Talk:Pokémon Platinum Version/Archive 1

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November 2007: Beckett rumour

Here's my source: [1]. Shiny^?! 21:50, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

but right now we can consider it a "rumor" until Nintendo or another source reveals new information. That's what your source says about this. --Shiningpikablu252 21:56, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm really wary of this. If there is a so-called Platinum, it wouldn't be a GS remake; did the RB remake come as one game? No, it was two. It wouldn't make sense, either, as DPv3, due to its name. I also tried to visit [www.pokemonplatinum.com Pokemonplatinum.com], no site. [www.pokemonamethyst.com Pokemonamethyst.com], however... that redirects to Nintendo...

Best possible course of action: someone contacts Beckett and asks where the hell they got the information. TTEchidna^G_SDS! 01:08, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

That's wierd that it redirects to Nintendo site! --Theryguy 5 1 2 15:23, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

It's not unusual. Nintendo often reserve possible game names, many of which are not used. If they haven't done so for Platinum, that would be more telling. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 15:34, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Sounds like a job for Gamespot's Rumor Control...--Shiningpikablu252 02:48, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Interesting.......But a new Ranger DS! That's cool! But that is good proof for Platinum Version....--Theryguy 5 1 2 15:21, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Deleted for now: While a third game to DP is inevitable, "Platinum" is still only in rumour territory right now. As WPM pointed out, Beckett aren't that reliable for new game news. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 15:28, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Besides, if we were to keep this page, we'd also need a Ranger 2 page based on the same reports. --Shiningpikablu252 15:30, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

This game is confirmed. http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/platinum/ the name makes sense. in japan the kanji says "Platina" ans who does that remind us of? Giratina Arutoa 13:04, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Hey guys! I was just emailing nintendo about the GTS clogging up with impossible requests, and descided to confim this. This was their reply.

CLICKY!!

I put extra line breaks to make it fit. Yugiohguy1 18:17, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

He talks like they're not going to localize it, but yeah, they are. Unless NOA hates money, or something.--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 19:21, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

May 2008: Corocoro announcement

Corocoro Comic's image [[2]] - unsigned comment from FPU (talk • contribs)

sighs* The scan looks...Real. Very real. But it still could be fake |: I think everyone should just WAIT until CoroCoro is released, then make new articles + add new info. Takoto タコト 14:59, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Version?

Should this be titled "Pokémon Platinum Version," like all the rest? --ニョロトノ 666 20:38, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

I hit that when I edited the Template:Main series. But the Pokémon Platinum Version was protected from being created by TTE•Poke maniac102 20:39, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Delete this, this is Speculation, can somone put the Delete Tag, I want OFFICAL Proof, a Corocoro scan isn't Offical proof.--Quick Man 20:51, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

You're acting just like TTE. But he would blow his head off. We have scans of the whole magazine. but I want official proof too•Poke maniac102 20:58, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

The new Famitsu magazine came out as well with a Pokemon Platinum article. Same information. And now don't tell me someone is crazy enough to create fake scans for each magazine. [3] Goldchaos 21:24, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

There's someone crazy enough to create fake scans for each magazine. There, I told you•Poke maniac102 21:47, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

I have finally found someone with the same sense of humour as myself! OrigamiGuy-Talk-Contribs 18:13, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

I have to agree; until there is actual confirmation of anything from official sources, there shouldn't be a full page, perhaps just a discussion page, but no article. I've also seen this called Opal version, and there was a shiny photoshoped image to go with that one too! Remove this until there is proof, now. NonaSuomi 00:40, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Yea but that was merely a photoshopped image. But this was complex frames from two unrelated magazines. TTEchidna also said that since it is on Famitsu, that it's likely official•Poke maniac102 00:49, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Now it's official >_> --Mycroft 12:27, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Irony

This page was up for deletion 2 weeks ago now we all can't wait for more info to be added to it --lord mada 15:13, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Two weeks ago it wasn't confirmed. Now it's official. --FabuVinny ^{|Talk Page|} 15:19, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Origin form

so its got giratina in 'origin' and 'another' forms, but only 'another' appeared in d/p. i guess this means that platinum will have to send a data patch when trading an origin form from platinum to d/p. right? OrigamiGuy-Talk-Contribs 15:24, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Probably. I mean, i'm pretty sure the "Origin" form sprite isn't programmed into D/P. So yeah... :\ Takoto タコト| サソデイ = 愛 15:39, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

i guess this means a new version of pokesav will be in order, to comply with the differing forms of giratina. OrigamiGuy-Talk-Contribs 15:46, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Or just pull off a Deoxys and just revert back when it gets traded to DP. Tina^☆♫ 15:50, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

that would annoy people though wouldnt it? i mean the deoxys sprites were all coded in, and trades have been used to transfer data patches before, how hard can it be to add 2 sprites, the relevant animation data and modify the pokedex to accommodate a new form? OrigamiGuy-Talk-Contribs

Wait, what trade has transfered data patches before? I'm curious. Tina^☆♫ 15:56, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Deoxys (MathijsP 16:06, 15 May 2008 (UTC))

The Berry Glitch was a data-patch trade, so to speak. I seemed to remember that in gen 3 there was a patch that was transferred by trading, i may have made a mistake. But surely when D/P connects to Platinum, Platinum will detect the following:

whether its connected to D/P or PL (platinum shortening)
if its D/P, whether said D/P has the patch or not

and then send or not send the patch accordingly. OrigamiGuy-Talk-Contribs 16:15, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

If You can get Origin form in D/P you might be able to get it over wifi whenthis game is released. User:Darkmaster0

Hey everyone, ain't it obvious? Giratina will ONLY be available as Origine Form in Platinum and when traded back to D/P its stats will be recalculated and its sprite will change to Another Form, much like Deoxys in previous games. Also there ARE patches transfered through trades, or have you forgotten already? what about the national dex in R/S? it is unobtainble until you trade with FR/LG or Emerald that has it already. hfc 2X 19:37, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

yes. but only fire red or leaf green, not emerald Pikachu25 17:22, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

No, Emerald too. But I think it has to be a non-Hoenn 'Dex Pokemon.--Nostalgia 14:35, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

nopes, after you get the national dex in emerald, any trade you do with R/S will give you the national dex in that game. hfc 2X 23:34, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

No ,your forgeting that Giratina only changes into origin forme when its in the Torn World and since theres no Torn World in DP Giratina will only be in another forme. From user:ultamatecharizard.

The new Platinum Orb can keep it in Origin Forme outside the Torn World. Connecting the game to WiFi or to D/P, etc. disables the Orb and reverts Giratina back to its Another Forme. ~$aturn¥oshi ^{THE VOICES} 18:29, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

and another thing

(link) - should this be mentioned? it says that regigigas and shaymin get new forms, volkner is no longer on the sunyshore gym, and the underground will go wi-fi. opinions? OrigamiGuy-Talk-Contribs 17:47, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

We should stick to the information in the magazines and on the website. --FabuVinny ^{|Talk Page|} 18:18, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Clothes

Well, it isn't confirmed, that there will be a new main outfit. Many players think that the blue jacket is only for the snow areas off Sinnoh (Snowpoint, R217, R218, Mt. Coronet) --Furanty 19:29, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, certain areas or not, it's a new outfit. Porygon-Z 19:39, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

We're still jumping to far too many conclusions here. --FabuVinny ^{|Talk Page|} 19:41, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

This is just my guess but I think Lucas's(If he gets a bew look) new look is going to be something like this to comparison to this --CoolPikachu! 01:02, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

A word of notice

I know everyone is excited about this new game and only wonder what will be new. HOWEVER this talk page is not the place to do it. please take any "Oh I hope this is in Platinum...." or anything discussion like that to this thread on the forums. There is a difference between discussion to help the article and discussion about the game. Thanks! -Sketchies 20:23, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

LISTEN TO SKETCHIES DAMMIT. Talk pages are purely for the article, NOT FOR BLOODY SPECULATION! Glinn Mgraw 11:08, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Battle screenshot

I don't think the battle screen is actually updated. Looking at it, it seems to me like the HP bar and stuff are still sliding into space. Lucas doesn't have any Poké Balls by his head yet, and the background's still doing something weird, so I think it's still transitioning into the battle. --Martonimos_((Talk)) 06:12, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes, but the text doesn't appear until after the battle screen has finished transitioning, so maybe the 'pokeball bar' doesn't appear, or doesn't appear in wild battles. OrigamiGuy-Talk-Contribs 10:02, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Or it's still beta. TTEchidna 11:20, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Hang on a moment, let me steal my brother's Pearl. ...OK, yeah, that was me failing. I haven't played a game since Sapphire, and that was only until I got all the Pokémon I needed to trade him, so I'm not familiar with how the new games work. Apologies. --Martonimos_((Talk)) 20:45, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

'Forme?'

What's with the extra e on Giratina's Origin Form? Who's spelling it like that? Has it even been officially translated into English yet?--Amp 19:17, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

It's a conspiracy by the Church of E. - Cassius335 19:38, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

TTEchidna explains it all here. --Martonimos_((Talk)) 20:45, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Check Deoxys on the official American Pokedex: http://www.pokemon.com/Pokedex/flash.asp --FabuVinny ^{|Talk Page|} 01:38, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

I suspect sabotage, myself. - Cassius335 10:08, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Locations and Pokedex entries on pokemon pages

Is it really needed now? Because I dont like the part under Pearl in locations that says "Platinum:Unknown"Krakash 13:07, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes it is. Information pops up sooner than you think! TTEchidna 00:43, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

No it isn't. There is no point having the templates set up until we actually have the information. --FabuVinny ^{|Talk Page|} 15:15, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Trivia section

Gamefreak had obviously planned for Giratina to be the mascot with the sharing of syllables (giratina and platina), so I think it's a fact that the platinum on Giratina is the skin.--Shinin 13:53, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

And with the gir possibly coming from girare which can mean wander, it would basically be wandering platinum, which is what Giratina basically is.•P M 102 01:01, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Colour to Version

Ho-Oh's primary colour is red when looking at at, so the Trivia point isn't exactly valid as it stands. Gywall 15:39, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Your point is valid, but there was already a Pokemon Red... Also Lugia isn't really silver, it is white, but that makes no sense. hfc 2X 02:27, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Protection request

A lot of people have making changes and undoing changes. I say we protect it for a while. --☆ケンジガール 20:39, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Just because it gets changed doesn't mean it should be protected. Porygon-Z 20:41, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

But there are edit wars going on. That's why it should be protected. --☆ケンジガール 20:45, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

There is no Edit war, just a bunch of reverts and suchC is for Cookie 20:46, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

By going through the history I see just 1 small war. Porygon-Z 20:47, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

But it's a minor one and there is no need for protection. There isn't one now. is there?•Poke maniac102 20:56, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Okay fine. --☆ケンジガール 21:11, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Escher?

Where'd the Escher comment from? Admittedly, I haven't seen this shot. But even so, it seems awfully POV. Midnight Celtic 18:34, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Serebii.com has a screenshot[4]. I guess the Torn World invokes the feelings of Escher's "Crazy Stairs" painting. ~$aturn¥oshi ^{THE VOICES} 18:54, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Meh, I saw it, but I don't see Escher. But a question arises. How in the world do you get around in platforms like that? Midnight Celtic 18:34, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

My best guess would be some type of tile. Like a Warp Tile. ~$aturn¥oshi ^{THE VOICES} 18:39, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

I think the vine things help. and i think the screenshot needs to be rotated 90 degrees anticlockwise, judging by the way round lucas is standing. Origami Guy-_T-C-M 18:40, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Please do not go off topic. the article is the only thing that should be discussed here. Thanks. -Sketchies 18:43, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

New Designs

I found this.Is this how they are going to look like?--CoolPikachu! 01:33, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes.--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 03:27, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

I was going to remove this; but then I realized this does have merit to the article. -Sketchies 03:36, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Dawn already has a Platinum picture on her page. We need to make a picture of Lucas...better than this one though, the outline is all messed up. Pearl too. Although his design barely changed, so a simple description would suffice for a longer time...--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 03:39, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Other Trainer sprites changing

Do we actually know that other Trainer sprites will change to accommodate for the cold?--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 04:04, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

I don't think so. There's not even any evidence that it will be colder; just the people wearing seeming winter clothes. --Martonimos_{((Argh|Blargh))} 04:36, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Everyone's actually reporting Sinnoh's climate has changed; that much seems to hold true. Everybody else's sprites, I dunno.--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 05:37, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Serebii hasn't always been the best source in the past. I'll let it go for now, though. --Martonimos_{((Argh|Blargh))} 07:36, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

In one screen with the two new characters there is snow on the ground in Eterna city, the climate looks like it's changing. -Alec2792 16:40, 13 June 2008 (EST)

Box art?

Where did the box art come from?Emperor's Cookies 14:06, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

CoroCoro appearantly. ~$aturn¥oshi ^{THE VOICES} 14:12, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

I',m getting more and more interested.Emperor's Cookies 14:16, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Looks like it was added by Sailor Earth. ~$aturn¥oshi ^{THE VOICES} 14:34, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Can someone add this[5] higher res picture for the boxart. -Alec2792 16:32, 13 June 2008 (EST)

I can see that the spikes coming out of Giratina origin forme streamers are translucent--Nobody777 12:37, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Like, can you people please stop posting spam (Goddamit, I wish I had the power to remove these messages). So what if they're translucent??? It's the Θρtιmαtum♏_Talk|Links13:28 28 Jun 2008

It was just an observation. Don't have a Miltank. Sheesh... ~$aturn¥oshi ^{THE VOICES} 16:29, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

"Allowed to," Optimus? Does Bulbapedia have rules against normal users erasing spam? (Anyone can on Wikipedia...not saying anything.)--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 21:41, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

-sweatdrop- Was in a bad mood yesterday after Word crashed and I couldn't do my homework. Fine, fine, I won't do it again. And no, I don't have a Miltank. Never played GS except for ShinyGold. It's the Θρtιmαtum♏_Talk|Links00:51 29 Jun 2008

Proven?

When transfered from Diamond and Pearl, Shaymin automatically changes into Sky Forme.

Can this be proven? I don't know if this was said directly in the Japanese mag, if it was then please excuse this. If not it should be removed.GJ 18:52, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

It's in the Famitsu scan. -Sketchies 18:58, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

OK, now PsychicRider removed it. Has it been disproved? --Martonimos_{((Argh|Blargh))} 20:14, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes, go to Serebii.net's front page. A key item is needed to swich forms. Blazevoir 21:45, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Won't trust Sere if I were you. It's the Θρtιmαtum♏_Talk|Links23:39 5 Jul 2008

Well, I actually saw a post on the forums that included scans of a magazine page detailing the process. I have no idea whether or not it says what they say it says, since I don't read Japanese, but until someone can dispute it...

Anyway, I'll add something about the key item. --Martonimos_{((Argh|Blargh))} 03:40, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Pictures

Should pictures of the Regis in the game be added?--CoolPikachu! 19:20, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Or the Platinum art of the 3 starters?--CoolPikachu! 19:21, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

New Charactors?

The new charactor looks like both Maylene and Pearl. Does anyone else notice this? I think it could be a relationship because the Tower Tycoon is related to pearl so this could be his Grandfather.User:Rucario64 02:30, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

...Does this have anything to do with editing the article? Sketchies...-rings bell- It's the Θρtιmαtum♏_Talk|Links02:37 29 Jun 2008

This statemant was deleted before... ~$aturn¥oshi ^{THE VOICES} 03:56, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Pics

I found some pics of changes in Platinum --CoolPikachu! 20:43, 29 June 2008 (UTC) Cycle Road in Platinum Veilstone City Team Galatic HQ(Platinum) Cantalave City Libary(Platinum) Eterna City Team Galactic HQ(Platinum) (Registeel Cave) (Regice Cave)

Wow. Did you find any pics of Regirock Cave? If the other two are available, Regirock should be too. Could you also provide a link to where these pics were found? Yugiohguy1 18:17, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

I've got some new pics,

Sinnoh, revised A close-up of the anomaly

The new Pokétch

And I've found a translation of the Japanese Pokémon Platinum site- Here's the story:

Pokémon Diamond centered around Dialga, the ruler of time; Pearl centered around Palkia, the ruler of space. In this installment, Giratina is the star. A mysterious portal has opened atop Sinnoh’s Mt. Coronet, serving as the entrance to the Ruined World, an alternate dimension warping time and space. A story of “epic proportions” unfolds with Sinnoh in center stage!

And this:

The boy and girl trainers have gotten new outfits in response to Sinnoh’s colder weather, caused by the disturbance. They are sporting new Pokétchs, too. The rival will help out the protagonists as well in this installment.

Another pic of the protagonists.

MooTwo 09:55, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Pluto?

Where did the info about the new character being named Pluto come from? ~R R~ 01:43, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

I did. I found the information here. It was on the second page right underneath a picture of him. Blazevoir 03:21, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

There's nothing there to actually prove his name is Pluto. The Japanese caption just says that they're new characters.--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 03:24, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Sorry. If you want to change it back, go ahead. Blazevoir 03:28, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

It's not your fault. I blame them for making up stupid crap.--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 03:33, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Do you want to get rid of the link also? Some of the stuff there is true, like Regigigas' moveset for the movie. Plus, it's the one of the only sites that has information about Platinum in English. Blazevoir 15:25, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Well if we can verify their information I don't really see a problem...but we should definitely keep an eye out.--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 18:07, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Trivia

This is getting ridiculous. DPP? So what if it's the first gen to get two of the same letter? Does it matter? RBFRLGE. Gen III. It's the Θρtιmαtum♏_Talk|Links15:02 5 Jul 2008

RS! But FR is one, it should be RSFLE in my opinion--Kuki Talk 15:05, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, FR counts as one, LG counts as one. But remember, it's not Firered, it's FireRed. TTEchidna 17:15, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Does Germany not count? Emerald and Sapphire both start with S in the German language. -- SeriousDom 00:28, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

It does not count cuz Bulbapedia is English--Kuki Talk 00:31, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

It counts. jast becoz babapeedia is eengleesh dus nut min thut guhman theengs r nut cunted. Seriously, stop using short form. Anyway, it goes in. It's the Θρtιmαtum♏_Talk|Links01:01 12 Jul 2008

But if that counts, then Spanish also counts, where the very first generation had Azul (Blue) and Amarillo (Yellow). Then other languages will see the chance to mention their own coincidence. IMHO, the trivia should contain only the English bit, if any.--Kaoz 23:07, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

GTS

If you look at the picture of inside the new GTS, it has the same big computers as the first new room. Should we change it, or let it be confirmed? PL 12 12:26, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Wait until we actually know what the new GTS does. Until then. Leave it alone. -Sketchies 12:54, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Apparently it is the 'Global Terminal' now, not 'Global Trade Station'.-Rabla 2:34, 11 July 2008.

Giratina's Another Forme

As seen in this picture (bottom right), Giratina seems to have the spikes on his wings rearranged. Is this worthy of a mention? Lv100 14:05, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

I'd say so.--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 18:27, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

They did talk about new animation. Maybe it's the second frame sprite. TTEchidna 05:32, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Probably is. Look at the Origin Forme. It's not the same either. --☆ケンジガール 05:37, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Gym Leader Sprites

I saw a video on Platinum and Gardinia's Sprite moves when you battle her and her Gym is remodeled here's the vid Platinum Video--CoolPikachu! 22:17, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Woah. And from the looks of things, the Pokémon's backsprites have new animations as well. I'm Missingno. Master, and I approve this message. 22:31, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Like Pikachu! It looks at you when coming out.--CoolPikachu! 22:32, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

And Shaymin's new form may have a different cry--CoolPikachu! 23:14, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Different cry? That's weird... TTEchidna 05:53, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Yea I think.--CoolPikachu! 06:01, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, and Deoxys has a different cry in FireRed than in Ruby... hfc 2X 01:36, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Are you sure?--CoolPikachu! 01:37, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

It was sarcasm. No Pokémon has changed its cry since Gen I, and there is no reason to change any existing cry. hfc 2X 01:44, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh.--CoolPikachu! 01:48, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

I think it actually might be a different cry since it is a different type, sprite, shape, size, ect. That may have caused Nintendo to change the cry too.-- User:23-03-33 17:33, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

I see you didn't get it. A cry is something distinctive for every Pokémon, so, it MUST NOT be changed. I know that Mr. Badass is very different than the normal Shaymin we all know, it's still the same Pokémon, so IT WILL HAVE the same 'tweet tweet' cry even if you don't like it. hfc 2X 20:41, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Not as distinctive as some think. Some pokemon share Crys (Mostly in the original 151 but there are exceptions)Lego3400 13:41, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

ditto and poliwag for example Lord of Ori gami 10:49, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

More Info Regarding Platinum

From another Pokémon Sunday video about Platinum, I found out that there will me moving platforms in the Torn World. The outlying platforms you can jump on have gaps, that act a lot like the ledges in ordinary routes. I also watched the part of the video when the hosts of Pokémon Sunday were making Poffins. You have to keep spinning Swalot, and the one who gives him the most berries wins.

--Ore-sama♂ :D 4:26, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

New Information ???

I have found a new source on this page. It has some battle information and some new battle sprites. I think it also describes some wifi differences. I don't speak or read Japanese so I can't really tell.-- User:23-03-33 17:27, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

New Begining

Where does it say or show the player gets their starter in a different way to DP? --Guardian of Earth |SGMS 2010 19:57, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

And the sprites

Since we now know for sure that the Platinum sprites are different for all Pokémon... or at least Sinnoh ones...

Well, what will we do about the animation? Will we do it as we did Emerald? Will we make the DP sprites animate? This sounds... possibly... to be a perfect time to ready support for animated .pngs. TTEchidna 02:29, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

I think it's better to leave DP as inanimated pics. Just like Crystal and Emerald, Platinum ones should be animated, but until the game is released. hfc 2X 03:59, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Why shouldn't the DP sprites be animated? If we do Platinum but not DP, there will be the implication that DP's sprites aren't animated.--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 06:40, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

pngs can be animated!? Lord of Ori gami 11:34, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Worthy of a mention?

I saw this video and if you look around 2:37 you can see that there is snow lining some of the regular routes, probably linked with the climate getting colder. I was wondering if this is worthy of a mention and if it is may I please be the one to add it as it will be my first contribution to the mainpspace. // C-R E-S T-☆ 23:18, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Go ahead; we've already mentioned that the climate is colder, but only to explain why Lucas and Dawn are wearing heavier outfits. We should make the cold climate statement more general...there's snow in Twinleaf now, too.--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 00:30, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Spoilers

is it appropriate to put a spoiler warning on the page? Aura-Knight 01:57, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

yes. Lord of Ori gami 10:11, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Do any of the other games have spoiler tags? No. If people don't want to know about the game, they shouldn't come to the page.--Blaz evoir 10:19, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

And? I vote this page gets a spoiler warning...~~Takoto タコト| サソデイ = 愛 10:29, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Future event tag, not spoiler. However, we could stick the spoiler tag on the storyline area. Θρtιmαtum♏_Talk|Links10:30 3 Sep 2008

leaflet information, probably fake

the video I saw features 3 new rotom formes on youtube, type the following: new Pokemon revealed (rotom new forms)--Nobody777 15:29, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, we've seen it. Porygon-Z 15:41, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

so fake or not? or shall we wait till Nintemdo confirms a thing or two?--Nobody777 15:44, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Nintendo says they won't release anything until September 28, so I'd say wait.--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 16:01, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

151 plus 52?

Well it says that the Sinnoh Dex will be increased with 52 Pokémon... I'd like to see where that info came from, because 151+52 = 203, NOT 210!!!! anyways, if 52 new Pokémon are added, they'll be all Gen IV Pokémon not included in the sinnoh Dex with their families (excluding the Eevee family, as only adding Eevee we get the total of 52). hfc 2X 18:38, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

151+59!--Kuki Talk 18:39, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Ok, someone fixed it... anyways where did that come from especifically? hfc 2X 18:43, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

blueskY, apparently--Kuki Talk 18:45, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Nothing confirmed, don't fanwank. And, I always bring that up when someone religiously follow blueSkY's Blog, blueSkY used to post fake informations, just like the infamous Zak rumor. So, please don't believe in his every word (we still didn't got any confirmation that Volkner will be replaced and I say it's pretty unlikely, as we've seen that Volkner's title is still Gym Leader on one of the videos). --Maxim 18:54, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

That's what I'm talking about, it is extremely doubtful. Is like if they changed the Hoenn dex when Emerald came out, but seeing that they changed a Pokémon's cry, it could be... but very doubtful. hfc 2X 19:00, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

The information originates from a merchandise advertisement; the item in question is associated with Platinum in its branding, but to go as far as to conclude that the collectible Pokémon therein represent the Sinnoh Pokédex critters, is quite a stretch. After all, assuming that the Pokédex has been kept in tact, why should the toy company limit the content to a rather arbitrary selection of Pokémon dictated by the games?

An addition of 59 monsters would be quite noteworthy, and yet all of the game advertisements have only shown the same Pokémon from the original Sinnoh Pokédex (unless in the context of the Battle Frontier and Wi-Fi). Why, for instance, would they have bothered to showcase Magmortar and Electivire in a Wi-Fi battle, when they could have just shown them being used by Volkner and Flint? I should also think that they would have taken the opportunity to refer to Giratina's Sinnoh Pokédex number by now. -Unown Lord 19:24, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

No ranch?!

Aw, man, that stinks. Though can't WiiWare be updated...? TTEchidna 21:46, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Where'd u hear that???--☆Coolピカチュウ! 22:58, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Logic. It's downloadable content. It's very, very simple to issue patches or updates for this format.--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 17:27, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

New sprites

I screenprinted these from some of the trailers and commercials. These are only a few of them and I'm too lazy to find them all. :P

I like the Leafeon and Lucario sprites the most. The Pachirisu looks a bit funny though xD Pocchama 02:52, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Not bad... but I definitely think we ought to wait until the actual game comes out so we can get the sprites directly from a ROM. It'd be more standardized that way. Besides, there's not really a point to adding some sprites if we can't get all of them. --Martonimos_{((Argh|Blargh))} 03:01, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

I agree, we should wait. plus then there'll be no background.

and oh my gosh, what did they do to piplup? when know one picks it, we'll know why. I like the chimchar though. --Mooites ^{Talk to me, baby!} 03:15, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Starly makes you wonder whether it's paying attention or not...--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 05:31, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Lol. They ruined Pachirisu, Piplup, and Turtwig....--☆Coolピカチュウ! 06:00, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

I lol'd at Starly's sprite, also, Piplup's head looks too big :C ~~Takoto タコト| サソデイ = 愛 10:22, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

dude, infernape looks BEAST.Garr ison 12795 11:00, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Some of these have a very peculiar stance...not that it's bad--Wowy 11:02, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

I Lol'd at Pachirisu, plus te buizel sprite whihc isnt here makes it look funny.Davidaipom 18:42, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Getting sprites

So, who'll be getting sprites from Platinum for the site? tc 2 6 10:30, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

I was working on the Dialga's one some days ago... but it still is just a restoration much like the Shaymin's one. hfc 2X 22:08, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

I meant from the game itself when it comes out, not ripping and cleaning from screenshots. tc 2 6 10:14, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Same guys behind it last time... Zhen and a few of those over at PokéWiki. TTEchidna 18:40, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

So we are just plain getting rid of the older DP standard sprites? That doesn't seem right. ~Toastypk - ^Loom. 14:59, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Not rid of. We're replacing ###.png as we did when DP came out. The DP sprites will stay at Spr 4d ###.png, however. TTEchidna 23:31, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Mysterys pokémon = Rotom's new forms

in * Serebii.net and another pkmn web pages show about the mystery silhouettes as a new forms of rotom

O RLY? --Maxim 14:36, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Yep, and not only that, but the game was released today instead of September 13th as originally stated, as Serebii and some people on TV.com are stating the changes and adding to the websites. Weedle Mchairybug 22:34, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Well shit. There goes my plans for Friday. Now I gotta rushjob the updates... Quick, someone finish the moves! TTEchidna 23:47, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Released today

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4kPiOdfY7Y

As you can see, this is the Platinum intro, and it's from a DS, and it was just posted today. Baby G (talk to me) (see my edits) 22:42, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

I bet it's an advance copy. Nintendo often sends games out to popular internet people for them to review and whatever. Porygon-Z 22:52, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Umm, Pikachu135111 and SPDShadowRanger got it as well, and while Pikachu maybe a popular internet reviewer, he isn't even in the same league as other critics. Besides which, SPDShadowRanger isn't really a well-known reviewer (he's more like an informant than an ACTUAL reviewer [By informant, I mean posting recent news, leaked or not on forums for everyone to see, not the "Squealer" kind of informant.].) Weedle Mchairybug 22:59, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

That's called a "leak". Baby G and others, quit treating today as the release date. Nintendo said the 13th and so will this page.--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 02:12, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

In no way are Pikachu135111 and myself reviewers. All we do it post the information for the TV.com community. Also I don't know what you classify as "well Known", but I doubt Pikachu is of that class. Also, we DO NOT have the game.

----HoennMaster 05:13, 11 September 2008 (UTC) (AKA SPDShadowRanger)

Oh... you... weren't. My mistake. I thought that you did have it since you were commenting on it's changes as if you DID own the game, and as if it DID come out.

It's not a "leak". It's from a DS. Baby G (talk to me) (see my edits) 20:34, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Ever heard of an R4? Playing ROMs on actual DSes is possible and common.--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 03:19, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

And even if it's an actual copy of the game, it's entirely possible some import site or Amazon Japan [etc., etc.] simply broke street date...which happened when DP was released in America.--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 03:23, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

There was a ROM leak. It's a small subject of discussion on 2ch right now.
However, most players with legality of ROMs in mind have obtained their Platinums today. --Pizza man 10:00, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Question

I noticed many pokemon that are now in the sinnoh dex that werent before (such as gligar elekid houndour and snorunt) not having an in-game location for platinum. is this because they actually dont or cuz that information is not yet known? Happi zel pom 01:12, 14 September 2008 (UTC) is this

You think we get all this data at once? It was a couple weeks, if not a couple months, before we had it all up from DP. TTEchidna 04:26, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

so what ur saying is that you dont know yet? Happi zel pom 05:06, 14 September 2008 (UTC) also im sorry for asking......

Dialga and Palkia

Sorry if this has already been asked but are bot Dialga and Palkia catchable or do you have to trade them from D/P PhantomCX 10:49, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Spear Pillar, both of them. Dialga before Palkia. tc 2 6 10:52, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

both of them are met at level 70, heatran at 50, the legendaary birds at 60, turnback cave's giratina chamber in Platinum now leads to a portal to the torn world in which the player can gain t he platinum orb.--Nobody777 11:48, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Woa - so let me get this strait - you get to the top of Spear Piller - Battle and (hopefully) catch giratina - then you go finish the elite four & champ then you go back and get both of them - one strait after the other??? PhantomCX 11:54, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Well not really. First you get to Spear Pillar. Cyrus summons both Dialga and Palkia. Then Giratina jumps into the dimension, and opens up a portal to the Torn World. You catch Giratina in the Torn World. After you beat the E4 go back and you will see this blue energy thing, talk to it and you will battle Dialga at Lv. 70, then after that leave then come back and there will be the same thing however its pink and on the opposite side. This one is Palkia at Lv. 70. Then go to Turnback Cave and there will be a portal to the Torn World, however at a different spot. There you will find the Platinum Orb which will keep Giratina in its Origin Forme outside of the torn world. Hope that helps. Happi zel pom 14:04, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Jasmine

Does Jasmine appear in Platinum? K3000 21:15, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes, yes she does. Same place she is in DP. --Pizza man 19:52, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Small storyline changes

Are small storyline changes notable? I mean the really small Gym Leader-to-Gym Leader interaction type ones, like the one with Maylene visiting Candice at Snowpoint City for a training match. --Pizza man 20:04, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

It depends on if it has any important part to the story. If you get to battle them though, THEN it should definitely be mentioned somewhere. R.A. Hunter B. 20:47, 18 September 2008 (UTC)