Talk:Pokémon Dream World

Pokémon

Well, I don't have too much of a right to say anything, since I don't know of an official source, but doesn't this need to be updated with all the other Pokémon availiable?--Black Yin Zekrom 02:34, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

It is an online feature, and Game Freak can make whatever they want appear in the wild here. --SnorlaxMonster 10:32, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Trivia

Should it be noted that a scientist in Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald who is trying to develop a device that visually reproduced the dreams of Pokémon? It's Turtwig A! My talk or wiki edits 12:07, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

I think it should, and I kind of remember it. Where was it? Was he the guy in the Devon building in Rustboro? --SnorlaxMonster 06:20, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, he was one of them. I believe the one in the top center. It's Turtwig A! My talk or wiki edits 11:37, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Images

This page needs them. Weren't there some screenshots or something from magazines about this? --Andy^P_K^M_N 15:57, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Woucha' mind putting THESE on?

Swanna *

Purotoga *

Kojondo *

Landros *

Miruhog *

More to come.

* Means a Pokémon and those related to it having abilities in the Dream World.

^^ Means an ability commonly found in the Dream World.

Thanks.--444 Z ekrom 13:27, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

I added these to the list, but I haven't added their abilities. --Eskay 20:12, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Mewtwo and Other Legendaries

Alright, Mewtwo has a Dream World ability, so why isn't it listed in the Dream World? And what about other Legendaries like Groudon, Rayquaza, and the like? Is this list simply incomplete?--Black Yin Zekrom 04:09, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Yes, please read the {{incomplete}} template. That's what it says.--444 Z ekrom 04:17, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

I would like to thank everyone

For your effort put into this job. Thanks!--444 Z ekrom 10:04, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Especially to Akurochan and Chungkingpun.--444 Z ekrom 10:07, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Dream World insiders?

Now the Dream World is open to the public, shouldn't we start adding stuff we can do there? I already summarized the big picture on this Bulbanews article I wrote, but I'm not sure how to best add all of that to this article. I'll start adding more details once someone has some solution. --BlackySully 15:38, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Evolution

For Pokémon with different Dream World abilities than their evolutions, does their ability change upon evolving? For instance, would an Eevee with Anticipation evolve into a Vaporeon with Hydration? Or would the Vaporeon just have Water Absorb, like a normal in-game Vaporeon? --Andy^P_K^M_N 18:15, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Since this is still unanswered (a month later), I'll create a corollary to the question. It's been suggested that Daruma Mode Hihidaruma can't have evolved. But what ability does a Darumakka with Inner Focus (obtained via the Dream World) have upon evolution? --Andy^P_K^M_N 22:57, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Inner Focus Darumakka evolves into Daruma Mode Hihidaruma. Pokémon with Dream World abilities evolve into their Dream World forms. surskitty 14:55, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Pictures

Is there any chance to rip ALL Pokemon pictures from the Dream World website? This is the only way we could get decent artworks of Gen V Pokemon so early on. Also, they'll be useful even after the Sugimori Artwork is revealed (we can put them to the gallery, they are kind of like Dream World "sprites"). --Maxim 09:36, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Yes. Bluesun 20:59, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Separate

I suggest the abilities part be a separate page. This page needs to have info on the Dream World itself and not just the Pokémon's abilities it gives. Also, there are Pokémon the come with moves, not just abilities. ^tc²₆ tc₂₆ 08:52, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. I think we should also have a clear distinction between Dream World abilities and "natural" abilities. For example a "dream world only ability" tag, and having different tables in ability pages for pokemon that can have the ability naturally and those that only have it through the Dream World... I guess this is a good topic for the Main talk page, so I'll start a discussion there. --BlackySully 23:53, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

I say we keep it all as one page. The abilities get one section, the moves get another section. Dream World abilities are already separated like that. --SnorlaxMonster 12:22, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

That would mean a horribly long page full of tables and text all together. A mess. There are too much Pokémon. If they decide to expand this in a new game, it will get worse. ^tc²₆ tc₂₆ 11:15, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

I say one page for the Dream World describing the features, areas, etc., and one page, maybe two, for abilities and moves. I don't think we can fit everything on this page, especially because of how many things one can do in the Dream World (not limited to catching Pokémon). --Andy^P_K^M_N 14:08, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

That would be opposed to having several extra pages that are purely tables. We could have List of Pokémon by Dream World ability if this page gets long, but it seems fine for now. As for the moves, there aren't many so they can have a section here, no need for their own page. --SnorlaxMonster 01:33, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Pokémon available

Is it true that every Pokémon is available in the Dream World? I don't think the evolved forms are available.-Billy4b2004 12:13, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Every Pokémon can be available, it's all up to whoever manages the Dream World to put Pokémon in. There are no set Pokémon. --SnorlaxMonster 12:41, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Latter Two Methods Disabled

Players may make neighbors by meeting other players online, after adding Friend Codes, meeting on the GTS, or befriending someone as the Dream Tree. However, the latter two methods depend on options which are currently disabled. Players may go to their neighbors' islands and water their berries or trade items.

So, will the latter two methods ever be undisabled or are the disabled forever for unexplained reasons?- unsigned comment from Bellsprout (talk • contribs)

As of yet it's hard to tell. I doubt they would've coded them originally with the intention of disabling them (though Faraway Island and the Hall of Origin do spring to mind...), and the tutorials even mention them. Having grayed out buttons also seems odd, if they were going to remove them completely they should've removed the buttons too. It seems they were only disabled along with the introduction of the hour limit from the news releases and help topics, so I'd assume when the hour limit is removed(if ever...) they'll be re-enabled. Bluesun 14:02, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Limit of 50

Serebii talks about a limit wherein you can only receive 50 Pokémon from the Dream World ever. Others on the net say that that limit applies only to the number in the High Link forest (unless Serebii actually means the same thing, just bad wording). Can anyone here confirm what is true? ^tc²₆ tc₂₆ 06:37, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Hmm... I had assumed it wouldn't be a hard limit of 50 as that seems an odd arbitrary number. Looking at the text I have though now I'm even more confused... I thought there was more detail about it, but this is all I can find in the Dream World tutorial, and I can't find anything about it in the game. I'll keep looking though.

This is the Friend Board.

Photographs of the Pokemon that were met and wished to become a friend at the Dream Island, and those Pokemon whose wishes have been granted, appear on this Friend Board.

The Pokemon on the Friend Board will appear in the Hi Link's Forest Plaza.

The Pokemon that appear in the Forest Plaza will surely become your friends.

That's right! If there are more than 50 photographs on the Friend Board, you can't go to the Dream Island, so be careful!

Translation by me. Bluesun 16:55, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

The picture accompanying the second half of that help page displays the side of the friend board that shows Pokemon from Dream World waiting to be brought back to your game. I suspect it means that it can only store 50 Pokemon before you have to bring them back, but the other side (pokemon you have brought back) looks like it may only have room at the bottom between the arrows for 5 pages of Pokemon at 10 pictures per page, so I don't know. I've only brought back 25 anyway, so it'll be a while before I could say. --Emtu 18:51, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

America

Will this be accessible in America?--Darknesslover5000 03:40, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

I believe I saw the website listed on the American boxart. So yes. --ケンジの ガール 03:46, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Whew...that's a relief.--Darknesslover5000 06:03, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Dream locations

Are there set pokemon and Items that could randomly be found or is the pokemon and items appearing in a area totally random? And totally random means that say, moltres could appear in shining sea, or magikarp in the forest, etc. Catboy41 00:36, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Never mind, silly question. But shouldn't there be separate pages for the dream locations?Thanks, Catboy41 21:46, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

There should, but we haven't gotten around to it yet. --SnorlaxMonster 14:25, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Trainer tokens

I remember seeing the symbol used in the "fun zone" for trainer tokens somewhere in dream world related content I'm pretty sure I saw it on the GL site when it was up in jap and I was just blindly clicking anything to see if I could get a glimpse of what it would be like in English. is the currency use in the dream world the same currency? or is everything dream world related just shrouded in too much mystery and fog? —Mada-sama (Talk to me!)— 06:47, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

If I read the article properly I see that I am an idiot although I'm still pretty sure I saw that symbol, never mind —Mada-sama (Talk to me!)— 06:51, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Eeveelution

How do you transfer the Eeveelution from the online Pokemon.com game from there? i have no idea. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 17:10, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

You wait for the distribution to launch (in Japan that was two months after the minigame did), then go to Promotions and activate it there. Then, the next time you wake up a Pokémon, it'll come too. Bluesun 18:21, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

I got a message from the Pokemon website support the other day that said the eeveelutions will be available on May 5th. Legionaireb 06:21, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Dream World abilities and breeding with Ditto

Read:

Breeding mechanics:

Female Pokémon with Hidden Abilities can pass on the Hidden Ability to their offspring. Ditto count as male for this purpose.

However, I have seen other sources that say that Dream World abilities will not be inherited by the offspring at all if the father involved is Ditto. Can anyone else confirm this? Fenyx4 11:58, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

This doesn't count as verification, but I just tried breeding my Cloud Nine female Lickitung with a Ditto and none of the 20 eggs I hatched came out with Cloud Nine. Hezekiah957 23:39, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Couldn't find anything relevant on the talk page for breeding, but out of 16 eggs with a Ditto and a Nidoran Female with Hustle, none of them hatched to have Hustle. Not impossible, but improbable. I have also not had it occur for any of my other Pokemon with Dream World abilities, out of 60-ish eggs total. I'd say this warrants further checking, but I'm inclined to think that they do not pass on through Ditto. TheBeardedRobot 06:47, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Good Evening. Pokemon Black & Pokemon White Versions: The Official Unova Pokedex & Guide: Volume 2. Page 239 "Hidden Abilities can be inherited Two of the Pokémon you'll find in the game have Hidden Abilities: the Musharna that shows up in the Dreamyard every Friday after you finish the main story, and the Darmanitan that awakens from a statue with a RageCandyBar in the Desert Resort. If you leave a Musharna with the Hidden Ability Telepathy at the Pokémon Day Care, you may find an Egg of a Munna with the same Hidden Ability. If you leave a Darmanitan with the Hidden Ability Zen Mode, you may find an Egg of a Darumaka with the Hidden Ability Inner Focus." There is a fine-print at the bottom of the page. "If the male Pokémon has a Hidden Ability, or if you leave a Pokémon with a Ditto, the Hidden Ability won't be passed on."

Just helping to confirm this with an official source/reference before more rumors spread. PKMN Soldier Berlioz 03:59, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Manipulation?

can someone find out if you can manipulate game sync by changing the time? i don't think you can. Pokemoninfo 20:32, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

No, unfortunetely not. Pikiwyn ^talk 18:28, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Shiny Pokémon

Is it possible to catch a shiny Pokémon from the dream world? --☆FiMbUlWiNtEr2O|2☆ 18:19, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Pile ice cream!

Possible to have a list of what berries generate what ice cream in terms of scoop and stickiness? Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 15:17, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

I made one back in October, and gave it to Serebii.

Here it is, and here's the news page mentioning it was my data. I don't seem to have the original text files anymore but there you go. By the way there's also a scoop of ice cream with six stars in each stat (lol) but that never gets used. Bluesun 17:00, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

o_O Oh this should be fun. *gets to work~* Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 17:11, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Genders

Has anyone else noticed that there are more male Pokémon than female. I've had about 4 females out of 20 Pokémon. Pikiwyn ^talk 19:36, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Interesting. Which Pokémon turned out male, and which turned out female? It could just be gender ratios at play, and the ones you caught were more likely to be male anyway. --Andy^P_K^M_N (talk) 00:15, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Its been in Pleasant Forest with under 7500 Dream Points and as far as I know most have a 50/50 ratio (except Nidoran). I also checked the last 42 I found, 9 out of 42 were female so it looks like about a 25% chance to be female. Pikiwyn ^talk 01:20, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

It depends on how you do in the games. ^tc²₆ tc₂₆ 02:18, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

No, it doesn't. When you enter the Island of Dreams, a list of Pokemon with predefined genders is sent to your computer. For some Pokemon you can even tell which gender they are by which minigame they want to play(!). Bluesun 15:18, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

I as well have noticed the severe lack of female Pokémon being generated in the Dream World. After building up 50, I had only 10 females. Since only female Pokémon with Hidden Abilities may be used to breed the Hidden Ability, this would seem intentional so as to reduce the possibility of some individual getting a female to breed and trade the Hidden Ability over the Global network. I wouldn't be surprised if they also put a deadlock on the offspring of a Pokémon with a Hidden Ability being female. Seems reasonable to me. Hidden Abilities are supposed to be special to have. If you could just breed it, it wouldn't be valuable anymore. PKMN Soldier Berlioz 04:04, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Loblolly

Does she have a Japanese name, or was she unnamed? Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 20:19, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

She does have a Japanese name. Bluesun 15:18, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

o.o Do we know what it is? Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 15:34, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

シタン. Up to you how to romanise it, I'd go with Shitan but I believe I read somewhere here someone found an etymological name link with シ being 'Ci'. Loblobby seems a dumb name though imo, makes me think of 'lol Blobby.' Bluesun 19:31, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Well a loblolly is a tree. I suppose the name sounds like something a person could dream up. ...So's Shitan, too. Red sandalwood tree. Nice. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 20:07, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

The image showing a Dream World Pokémon

Why does it show a Lickitung in the article but when I click on the image it shows a Doduo? Pikiwyn ^talk 01:12, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

This image:

A male Doduo with Tangled Feet, its Hidden Ability

I see a female Lickitung. Pikiwyn ^talk 01:14, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Server Errors. Wait for it to fully change Ataro 01:16, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Dream Points

How exactly do you earn Dream Points, and where can you see how many you've collected? Cmlobue 01:45, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

GL profile. Earned through games, watering plants, making a wish at the three and others. ^tc²₆ tc₂₆ 02:18, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

The table of actions and how many Dream Points they award was taken from Serebii, correct? Has anyone actually confirmed these values? I ask because when you check your Dream Points in your profile, it never seems to end in single digits, so I wonder if the "1 point" per Item Swap is accurate or not. I believe someone else brought this up on the forum as well, so I thought I'd make a note of it here. If no one's confirmed these values personally, I can try to check my profile after performing certain actions to see if I can pinpoint if these values are correct. Ndoto 14:56, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Just as an update, I've definitely confirmed the Dream Points chart to be incorrect. I'm still collecting some data for some of the values I'm less sure of, but once I've finalized my findings, I'll update the chart in the article to reflect them. Ndoto 16:30, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Pals

The article says that you can only visit Pals' houses, and that the house generated in the bottom right corner of the Dream Pal map is the player's Game Pal. However, I only have two Game Pals, and I have never seen either of them in that slot, and the only people I ever see there are randoms. Also, I can visit the houses of the random people who visit my house. In fact, Game Pals have no affect on the Dream World at all; Game Pals belong on the Pokémon Global Link page. --SnorlaxMonster 11:00, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, a bit of an assumption on my part since I have to many people on my Pal Pad to remember everyone. Also, I forgot about the mat. Just fix it :D ^tc²₆ tc₂₆ 11:02, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Used to be that Game Pals did turn up in the bottom right slot, when they showed up in every slot in the old Japanese-only version, but yeah now it seems you can't visit Game Pals at all (unless they're also Dream Pals, I've heard). Bluesun 15:16, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Question

"Upon entering the Island of Dreams a certain number of times, players will start to find nothing on the island" is that until the next visit or forever? Pikiwyn ^talk 14:23, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Until the next visit. Players can perform about 4-5 runs through the Island of Dreams before they can no longer encounter Pokémon or items, and then upon the next Game Sync, they can start fresh. Ndoto 14:51, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Breeding Mechanics

Regarding the Breeding Mechanics section, it mentions passing on the Hidden Ability of a female Dream World Pokémon, but makes no mention of male Pokémon and the Dream World-only moves. Can these be passed on via breeding at all, or are they exclusive only to Pokémon that are actually found in the Dream World? Either way, should a note of that be made in the article? Ndoto 15:00, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

If they're egg moves, yes, they can. ^tc²₆ tc₂₆ 23:30, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Find the missing <Pokémon>!

The game we're calling "Find the missing <Pokémon>!" is called "Pokémon Seek" when you fail. Should we change the section header? --SnorlaxMonster 10:18, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

In fact, "Let's play with a Flying Pokémon!" is named "Sky Race" when the Pokémon request that you play it. --SnorlaxMonster 10:31, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

They all have shorter snappier names, I noticed them looking through the .xml files, but since they weren't shown anywhere near as prominent as the current titles I didn't add them. I'll go check what they were. Bluesun 18:51, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Here they are:

 <string id="y_ag_1">I'm sorry you didn't succeed at Ice Cream Scoop.</string> 
 <string id="y_ag_3">I'm sorry you didn't complete the Sky Race.</string> 
 <string id="y_ag_5">I'm sorry you didn't succeed at Pokémon Seek.</string> 
 <string id="y_ag_7">I'm sorry you didn't succeed at Wailord's Water Spout.</string>

Also, I have access to the Dream World text in all seven languages, so if you want any worldwide names of anything, just let me know what on my talkpage. One notable exception however is Décor. Bluesun 19:11, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

I think that we should use those names, as they seem to be the actual names of the games, whereas the ones we are currently using are just sentences. --SnorlaxMonster 01:02, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Score

Is it yet known whether the Score for your Mini-game completions go to anything? Like a score board, high scores, something? It currently feels too shallow to bother putting a score to your performance. Just need to hit the Target Line then stop is really it...- unsigned comment from PKMN Soldier Berlioz (talk • contribs)

Well I know for a fact it goes towards your Dream Points. As for a high score board, I don't know. ^★Jo the Marten^★ ಠ_ಠ ♥ 04:48, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure it affects the moves of your Pokémon. If you perform poorly, it only has common moves; if you perform well, it has the more common special move; if you perform very well, it has the rarer special move. --SnorlaxMonster 08:04, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

I wish there were a better way to test this. My first few days, I did pretty horribly in all of the mini-games (just barely passing the target but with low scores) and I still got Pokémon that knew their special moves. Conversely, I've done really well in some minigames (>60,000 points) and only ever seemed to manage to get Pokémon with their regular moves. I have a feeling the "scoring better gives better odds of special moves" thing is more rumor than fact, but other than gathering a large data pool of resulting Pokémon from really good scores versus really bad scores, I'm not really sure how to prove it. (And even then, it would depend on whether the amount of Pokémon with special moves after obtaining high scores is actually statistically significant enough to determine the scoring to be the cause...) Ndoto 14:13, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

I'm as certain as I can be that the score affects whether the pokemon gets a heart icon after the game. Whether the heart icon is directly connected to special moves is a different issue, and I don't even remember which moves to be looking for. PLA 16:34, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Pokémon to the Mini-game

I've obtained enough data to believe without a shadow of a doubt that every Pokémon has its own mini-game assigned to it. ex. Lickitung is always doing a Pokémon Search. I'll begin adding them as I see them. PKMN Soldier Berlioz 04:30, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Doesn't gender also play a role? I recall hearing that you can (sometimes? always?) determine the gender of a Pokémon by the ganme you're asked to play. Bikini Miltank 04:43, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

I've gotten the same Pokémon to do all sorts of different games. I don't keep track of it though. But I'll keep an eye out. ^★Jo the Marten^★ ಠ_ಠ ♥ 04:48, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Right. Here's a list of the main forest ones I made back from the Japanese Dream World.

Key: Game: Pokemon which want this gameGen/der.

Serve: 161M/F, 174M/F, 83M/F, 403M/F, 270F, 399M/F.

Search: 191M/F, 187M/(and probably F), 77M/(and probably F), 179M/F, 108M/F, 115F.

Bounce: 43M/F, 69M/F, 114M/F, 276M/F, 270M, 283M/F.

Fly: 84M/F, 32M/29F, 234M/F, 261M/F, 19M/F, 102M/F.

I haven't investigated any of the other areas in the same depth though, and don't know if it has changed for the international site.- unsigned comment from bluesun (talk • contribs)