Talk:Sync pair

New sync pairs include you getting a Charmander from an egg, Dawn and Turtwig, Wally and Gallade, Sygna Suit Leaf and Venusaur, and Sygna Suit Blue and Blastoise. It was teased in this video.

https://youtu.be/kN5qi87nTQc Chomper4 (talk) 14:47, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

Design Origin

Could we add an extra column to the table for in-game Sync Pairs detailing where their designs are from, much like we have in the unreleased/upcoming Sync Pair table? I think it's a really interesting piece of information, and if people agree with adding it, I wouldn't mind editing it myself. - BlackButterfree (talk) 00:13, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

Masters characters and Red

There is no confirmation about Masters originals characters to be released as sync pairs in future, even the official website put them separatly from the playable Sync Pairs, and since we have a Sygna Suit Red, mean they will release a regular Red, or the one we had would be called just Red.--Zarxiel94 (talk) 17:06, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Re-group same Sync Pairs in one with various infos, and reorganization

I made a new version of the Sync Pairs with evolution and Megas regruped in one space since they are actually just one Sync Pair.

Trainer	NDex	Pokémon		Move Type(s)		Weakness	Role	Passive Skill(s)	Base Potential	Availability
#Scottie & Bettie		025	#Pika	File:MastersIconPikachu.png	1♂	Electric	Electric	File:Masters Ground.png		data-sort-value="" |	Endurance
#Scottie & Bettie		255	#Torc	File:MastersIconTorchic.png	1♂	Fire	Fire	File:Masters Water.png		data-sort-value="" |	Haste
#Scottie & Bettie		791	#Solg	File:MastersIconSolgaleo.png	2	Steel	Fighting	File:Masters Ground.png		data-sort-value="" |	Impervious
#Scottie & Bettie		003	#Bulb	File:MastersIconBulbasaur → Ivysaur → Venusaur.png	1♂	Grass	Grass	File:Masters Fire.png		data-sort-value="" |	Power Reserves 2
#Scottie & Bettie		006	#Char	File:MastersIconCharmander → Charmeleon → Charizard.png	1♂	Fire	Fire	File:Masters Water.png		data-sort-value="" |	Power Reserves 2
#Scottie & Bettie		009	#Squi	File:MastersIconSquirtle → Wartortle → Blastoise.png	1♂	Water	Water	File:Masters Grass.png		data-sort-value="" |	Power Reserves 2
#Brock		095	#Onix	File:MastersIconOnix.png	1♂	Rock	Rock	File:Masters Grass.png		data-sort-value="" |	Stoic 2
#Brock		Sygna Suit 248	#Tyra	File:MastersIconTyranitar.png	1♂	Rock	Rock	File:Masters Fighting.png		data-sort-value="" |	Sand Fortress
#Misty		121	#Star	File:MastersIconStarmie.png	1	Water	Water	File:Masters Electric.png		data-sort-value="" |	Healing Hand 2
#Lt. Surge		101	#Volt	File:MastersIconVoltorb → Electrode.png	1	Electric	Electric	File:Masters Ground.png		data-sort-value="" |	Last Word
#Erika		045 f	#Vile	File:MastersIconVileplume.png	1♀	Grass	Grass	File:Masters Fire.png		data-sort-value="" |	Piercing Gaze
#Blaine		078	#Pony	File:MastersIconPonyta → Rapidash.png	1♂	Fire	Fire	File:Masters Rock.png		data-sort-value="" |	Hostile Environment 1
#Lorelei		131	#Lapr	File:MastersIconLapras.png	1♀	Ice	Ice	File:Masters Grass.png		data-sort-value="" |	Hostile Environment 1
#Bruno		068	#Mach	File:MastersIconMachamp.png	1♂	Fighting	Fighting	File:Masters Flying.png		data-sort-value="" |	Critical Strike 2
#Agatha		094	#Geng	File:MastersIconGengar.png	1♀ Mega Gengar	Ghost	Ghost	File:Masters Dark.png		data-sort-value="" |	Wide Awake
#Kris		160	#Toto	File:MastersIconTotodile → Croconaw → Feraligatr.png	2♀	Water	Normal	File:Masters Grass.png		data-sort-value="" |	Endurance Water Shift
#Bugsy		015	#Beed	File:MastersIconBeedrill.png	1♂ Mega Beedrill	Bug	Bug	File:Masters Rock.png		data-sort-value="" |	Critical Strike 2
#Whitney		241	#Milt	File:MastersIconMiltank.png	1♀	Normal	Normal	File:Masters Fighting.png		data-sort-value="" |	Mad Strength 2
#Pryce		087	#Seel	File:MastersIconSeel → Dewgong.png	1♂	Ice	Ice	File:Masters Electric.png		data-sort-value="" |	Superduper Effective 2
#Clair		230	#King	File:MastersIconKingdra.png	1♀	Dragon	Dragon	File:Masters Dragon.png		data-sort-value="" |	Racing Rain 2
#Janine		168	#Aria	File:MastersIconAriados.png	1♀	Poison	Poison	File:Masters Fire.png		data-sort-value="" |	Hostile Environment 1
#Will		178	#Xatu	File:MastersIconXatu.png	2♀	Psychic	Flying	File:Masters Electric.png		data-sort-value="" |	Impervious
#Karen		229 f	#Houn	File:MastersIconHoundoom.png	1♀ Mega Houndoom	Dark	Dark	File:Masters Fighting.png		data-sort-value="" |	Flameproof Wide Awake
#Brendan		252	#Tree	File:MastersIconTreecko → Grovyle → Sceptile.png	1♂	Grass	Grass	File:Masters Poison.png		data-sort-value="" |	Haste Lithe
#Roxanne		476	#Nose	File:MastersIconNosepass → Probopass.png	1♀	Rock	Rock	File:Masters Fighting.png		data-sort-value="" |	Surging Sand 5
#Brawly		297	#Maku	File:MastersIconMakuhita → Hariyama.png	1♂	Fighting	Fighting	File:Masters Flying.png		data-sort-value="" |	Power Reserves 2
#Flannery		324	#Tork	File:MastersIconTorkoal.png	1♀	Fire	Fire	File:Masters Water.png		data-sort-value="" |	Impervious
#Norman		289	#Slak	File:MastersIconSlaking.png	1♂	Normal	Normal	File:Masters Fighting.png		data-sort-value="" |	Power Reserves 2
#Winona		279	#Peli	File:MastersIconPelipper.png	1♀	Flying	Flying	File:Masters Electric.png		data-sort-value="" |	Racing Rain 2
#Tate		338	#Solr	File:MastersIconSolrock.png	2	Psychic	Rock	File:Masters Dark.png		data-sort-value="" |	Power Chain 3 Headstrong Unbending
#Liza		337	#Luna	File:MastersIconLunatone.png	1	Psychic	Psychic	File:Masters Bug.png		data-sort-value="" |	Power Chain 3 Dauntless Stalwart
#Phoebe		477	#Dusc	File:MastersIconDusclops → Dusknoir.png	2♀	Ghost	Normal	File:Masters Dark.png		data-sort-value="" |	Pass It On Vigilance
#Drake		373	#Sala	File:MastersIconSalamence.png	1♂	Dragon	Dragon	File:Masters Fairy.png		data-sort-value="" |	Terrify 1
#Noland		127	#Pins	File:MastersIconPinsir.png	1♂ Mega Pinsir	Bug	Bug	File:Masters Flying.png		data-sort-value="" |	Headstrong Unhindered (Mega Pinsir)
#Barry		395	#Pipl	File:MastersIconPiplup → Prinplup → Empoleon.png	1♂	Water	Water	File:Masters Grass.png		data-sort-value="" |	Power Flux 5
#Roark		409	#Cran	File:MastersIconCranidos → Rampardos.png	1♂	Rock	Rock	File:Masters Water.png		data-sort-value="" |	Headstrong
#Gardenia		407	#Rose	File:MastersIconRoserade.png	1♀	Grass	Grass	File:Masters Flying.png		data-sort-value="" |	Speeding Sun 2
#Maylene		307	#Medi	File:MastersIconMeditite → Medicham.png	1♀	Fighting	Fighting	File:Masters Fairy.png		data-sort-value="" |	On the Ropes 3
#Crasher Wake		419	#Floa	File:MastersIconFloatzel.png	1♂	Water	Water	File:Masters Grass.png		data-sort-value="" |	Racing Rain 2 Aggravation 1
#Candice		460	#Abom	File:MastersIconAbomasnow.png	1♀	Ice	Ice	File:Masters Fire.png		data-sort-value="" |	Antifreeze Snow Shelter
#Flint		392	#Infe	File:MastersIconInfernape.png	1♂	Fire	Fire	File:Masters Water.png		data-sort-value="" |	Power Reserves 2
#Thorton		437	#Bron	File:MastersIconBronzong.png	2	Steel	Psychic	File:Masters Fire.png		data-sort-value="" |	Aggravation 1
#Cheryl		242	#Blis	File:MastersIconBlissey.png	2♀	Normal	Fire	File:Masters Fighting.png		data-sort-value="" |	Healing Hand 2
#Marley		059	#Arca	File:MastersIconArcanine.png	1♂	Fire	Fire	File:Masters Ground.png		data-sort-value="" |	Haste
#Rosa		497	#Sniv	File:MastersIconSnivy → Servine → Serperior.png	1♀	Grass	Grass	File:Masters Flying.png		data-sort-value="" |	Stalwart
#Rosa		Holiday 2019 225	#Deli	File:MastersIconDelibird.png	1♀	Flying	Flying	File:Masters Steel.png		data-sort-value="" |	Wide Awake Show Shelter Healing Hail 1
#Clay		537	#Palp	File:MastersIconPalpitoad → Seismitoad.png	1♂	Ground	Ground	File:Masters Grass.png		data-sort-value="" |	Antitoxin
#Skyla		581	#Swan	File:MastersIconSwanna.png	1♀	Flying	Flying	File:Masters Rock.png		data-sort-value="" |	Haste
#Brycen		615	#Cryo	File:MastersIconCryogonal.png	2	Ice	Rock	File:Masters Fighting.png		data-sort-value="" |	Snow Shelter Healing Hail 1
#Iris		612	#Haxo	File:MastersIconHaxorus.png	1♀	Dragon	Dragon	File:Masters Ice.png		data-sort-value="" |	Power Reserves 2
#Roxie		545	#Whir	File:MastersIconWhirlipede → Scolipede.png	1♀	Poison	Poison	File:Masters Psychic.png		data-sort-value="" |	Fast-Track 2
#Marlon		565	#Carr	File:MastersIconCarracosta.png	2♂	Water	Rock	File:Masters Grass.png		data-sort-value="" |	Unbending
#Shauntal		609	#Chan	File:MastersIconChandelure.png	1♀	Ghost	Ghost	File:Masters Rock.png		data-sort-value="" |	Unhindered Power Reserves 2
#Marshal		534	#Conk	File:MastersIconConkeldurr.png	1♂	Fighting	Fighting	File:Masters Psychic.png		data-sort-value="" |	Gritty 5
#Grant		699	#Amau	File:MastersIconAmaura → Aurorus.png	1♂	Rock	Rock	File:Masters Steel.png		data-sort-value="" |	Snow Shelter Sand Shelter Aggravation 1
#Korrina		448	#Luca	File:MastersIconLucario.png	1♂ Mega Lucario	Fighting	Fighting	File:Masters Fire.png		data-sort-value="" |	Unflappable
#Ramos		071	#Weep	File:MastersIconWeepinbell → Victreebel.png	1♂	Grass	Grass	File:Masters Ice.png		data-sort-value="" |	Defense Crush 2
#Wulfric		713	#Aval	File:MastersIconAvalugg.png	1♂	Ice	Ice	File:Masters Fire.png		data-sort-value="" |	Clearheaded
#Siebold		693	#Claw	File:MastersIconClawitzer.png	2♂	Water	Fighting	File:Masters Electric.png		data-sort-value="" |	Critical Focus 1
#Siebold		Holiday 2019 224	#Octi	File:MastersIconOctillery.png	1♂	Water	Water	File:Masters Electric.png		data-sort-value="" |	Hostile Environment 1 Fortuitous 4 Piercing Gaze
#Wikstrom		681	#Aegi	File:MastersIconAegislash.png	1♂ Shield Forme & Blade Forme	Steel	Steel	File:Masters Fire.png		data-sort-value="" |	Stance Change Vigilance
#Hau		026A	#Raic	File:MastersIconRaichu.png	1♂ Alolan	Electric	Electric	File:Masters Ground.png		data-sort-value="" |	First Aid 4
#Sophocles		777	#Toge	File:MastersIconTogedemaru.png	1♀	Electric	Electric	File:Masters Ground.png		data-sort-value="" |	Endurance
#Mina		210	#Gran	File:MastersIconGranbull.png	1♂	Fairy	Fairy	File:Masters Steel.png		data-sort-value="" |	Impervious
#Olivia		745Mn	#Lyca	File:MastersIconLycanroc.png	1♂ Midnight Form	Rock	Rock	File:Masters Grass.png		data-sort-value="" |	Amped Up 1
#Hapu		750	#Muds	File:MastersIconMudsdale.png	1♂	Ground	Ground	File:Masters Grass.png		data-sort-value="" |	Clearheaded
#Kahili		733	#Touc	File:MastersIconToucannon.png	1♂	Flying	Flying	File:Masters Ice.png		data-sort-value="" |	Piercing Gaze
#Viola		284	#Surs	File:MastersIconSurskit → Masquerain.png	1♀	Bug	Bug	File:Masters Rock.png		data-sort-value="" |	Terrify 1
#Nanu		053A	#Pers	File:MastersIconPersian.png	1♀ Alolan	Dark	Dark	File:Masters Bug.png		data-sort-value="" |	Critical Sting 1
#Koga		169	#Crob	File:MastersIconCrobat.png	1♂	Poison	Poison	File:Masters Electric.png		data-sort-value="" |	Haste
#Acerola		770	#Palo	File:MastersIconPalossand.png	1♀	Ghost	Ghost	File:Masters Ice.png		data-sort-value="" |	Sand Fortress
#Cheren		508	#Stou	File:MastersIconStoutland.png	2♂	Normal	Dark	File:Masters Fighting.png		data-sort-value="" |	Outrun 4
#Blue		018	#Pidg	File:MastersIconPidgeot.png	1♂ Mega Pidgeot	Flying	Flying	File:Masters Rock.png		data-sort-value="" |	Acuity Haste
#Lyra		154	#Chik	File:MastersIconChikorita → Bayleef → Meganium.png	1♀	Grass	Grass	File:Masters Fire.png		data-sort-value="" |	Solar Shield
#Hilbert		503	#Osha	File:MastersIconOshawott → Dewott → Samurott.png	1♂	Water	Water	File:Masters Electric.png		data-sort-value="" |	Impervious
#Hilda		500	#Tepi	File:MastersIconTepig → Pignite → Emboar.png	1♀	Fire	Fire	File:Masters Water.png		data-sort-value="" |	Antitoxin First Aid 4
#Elesa		523	#Zebs	File:MastersIconZebstrika.png	1♀	Electric	Electric	File:Masters Ground.png		data-sort-value="" |	Fast-Track 2 Lithe
#Elesa		Sygna Suit 479	#Roto	File:MastersIconRotom.png	1	Electric	Electric	File:Masters Dark.png		data-sort-value="" |	Look Alive 9 Fast Runner
#Caitlin		579	#Reun	File:MastersIconReuniclus.png	1♀	Psychic	Psychic	File:Masters Ghost.png		data-sort-value="" |	Antitoxin Flameproof Escape Artist
#Calem		678	#Espu	File:MastersIconEspurr → Meowstic.png	1♂ Male	Psychic	Psychic	File:Masters Ghost.png		data-sort-value="" |	Acuity Aggravation 1
#Glacia		362	#Glal	File:MastersIconGlalie.png	1♂ Mega Glalie	Ice	Ice	File:Masters Steel.png		data-sort-value="" |	Snow Shelter Fortuitous Last Word (Mega Glalie) 4
#Grimsley		510	#Liep	File:MastersIconLiepard.png	1♀	Dark	Dark	File:Masters Bug.png		data-sort-value="" |	Lithe
#Giovanni		150	#Mewt	File:MastersIconMewtwo.png	2	Psychic	Ghost	File:Masters Dark.png		data-sort-value="" |	Power Reserves 2
#Ethan		157	#Cynd	File:MastersIconCyndaquil → Quilava → Thyplosion.png	1♂	Fire	Fire	File:Masters Rock.png		data-sort-value="" |	Speeding Sun 2
#Leaf		133	#Eeve	File:MastersIconEevee.png	2♂	Normal	Steel	File:Masters Fighting.png		data-sort-value="" |	Benefactor Impervious
#Lance		149	#Drag	File:MastersIconDragonite.png	2♂	Dragon	Normal	File:Masters Ice.png		data-sort-value="" |	Dragon Shift Lithe Unflappable
#Cynthia		445	#Garc	File:MastersIconGarchomp.png	1♀ Mega Garchomp	Ground	Ground	File:Masters Ice.png		data-sort-value="" |	Fast-Track 2 Surging Sand 5 Ground Shift (Mega Garchomp)
#Kukui		745	#Lyca	File:MastersIconLycanroc.png	1♂ Midday Form	Rock	Rock	File:Masters Water.png		data-sort-value="" |	Surging Sand 5 Unflappable
#Zinnia		384	#Rayq	File:MastersIconRayquaza.png	2	Dragon	Flying	File:Masters Rock.png		data-sort-value="" |	Weather Surge 3
#Steven		376	#Meta	File:MastersIconMetagross.png	1 Mega Metagross	Steel	Steel	File:Masters Ghost.png		data-sort-value="" |	Power Chain 3 Impervious
#Professor Oak		151	#MewM	File:MastersIconMew.png	2	Psychic	Normal	File:Masters Bug.png		data-sort-value="" |	Oak's Research Superduper Effective 1 Unfortuitous 9
#Valerie		700	#Sylv	File:MastersIconSylveon.png	1♂	Fairy	Fairy	File:Masters Poison.png		data-sort-value="" |	HP Advantage 4
#Red		Sygna Suit 006	#Char	File:MastersIconCharizard.png	1♂ Mega Charizard X	Fire	Fire	File:Masters Rock.png		data-sort-value="" |	Propulsion 1 Piercing Gaze Move Gauge Refresh 4
#Sabrina		065	#Alak	File:MastersIconAlakazam.png	1♂ Mega Alakazam	Psychic	Psychic	File:Masters Dark.png		data-sort-value="" |	Unflappable Speedy Entry 1 Dauntless
#Fantina		429	#Mism	File:MastersIconMismagius.png	1♀	Ghost	Ghost	File:Masters Dark.png		data-sort-value="" |	Backfire 2 Bulk Buster 4
#Guzma		768	#Goli	File:MastersIconGolisopod.png	1♂	Bug	Bug	File:Masters Electric.png		data-sort-value="" |	Danger Dodge 2
#Plumeria		758	#Sala	File:MastersIconSalazzle.png	1♀	Poison	Poison	File:Masters Water.png		data-sort-value="" |	Superduper Effective 2 Antitoxin Flameproof
#Clemont		695	#Heli	File:MastersIconHeliolisk.png	2♂	Electric	Ground	File:Masters Fighting.png		data-sort-value="" |	Piercing Gaze Charging Sun 5 HP Advantage 4
#Wallace		350	#Milo	File:MastersIconMilotic.png	2♀	Water	Psychic	File:Masters Electric.png		data-sort-value="" |	Stationary Target 5 Pokey Trap 5 Recuperation 2
#Silver		250	#Ho-O	File:MastersIconHo-Oh.png	2	Fire	Grass	File:Masters Water.png		data-sort-value="" |	Charging Sun 6 Speeding Sun 2 Solarize
#Wally		475	#Gall	File:MastersIconGallade.png	1♂ Mega Gallade	Fighting	Fighting	File:Masters Ghost.png		data-sort-value="" |	Posthaste 9 Zero In 1 (Mega Gallade) Fast-Truck 2 (Mega Gallade)
#Jasmine		208	#Stee	File:MastersIconSteelix.png	1♀ Mega Steelix	Steel	Steel	File:Masters Water.png		data-sort-value="" |	Endurance Last Word (Mega Steelix)
#Dawn		389	#Turt	File:MastersIconTurtwig → Grotle → Torterra.png	1♀	Grass	Grass	File:Masters Bug.png		data-sort-value="" |	Power Siphon 9 Vigilance

Unfortunately I cannot edit it, because it think is vandalism, can I ask someone to do this, and I wanted to propose a reorganization to follow the Sync Pairs story order (that follow the generations) instead of the release order.--Zarxiel94 (talk) 14:22, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Don't make smaller edits to make one large edit, especially to circumvent a filter. Largescale edits like these needs approval first, don't just make the edits. I don't have Masters, so I don't have an opinion on this. Once it gets approval from other staff members, then the change can be made.--ForceFire 17:02, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

I tried to contact somebody, but nobody answered me after a couple of days... I made this edits just because I thinked was the better for it, not for some "bad" intention--Zarxiel94 (talk) 18:14, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

I poked some people for you, general opinion seems to be NDex numbers should be changed to the in game Syn Pair Dex number, it's a good idea to merge Scottie/Bertie/Mega Evolutions, but special suits should be kept separate. We'd also like to incorporate the in game type icons as well if possible, what do you think? --Spriteit (talk) 01:34, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

Here's a draft update, I admittedly don't know the dex numbers. --Spriteit (talk) 03:16, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

I agree to leave the different skins separatly and add the icons. For the order, the number is actually the release order. I have all Sync Pairs, so I can show the order of each of them in the sync pairs stories.

Here the screenshots of all Sync pairs in the sync story order (sorry for the huge images, I don't know how to change the size):

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[2]

[3]

[4]

[5]

[6]

[7]

[8]

[9]

[10]

[11]

[12]

[13]

[14]

[15]

[16]

[17]

[18]

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--Zarxiel94 (talk) 16:37, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Order and icons

Perfect :D I love the new style. I will like to use the sync pairs story order (that I posted in the images here) and use the icons for the complete evolution instead of the base form, since is the "complete" version and where you unlock the "Sync move of the Sync pair"--Zarxiel94 (talk) 10:59, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

For this list, I'm not sure there is a compelling reason to prefer the sync pair story order over the Dex order. For other places, like the tables for moves, passive skills, etc., maybe, but not here. --Neumannz (talk) 20:34, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Well, I think is better aestetically since the order is based on generations and "classes", the dex order is based about the releases. Over time and for the new players of Masters, the sync story list order will be easier to find some character. For exemple. If someone want to find Glacia just need to go in the place where the 3th gen characters are placed, but if we place in the dex order, the reader need to remember when Glacia was released or seek her and check one by one since will not have any clue. With sync pairs order, the reader can slide down until he see the 3rd gen characters, and then he will understand he is near Glacia.--Zarxiel94 (talk) 21:09, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

I would like to point out that the Dex order is not strictly about releases, as Solgaleo is still up at #01; that since we are documenting the sync pairs here, we should use the same ordering as the Dex, not unlike how a list of all Pokémon on this site still goes by National Pokédex number and doesn't rearrange it so cross-generational families are grouped together (also, are you thinking of putting the player character at the bottom? they ARE the last released character, after all); and that not only is the list not terribly long, but Ctrl-F is still a thing, so no one should have THAT hard a time finding Glacia no matter what.

On the other hand, if it were possible to make the table sortable by generation I would totally be on board with that, but that would require an additional column to the table, an arguably unnecessary change. --Neumannz (talk) 01:32, 10 June 2020 (UTC)