who actually DOES everything in the Jirachi Movie? I mean, even the ending/climax was completely devoted to him.

See what I mean? I mean, Misty also had a very huge role in "The Power of One" (big enough of a role to have her arguably being a co-star/lead in that movie), and many people still thought she wasn't a lead of that movie.

Likewise, May had a huge role in "Pokemon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea", and the climax had Ash getting the limelight, and she was still considered the lead role of the movie despite being the same as Misty in that Movie in terms of roles.

This is the reason why I feel that she was really undeserving of the title. If you don't want it deleted, fine, suit yourself, I won't stop you, but just know that this is my rationale.

Weedle Mchairybug 10:30, 1 April 2008 (UTC)Weedle McHairybug

Why does your username have your name in thrice? Once will do.

Anyway, you're going to have to do better than "because Ash stole the ending". May and Manaphy's relationship was still one of the driving forces of the plot, more so than...actually, what DID Misty have to do with the plot for Power Of One? I seem to remember that being more of an Ash movie. - Cassius335 12:03, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

CPR. TTEchidna 14:12, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

As TTEchidna said, CPR. However, she also braved stormy seas chasing after Ash when Ash's Pikachu was going for Fire Island, she helped Ash get the confidence to go to Ice Island, and she was the [First] one who figured out that the legend was meaning that Ash is the chosen one (in the dub, at least, but I'm pretty certain that a similar thing was done in the original version.), so, in that movie at least, she did quite a lot, if you ask me. It's no different than when May was nursing that Manaphy.

As for why I have my username in thrice, it's because I tried to sign it in four tildes WITH my user name (since that's how they told me how to sign my username.

Weedle Mchairybug 22:13, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Ok, Misty did a bit, but Power of One was still more of an Ash movie (Given he was the one who was the Chosen One and collected the Orbs of Fire, Ice and Lightning). May was still a heck of a lot more central to the plot of Prince of the Sea than Misty was in Power Of One - Cassius335 22:48, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Wartortle

A new summary implies that her Squirtle evolved since the Summary says she will enter the Wallace Contest with a Wartortle. Or we going to leave it out until the episode (DP077) airs? --Dman dustin 19:28, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

We don't know if it is already evolved or will evolve during the first couple of episodes so leave it for now. --FabuVinny ^{|Talk Page|} 19:50, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Funny... I would've expected news of Eevee first. TTEchidna 21:15, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

I wouldn't have, and I hate you Fabu-Vinny, who ever made you administrator???PokeManiac102 21:18, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Uh, why do you hate me? --FabuVinny ^{|Talk Page|} 21:37, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, that's stupid to say. I protected it. TTEchidna 21:53, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

No, I hate Fabu-Vinny for all that Befriended stuffPokeManiac102 22:13, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

So not only is it a personal attack, it is one that has nothing to with this discussion. Please try to be a little more civilised in future. It makes for much more productive discussion. --FabuVinny ^{|Talk Page|} 22:25, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

It's also a lame reason. Swablu's barely on-par with a character like Samurai. TTEchidna 22:27, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Oh I don't care about Swablu, I only care about manaphy, riolu, latias, lucario, hippopotas, THE MORE IMPORTANT ONES!PokeManiac102 22:52, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Oh, that's alright then. *rolls eyes* Please do calm down, Pokemaniac. Sniping isn't going to help matters. - Cassius335 14:23, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Manaphy, Latias, and Lucario: movie PotDs. Riolu and Hippopotas: Can we say Jigglypuff? TTEchidna 17:24, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Manaphy deserves some sort of recognition in the "May's Pokemon" section: May is/was it's mother, after all. It's basically Togepi, only with more character and less screen-time. - Cassius335 19:41, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

D/P May

Should I put this picture on the page?File:1.jpg User:CoolPikachu!

AG pic

Since the page is in protect mode and I thusly can't do it myself, could one of the mods please either 1) put a [=
=] command in between the Character' and Pokemon sections or 2) shrink the May's AG outfit picture a bit? The page looks slightly untidy at the moment.

Glaceon

We should add about Glaceon to the article because Eevee has evolved as of DP076.

...have you not been paying attention whatsoever? :/ Tina^☆♫ 18:52, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

But Serebii.net seems to have confirmed that the Glaceon is May's. Why not add it? I'm Missingno. Master, and I approve this message. 19:22, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

The episode hasn't aired yet. Let's just wait. After all, the Pokémon news doesn't revolve around Serebii.. ;>_> Who knows, it might not be May's (no matter what the slim chance..) Tina^☆♫ 19:25, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

May was seen commanding something immediately after Glaceon was seen. Though that's definitely evidence in an episode, this was a preview. I could make a preview, too, for DP074's US airing, showing Ash commanding a Raichu. Lemme prove it by doing so... in a bit. TTEchidna 21:34, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

By the by, this trick would work best if you didn't understand a word of Japanese. If you can pick up on a few keywords, though, you won't fall for it. TTEchidna 21:40, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

There. Fake preview done. I know it sucks. TTEchidna 22:53, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Picture

Shouldn't May's AG picture go in the template rather than her new outfit? That's how everyone else's is. Porygon-Z 21:38, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Ash's new outfit is in his... TTEchidna 21:49, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

And Gary's is in his... Brock and Misty are in their FRLG art... TTEchidna 21:55, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Ok let me add some info I forgot. I mean that the rest have the characters whole body. And in the newest possible outfit in which a full body picture is available. Porygon-Z 21:56, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Since May was only a main character for Advanced Generation, her outfit from that time probably should take precedence. --FabuVinny ^{|Talk Page|} 22:01, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

New Trivia

• Since she competed in the Wallace Cup in DP78, May is the only Coordinator so far who has competed in every Main Game Series Region.

Anyone who could phrase that better, be my guest. I'm just listing it here since I can't even edit the page right now...--PikamasterADV 23:32, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

DP078 has not happened yet, so no, she is not the only coordinator so far who has competed in every Main Game Series Region•Pokemaniac102 23:33, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

When she competes we will add. TTEchidna 23:39, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Were did May get an Omitrix?Cerberus 23:57, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Omitrix???ok?CoolPikachu

Having researched and discovered that that an Omitrix is the watch from Ben 10, I assume you're talking about PokéGear. She probably got it in Johto. But like I said, I don't watch the anime, so I have no idea what you're talking about. --Martonimos_((Talk))

Ditto:)CoolPikachu!

Wha? blah, anyway, NOTHING GOES ON THAT PAGE TILL THE EPISODE AIRS•Pokemaniac102 00:09, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Well..Duh because we could ALL be wrong.. CoolPikachu! 00:10, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

No, not that, because

1. It hasn't even happened yet.
2. TTEchidna said so.

•Pokemaniac102 00:18, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Huh now you lost me a lot!CoolPikachu!

00:20, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

blah•Pokemaniac102 00:22, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

uhhh......CoolPikachu!

00:24, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Sure he makes sense. It's Bulbapedia policy that nothing in the Anime happens until it actually happens, to prevent speculation from running rampant. If a preview shows a snorlax and eveyone goes "OMG ITS MAYZ LOL", and then it isn't May's, we'd have a bunch of edits to revert and we'd look sort of stupid. That's why the policy exists. A shame nobody seems to pay attention to it... --Martonimos_((Talk)) 00:26, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Ohh that makes more senseCoolPikachu! 00:28, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

I pay attention! :) and Do they always need to spell it out for you Cool Pikachu?•Pokemaniac102 00:30, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

.......CoolPikachu! 00:35, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Easy there, guys. Nobody wants a flame war. We're all friends here.

Anyway... can anyone figure out for sure if it really is a PokéGear that Cerberus was talking about? Obviously, we wouldn't be able to mention it until the episode actually airs, but once we can, it might be important. Now that I think of it, it could have just as easily been a Pokétch... I guess we'll have to wait to find out. --Martonimos_((Talk)) 00:36, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes we are ok I'll check online for anything if it's a PokéGear and trueCoolPikachu! 00:38, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Don't forget! Could be Ash's! TTEchidna 00:46, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Yup btw is this a contest or a tag-battle type thing?User:CoolPikachu!01:11, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

From what I can decipher of Cerberus's comments, he was just talking about May's wrist bands that are part of her Emerald uniform. Evidently, no PokéGear. Blast. --Martonimos_((Talk)) 04:05, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

I KNEW IT! So they were wrist bands :) I was right-CoolPikachu!

Johto Ribbons

I saw today's new episode and saw May with 3 ribbons are those for Johto???CoolPikachu!

Yep. TTEchidna 01:39, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Should those be added on her page?Or no because we don't what cities she got them from so it shouldn't be longCoolPikachu!

That doesn't matter. We can just say she won 3 Johto ribbons. Jmath 10:04, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes, we can. However, it would be better if we could identify those ribbons... --ニョロトノ666 20:21, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, but till any info is given on which cities the ribbons belong to, we can only say she won them. Jmath 20:36, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Protection

Aaand we're back on protect mode. Thank god for that; Kuki was driving me up the wall. What worries me more is that the article seems to have dissapeared from my watchlist. Is this a new feature? - Cassius335 18:55, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

YO I"M STILL HERE!!!!!--KukiTalk 18:56, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Oh. - Cassius335 18:58, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

And Pikablu is already arranging to lift the protection, revert it back 2 my edit, and then put it bak under protection (2 avoid gun-jumpers)!--KukiTalk 19:00, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

I never said any such thing. Please don't make false claims.

Besides, sysops can still edit the articles directly, which meant if I WERE to revert to Kuki's edit, I could do it without lifting the protection. --Shiningpikablu252 19:04, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Could someone fix the line that says she appears from DP076 through DP080? Dp080 has been confirmed to be the Yanma Capture Operation, not the Wallace Cup Finals vs. Yanmega. ~RR~ 02:15, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Munchlax missing

I'm not familiar with Bulbapedia's formats, but Munchlax has mysteriously vanished from May's list of Pokemon. Anybody know how to add it back in? Matkin22 20:34, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

I have corrected the problem. It was an unfinished table. Trainer-c 20:39, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

*checks the page history* What are you talking about, Mattkin? Munchlax was above Bulbasaur and to the left of Squirtle. - Cassius335 10:55, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

after the changes were made for Bulbasaur's evolution to Venusaur, the image of Muchlax vanished from the list of Pokemon that May has. The data was still there when editing the page, but it was missing when viewing the page. Matkin22 15:25, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Skitty on hand?

The current revision has May's Skitty listed as being on hand. But that would mean that May's carrying seven Pokémon, right? I haven't seen the newest episode, so I don't know if Skitty appears, but it seems odd to me.--PikamasterADV 12:34, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

She uses all of them in the Wallace Cup at one point or another, so they're all listed there. Yeah, she probably rotated at some point, but if we tried to keep track of that, we'd go insane. - Cassius335 12:56, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Wait, I'm confused. So she has Blaziken, Glaceon, Munchlax, Beautifly, Venusaur, and Wartortle on hand? YinYang 17:07, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

And Skitty at some point. As I said, easier just to list everyone in the same section. - Cassius335 20:40, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

On her page, Wartortle, Munchlax and Skitty are in a separate box, but it doesn't say why. Also, on the thing at the bottom of the page that says her Pokémon, Skitty is at the Gym and the rest are with her. Im not sure how to fix it so I'll let you guys take care of it. Hatsumi 19:40, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

I put them in a seperate box because it was neater that way. As for the bottom of the page... - Cassius335 21:33, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Ah, I see what you mean now. Someone else will have to fix that. - Cassius335 21:36, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

May's Maturity/Increased Tomboyishness/Increased Confidence

Remember how, even as late as Eevee's hatching, most of the Pokemon she caught were cutesy, sort of like how Dawn is now? Ever since Combusken has evolved, her Pokemon have gained that tough attitude look (Venusaur and Wartortle, which could become Blastoise by her next reappearance arc, now included)? It has sort of gone along with the growth of her (emotional) maturity and confidence, you know what I mean?--KukiTalk 20:50, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Sigh, look, let me be frank here, her emotional maturity was still the same as it was when she started (otherwise, she wouldn't have cried because she lost the Kanto Grand Festival, she wouldn't have complained about Ash "copying" her Expedition team phrase, AND, more importantly, she wouldn't have had that fit in her actual return in DP77 (you know, the image of May being extremely angry and about to throw a temper tantrum). Not to mention, she would have developed a backbone and actually ATTEMPTED to save Manaphy in the 9th movie rather than just stand there like a coward.).

And, also, just because May has a Venusaur, Wartortle, and Blaziken on her team DOESN'T mean she's become more tomboyish. Look at Harley, his pokemon weren't exactly "cutesy" either, and he was one of the more girly characters in the series. Heck, Misty, who IS a tomboy, anyways, ALSO has somewhat girly pokemon on her team, and despite that, she was still VERY much a tomboy, so really, May is still very girly.

Weedle Mchairybug 22:00, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Given you clearly hate May, I'm not sure you're the best one to talk. Why are you bringing up the Kanto Grand Festival and Manaphy when neither have anything to do with how she's grown now? - Cassius335 10:41, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, you're right, I do hate her, for reasons I've already stated, but that's not the reason why I am doing this. I'm doing this because I'm not sure that she really did emotionally mature.

As for how The Kanto Grand Festival and Manaphy have anything to do with how she's grown now, simple. she shouldn't have cried just because she lost that competition. I mean, for goodness sakes, Drew didn't cry when He lost to May, and he has marginally more experience than her (All I know is that he had one more grand festival than her, if that Solidad competition flashback means anything.). Ash also didn't cry when he lost the Johto league, so why would she cry for losing a second time?

And as for the Manaphy movie, the mere fact that she was too afraid to even ATTEMPT to rescue Manaphy from Phantom's clutches in the climax proves that she really was no different than in the beginning of her journey.

And anyways, if she were emotionally mature now, she wouldn't have thrown that tantrum that we saw in the preview for her first ACTUAL appearance (her brief appearance in the ending of DP075 doesn't count.). You know the one that I'm talking about, it was common talk among pokemon fans.

Weedle Mchairybug 11:34, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

You miss my point: Kuki said "Ever since Combusken evolved" refferring to when it became Blaziken. There's no point bringing up your greviances from before then because they're outside what's being reffered to.

As for May's Daemon-from-hell impression, that wasn't a temper tantrum, that was a promise of imminent pain. - Cassius335 11:39, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Really? Well, my point still stands, anyways (with the "tough" pokemon, anyways.) Because, If the whole "she has non-cutesy pokemon, therefore she is a tomboy" belief is true, then by that same token, then Harley was really masculine just because his pokemon weren't "Cutesy" to fit his... Err... Quirks, and we all know that is far from the truth, because, even though he had "Non Cutesy" pokemon such as Cacturne, Banette, and Ariados, he was still extremely feminine for a guy.

Also, "promise of imminent pain"? she was demonic because there wasn't any food! That's not a promise of imminent pain, that's a temper tantrum. Promise of imminent pain is when a person does something that hurts the other and you want revenge (like making an actual insult towards you or kidnapping/murdering your friend). May's reaction was for something far more trivial than that, which is the case of a temper tantrum.

Weedle Mchairybug 13:18, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Harley's Pokémon were more creepy than anything else. As for May, her reaction didn't have any wild arm movements and she wasn't yelling, so it wasn't a temper tantrum. Besides, it's May; For her, food is Serious Business. - Cassius335 21:16, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Pokemon boxes

Gave up on arguing this last night because I was tired, but can someone please explain how...

→ Squirtle → Wartortle
Skitty	Munchlax

Is somehow neater than splitting them off into their own box, thus allowing...

→ Squirtle → Wartortle
Skitty	Munchlax

...Anyone? - Cassius335 09:36, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Its just for easy comprehension. If they're all in the same box, people assume they're all in the same place, in this case, with May. But the links at the bottom say Skitty's at home so that should be changed... Mooites 21:04, 26 May 2008 (UTC)Mooites

Manaphy (IMPORTANT)

We've discussed this and since May has Manaphy, Max has Jirachi, I think Ash should have Latias and Lucario! Any1 agree?--KukiTalk 12:36, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Ummm... that's nice and all, but.. couldn't you make this section in Ash Ketchum's talk page? - unsigned comment from Weedle McHairybug (talk • contribs)

May shouldn't have Swablu or Manaphy to begin with. --FabuVinny ^{|Talk Page|} 18:55, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Actually, I've seen the movie, and May should have Manaphy on her page (in a befriended section, that is).--Starlight the ampharos 17:42, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Don't put this here again.

• Recently, former director and storyboard artist of the Pokémon anime, Masamitsu Hidaka, admitted that the reason that May was introduced is similar in scope as to why Tracey was introduced. However, rather than being because of a fear of cries of racism, Hidaka implied that they switched the girls around to give older male fans "eye candy", as well as to use Ken Sugimori's designs for the newer game characters. His perceived sexist statement has been debated by fans since this revelation.

This statement is irrelevant to the article, because it is not specifically referring to the article's titular character. The same goes for the other girls. --PsychoRobo 04:28, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Just watch out. The guy who wrote this in is known to revert like hell if he feels it's worthy. He may reverted back. --☆ケンジガール 04:39, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

True. but nobody listens to him anyway, so... Glinn Mgraw 04:52, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

If we are to remove that from the article, then I guess we should remove the GS ball thing from Celebi's article, and we should also remove the Tracey thing from Brock's article. Really, if they were compatable to those articles, then this portion is compatable to this article. I mean, this deals with ALL the girls (as in, the eye candy things.). Weedle Mchairybug 12:50, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

The GS ball is very relevant to Celebi because it finally provides closure which everyone was dying to know about (or more likely, confirm). The Brock-Tracey thing is similar to the Jynx ordeal, which is a justifiable fear. This just adds nothing to the article and it is horribly worded as well. If we really have to put this back, the wording should be altered to be more factual and less opinionated. Besides, are you sure that your motives for adding this in the article are solely for factual analysis? You've shown that you cannot keep an objective point of view with your comments, so I doubt you should be the one making value judgments here. In fact, with your inability to keep your point of view out of the way, you shouldn't be editing this article at all! --PsychoRobo 15:17, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Actually, that part you showed was TTEchidna's edit on the article. My edit was this one:

• Recently, former director and storyboard artist of the Pokémon anime, Masamitsu Hidaka, admitted that the reason they created May (and why they switch around the girls) is solely for "Eye candy". These words started a huge controversy among the fanbase, some of them being deeply angered at this apparant "sexist remark" towards both genders. How, if anything, it will affect May or any of the other female protagonists in regards to returns remains to be seen. It should be noted, however that this was only stated by Hidaka and not by any other staff members.

Also, LESS opinionated? It wasn't opinionated. Look, take a good look on the forums and see what I mean! Many people were saying it's sexist, while others laughed it off! It is fact that it was debated. Besides, was it "opinionated" when people mentioned the Buizel controversy? no! otherwise, they wouldn't mention it. Heck, wiki's are opinionated, no matter what. It's virtually impossible to keep things non-opinionated/unbiased without destroying this wiki. Besides, you guys source fansites like Pokébeach, Serebiiforums, BMGf, Pokécommunity, and others, which ALSO reeks bias. Heck, even OFFICIAL sites reek a form of Bias. If you want to eliminate Bias from bulbapedia, why don't we just DESTROY Bulbapedia while we are at it. I'm sorry for that rant, but I don't appreciate it when people like you guys feel that I'm opinionated, when in all actuality, ALL of us are opinionated on here. Weedle Mchairybug 16:05, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Sheesh. Destroy the Wiki? Crikey, it's difficult to take someone who uses hyperbole so repeatedly seriously. My Internet life grew up on Wikipedia policies, which work fairly well. Wikipedia attempts to be fairly objective by implementing the Neutral Point of View and Reliable Sources policies. You see, the problem is not with people having an opinion. I personally am very opinionated, because I feel that attempting to stay centrist requires too much compromise, but I try to acknowledge that other people's opinions exist, unless said opinions are so utterly ridiculous that I just can't digest them. On a wiki, however, one has to focus on facts, and not let opinion sway one's editing. Also, one must cooperate with the other editors in consensus to achieve a neutral point of view. You seem to wish to just do your own thing rather than cooperate, and the problem is not with you being opinionated. It's the fact that you can't distinguish between your opinion and objective editing that is the problem.

Finally, Wikipedia has Notability guidelines. The sexism controversy arising from the statement is not notable and has nothing at all to do with the topic. Maybe it has relevance on the Masamitsu Hidaka page, but not here. We can't let Bulbapedia become more a fandom-pedia than about the actual franchise itself, ya know. --PsychoRobo 16:57, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Or you could make a page about sexism in pokemon......DCM 14:58, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

We can just add it to Pokémon controversy if the need arises. ^Moldy_Orange 15:56, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

May's Last Name

I didn't see this anywhere, so I thought I might suggest it. In the Pokemon Advanced episode Win, Lose, or Drew!, May was introduced in her first Pokemon contest as "May Yura" (Not sure of the spelling).

This is the link to the episode. It occurs around 11:45 on that video. Professor Munchlax 07:52, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

She clearly said "May, you're up!". Mystery solved. --☆ケンジガール 07:55, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

It's problably a mispronucing of "May you're up" cause they haven't revealed her last name.--☆CoolPikachu! 07:57, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I just realized that was what it was...Thanks! Professor Munchlax 17:42, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Protection

Why is this still protected? I realize the episodes have not aired in the US, but they have in Japan so all info is known.

----HoennMaster 04:23, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

new pic

does anyone else think this pic looks better than the one on her page now? Mooites 03:30, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

File:May2.JPG

new May pic?

The one on the page shows more of her body, which Wikipedia would rule more useful...I'd have to agree.--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 03:43, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Its great.Glitchym1Mglitch 22:53, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Original Japanese Name (before Haruka)

Well, I've recently got a tip-off from Team Rocket Headquarters that Haruka was originally going to be named Kimi. The link is here if you wish to know:

http://teamrocketheadquaterss.yuku.com/topic/1415/t/Misty-not-in-season-six.html

Anyone believe this is notable enough for the article? PsychoRobo 23:58, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Ancient posts by Archaic himself?! Gasp.

You sure that it's not just speculation that she was called Kimi? If she were Kimi, that'd mean that the game May was Kimi, too.

I'll need an actual official thing that displays her name as Kimi (キミ) though.

However the most ironic: "Serebii would be more of the spiritual successor to the BMGf than BMGfR." - Archaic.

How times have changed. TTEchidna 00:50, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Manaphy

Help, I made a mess when I tryed to put manaphy on may's page.- unsigned comment from Glitchym1 (talk • contribs)

May's last name

In the episode Hi Ho Silver Wind James reveals during the Team Rocket's motto that Norman's last name is "McCoy". Doesn't this mean that May's and Max's last name is "McCoy"? Portuguese Old Man 18:02, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Sure that isn't some random gibberish Team Rocket is saying during the motto? J-J-M 20:57, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Don't ask me! The lines are more or less this:

Are you normal for real? Yes! Prepare for trouble, little boy! And make it double, I'm the real McCoy!

I think this means that Norman's last name in McCoy, but it also may be just ramdom. Portuguese Old Man 21:07, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

No, that's... a saying. C'mon, guys. TTEchidna 21:11, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

1) The dub said it, which by no means makes it official.

2) As TTE said, it's an expression. May/Max/Norman's last name does not exist, and most likely will never. --PAK Man ^Talk 22:03, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Manaphy (Yet Again)

Could we include Manaphy as a befriended pokémon? --MiekL94 19:21, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Give us good reason and we can consider considering a consideration of it. At the moment you have given no evidence as to why it should be included. — THE TROM — 20:10, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

I was just throwing it out there. I'm quite indifferent. --MiekL94 20:19, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Well without reason nothing will get done. If you're serious, provide some cause. — THE TROM — 20:21, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Befriended Sections

First off, why do we even have befriended pokemon sections on almost EVERY main character's page. The only character who should have a befriended section is Max (He doesn't have any pokemon!!!). If we stop making those sections things would be a lot easier. Please correct me if I am wrong but i don't even think those sections are required. Sure we could mention them in the article but not make in the Pokemon section. (Also it is about time to archive this page) -- Landfish⁷ 20:12, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Actually, this page doesn't have one, and hasn't had one for a very long time. The only person who does is Max, for that very reason. I have no idea what you are talking about... — THE TROM — 21:39, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Maybe he confused the "Borrowed" section with the "Befriended" section. --ケンジのガール 23:25, 13 June 2009 (UTC)