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Adding transfer-only moves to Pokedex pages

I don't know if I can word this better myself, so I'm going to quote Nescientist.

Sumwun and I believe that, for the moves, an additional section "By transfer from an earlier generation" would be sensible. (Please refer to User talk:Force Fire#Transfer-only moves and ability changes.) The addition of this subsection would enable users to tell what moves <species> can know (in <game/generation>) at one glance.

It's very well possible even Tiddlywinks is underestimating how difficult it is to answer the "know in <game/generation>" question (as much as I initially did). As Sumwun said at the referenced talk page, currently, you'd have to click at least up to 6 links to learnset pages, assuming you already know by heart how transfer works (and that you can't transfer Pokémon from GO by any means, which is what I actually doublechecked). And additionally, you might have to actually neglect irrelevant sections on learnset pages (for example, in USUM/GenVII, Bulbasaur cannot know AncientPower AFAIK). (If there's a faster method, I'd like to hear it.)

And I can't stress how important I think that question is, for I believe it is the central question to that species and learnset pages should be providing an answer to (the use case). It all boils down to that use case: in Tiddlywinks' words, what's the "concern" species/learnset pages try to address? I can't sketch a question/use case that would include "By events" but not "By transfer from a prior generation". (Well, for USUM, I can sketch the question "What moves can <species> with black clover know?", but that's arguably a "special" case, and probably comp-centric*.) I would like to know what you guys think that use case should be.

Regarding Tiddlywinks' comment about this coming from a "specific focus like comp/challenges", I took some time to think about that. Apart from the fact that I don't think the use case is comp-centric even, it is also not subjective, but purely factual, unlike the questions you said "we're never going to do" (and, by the way, I agree we shouldn't). For example, I recall that I once designed a team for my next playthrough, and I was searching possible moves for them. From context, I can recreate it must've been for XY before ORAS came out, because I wanted my Swinub to have a good Special Ground-type STAB and ended up breeding it in an earlier generation so I could teach it Earth Power via move tutor, then transfered (and traded) it to the new save file. I don't think that I ever was, in any point in time, trying to answer a question where I required all current subsections but not "By transfer from a prior generation".

I would like to know what you guys think that use case should be, and whether you think the suggestion subsection is sensible.

sumwun (talk) 03:55, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

Unban from the Forums!

In case this hasn't been solved by the time you read this, and if you can do anything about it: I was just banned from Bulbagarden for two days for forgetting that posting Downfall parodies is not acceptable on the site. I, however, have things I need to attend to at the forums. Please, help me be unbanned early if you in any way can. I've understood my mistake and promise not to repeat it. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 18:53, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

Nevermind. Another user already replied to my question. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 20:32, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

I've been banned from the Forums again, and I don't even know why this time! Help me! I want to get back! --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 20:47, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

I've now found out why I was banned, but still, ten days is too long! I want back in ASAP! --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 21:09, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Image edit requests

The VS model for May with a Mega Bracelet has finally been uploaded. However, while it was upgraded in quality today, its dimensions and/or size don't quite match what I think they're supposed to be. Is it possible for you to do something about it, or should I instead ask for the person who uploaded it to do it instead. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 10:47, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

I'll contact the user. It's best they know for future reference. - Chosen of Mana 13:52, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

The quality of the images from SM103 is not the best possible, and have the TVTokyo logo on them. If you can, could you fix them? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 08:26, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

Nice work, as always! Although you missed one, which could also use a better shot. Also, I wonder if the baby Kangaskhan picture should be updated with a shot from the newest episode, like this one? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 21:22, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

I updated the Double Team picture with the shot I think fits it better, but it still has the TVTokyo logo. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 12:50, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Whoops! No it isn't! My bad! Was in a minor rush and didn't check for the logo, just assumed. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 14:02, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Could you upgrade this image and upload a picture of Gladion's Z-Power Ring? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 11:10, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

I managed to upload the image of Gladion's Z-Power Ring, but still, could you upgrade Dia's Z-Ring picture? Also, several images from SM106 still need logo removal. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 17:28, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

The VS models I mentioned several weeks ago have still not been edited. However, I wondered if the issue with them could be solved by cropping away a little empty space from their sides? Also, I was wondering if you could upload a version of File:SM022.png that more resembles the previous version of the picture. I don't think the pose of Pallosand's "arms" is quite natural in the current version of the image. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 19:31, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

Hello? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 15:39, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Unfortunately I don't have access to SM022. - Chosen (Talk) 15:41, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Okay. I'll just try to contact someone who does. What about the VS model issue? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 17:20, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

I had a look but couldn't find a video that lacked a logo or border, sorry--BigDocFan (talk) 17:34, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

My bad, I found one in the end and uploaded it--BigDocFan (talk) 17:41, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, BDF! I actually was going to come to you next, but you beat me to it! --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 17:53, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

I saw your post here and thought I would have a look to see if I can be of help--BigDocFan (talk) 18:58, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

My next image request would be the picture of Kiawe's Supersonic Skystrike pose. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 12:43, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

Could you move Mallow Mother Bounsweet.png to Mallow mother Bounsweet.png please?--BigDocFan (talk) 16:10, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

Do you know someone who could perhaps upload the sprite of Eusine used during the HeartGold and SoulSilver intro? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 14:17, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

Done - Chosen (Talk) 14:49, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. And I also saw you putting notes on the aforementioned VS models, so thanks for that. I take it that simply cropping some empty space off of them isn't going to solve the issue? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 15:25, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

The core problem lies in the fact the image should be taller, but just adding more pixels to the top will cause the image to be off-center and badly scaled compared to the others. Trying to resize it manually from there will likely distort the image and lessen its quality as well. - Chosen (Talk) 15:28, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

I understand. But thanks for editing Silver's opening sprite as well. That actually reminded me that Cyrus had a similar sprite in Platinum. Can you edit that as well? And while we're at it, are there any other sprites exclusive to the core series openings that could be uploaded? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 19:01, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

Please move Steelium Z anime.png to Ash Steelium Z.png. Thank you in advance. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 07:08, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Sorry to add to your work but any chance of a logoless File:Stoutland_anime.png?--BigDocFan (talk) 13:16, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Just to make sure you didn't miss this one: I was unable to get an image for the second section of SM109's Poké Problem. I was also thinking if the extra scene picture could be changed to feature the shot with Hapu denying her loneliness to Nurse Joy? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 14:02, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Here again. This time I'm in need of logoless versions of two SM111 images: the Dare da? image and the MHA reference image. Thank you. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 11:03, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

The MHA reference is definitely intentional. The similarity is uncanny, as you can see by comparing James's angry face to this image. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 14:35, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

I agree with Chosen, it's just a generic angry face you see in every other anime, it's not exclusive to My Hero Academia.--ForceFire 16:20, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Show me a picture of one other anime with exactly those kinds of eyes, and I can agree. Until then, I think you're both being overly skeptical. Even I, a person who's never watched MHA, am convinced the resemblance is uncanny. Aren't the pictures I provided enough of a proof? The Sun & Moon series has been filled with facial references like this to different animes many times before, so why not here as well? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 16:29, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Was wondering if you could make Catch Race Poké Ball.png 1280x720--BigDocFan (talk) 20:08, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

Done. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 12:41, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

Could you move Clone Balls anime.png under a new title? Those Balls are officially known as Mewtwo Balls now. And I'm not sure if the "anime" part at the end is necessary. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 19:42, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

File:SM114 Z-Crystals.png needs a logoless version, please. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 11:00, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Same treatment now needed for the Dare da image of SM116. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 12:25, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Now the same treatment for the same image from SM117. Also, I wasn't able to get satisfying watermark-less versions of Ash Meltan.png and Malie Garden anime.png, or a subtitle-less version of the second Poké Problem image from SM117, and I was thinking that this shot could be used as the "Ash and Meltan" image. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 09:14, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

I'm sure you by now know the drill. Also, are you able to upload combination pictures? In other words, are you able to combine screenshots from the introduction shot of the Kantonian Gym into a picture that shows the tower as a whole? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 12:47, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

I'm afraid I don't know how to do panned shots. I can try and contact someone that does. Also, in the future, could you direct archives-related requests and concerns to my Archives talk? - Chosen (Talk) 13:13, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

Understood. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 13:14, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

Image Move Request

I've noticed that several images featuring Mad Magma's Magmortar still say Mad Boober, could you change this to Mad Magma please?--BigDocFan (talk) 19:48, 4 January 2019 (UTC) Could you do the same please with Mr. Elec Electivire Low Kick.png--BigDocFan (talk) 19:03, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Could you change File:Snorunt anime.png and File:Sneasel anime.png to Mount Lanakila Snorunt.png and Mount Lanakila Sneasel.png--BigDocFan (talk) 19:40, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Pokemon with forms

I noticed that you edited a few lists of Pokemon to change the way the names of forms are formatted. Can you also change "<Pokemon> Alolan Form" to "Alolan <Pokemon>"? sumwun (talk) 20:00, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

I believe I tried something to that effect around when they were introduced, but it was overruled, so I'm inclined to leave it alone - Chosen (Talk) 22:16, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Oh okay. sumwun (talk) 22:29, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

User Page shown in Pokemon Category page

I kinda found a user page User:Tiddlywinks/Tapu Koko on | Category Generation VII Pokémon and I'm sure this should not be there. It might just be an accident, but this page should be removed from the section. Deathmailrock (talk) 19:51, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

Secret Techniques icons

Hi, I saw you uploaded the Secret Techniques icons from Let's Go!. Do you have access to other files from those games? I'm interested in having the italian translations of those icons to use them in Pokémon Central Wiki (the italian Pokémon Wiki, I'm an administrator there). If you could send me those files, I would appreciate it. Thanks!--Snorlite (talk) 12:39, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

SM111

Should Meltan be hidden on SM111's page until it's shown to be in it or mentioned through a summary? We know it will be it, but it hasn't been 100% proven yet. Playerking95 (talk) 15:09, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

If you have to ask, I would say yes. - Chosen (Talk) 15:12, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

So I can do it? I'm only asking because i don't want to edit war. Playerking95 (talk) 15:46, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

In that case, leave it to me. It should have more weight if a mod does it. - Chosen (Talk) 15:47, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Necrozma's Z-move

I don't get what you mean. - - unsigned comment from SeeYaLater (talk • contribs)

Searing Sunraze Smash and Menacing Moonraze Maelstrom, along with their respective Z-Crystals, Solganium Z and Lunalium Z, are not exclusive to Solgaleo and Lunala as Necrozma can used them when fused with the respective Pokémon. - Chosen (Talk) 17:14, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Z-Move

Can you please upload an anime image of Supersonic Skystrike's text before Kiawe's Charizard uses it, please? Seabiscuit2020 (talk) 15:16, 18 February, 2019 (UTC)

Category problem

I just created a new category for episodes in which one of Ash's friends gets a new Z-Crystal. So could you please delete Category:Episodes in which Lana gets a Z-Crystal? Also, I wonder if there should be category for episodes in which any main character other than Ash gets a new crystal, i.e. should the episodes where Team Rocket gets a new Z-Crystal be grouped together with the episodes where one of Ash's friends gets a Z-Crystal? What do you think? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 09:53, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Delete Images

Was wondering if you could delete the following images as I have replaced those that were used with a better named one.

Primarina anime.png

Machamp anime.png

Decidueye anime.png--BigDocFan (talk) 12:04, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

Re: Removing personal image

Hey, I tried to talk to you at the archives, but figured maybe here would be better. Could you go back to my talk page in the archives so we can continue to talk about this issue? Suic12- (talk) 13:20, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

TwistedMeow‎

Can you do something about TwistedMeow‎'s creation of page Sword (game)? Playerking95 (talk) 17:12, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Help requests

I have couple things I'd like to ask your help/advice with:

1) I'm planning to continue creating articles for Orre game Key Items, which I accidentally stopped midway through months ago. However, could you help in splitting the Sun and Moon Shards article into two separate articles, similar to how the Fossil articles were split some time ago? Thank you.

2) Do you think Mallow's Tsareena could've been confirmed to have used Sweet Scent in the episode where it evolved for the second time? This issue has been going on for months already, which frustrates me, since it seems to obvious. Its first two stages have been confirmed to have used that move, but some users doubt that its third stage has, despite the move being animated identically at each stage. What do you think? Or should I ask some other admin about this?

Thank you in advance. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 16:53, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Well? Can you help me with these? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 16:09, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

The MHA reference

I've already brought this up with Force Fire, but just in case, I'm also bringing it up here: the angry eyes that James makes in SM111 are definitely not any regular angry anime eyes. Check these two images as examples of regular angry white anime eyes, and then compare them to these two images from MHA. Don't you think the difference is pretty obvious? Also, as I've already said, the Sun & Moon series loves making visual references to other anime. What's the reason to doubt this was intentional? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 11:14, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

SM113

Can something be done episode about this? https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=SM113&diff=prev&oldid=2941584 An episode simply referencing a past episode isn't trivia worthy in the slightest. Characters talk about past events ALL the time. And Jessie sometimes rehashes a fake persona that she had used before? Nothing about that is notable for the trivia section. Playerking95 (talk) 17:42, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

Weird article

LugiaLunala (talk • contribs) has just created an article that I don't think needs to exist. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 12:17, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Never mind. Abcboy already took care of it. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 12:36, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Now Samueljoo (talk • contribs) has created an article about Magearna that I think is too early to exist. Perhaps it should be moved under his user page? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 13:36, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Moved by Rahl. Could you remove the redirect page? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 13:58, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Template edit request

I was wondering if you could edit the Mv and Mva templates at Bulbagarden Archives so that the TM sprites used on them would be the ones used from Generation VI onward, instead of the ones from Generations III to V? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 15:53, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

Aromatherapy

As it has been stated many times before, moves need to be named or have to have a unique animation, so why did a user add the recurring Shaymin in the anime as one who has used the move? I keep having to tell people like Finnishpokefan that moves need to be stated, but they keep adding them despite this and then add them back when they've been removed for not being stated. I thought this rule was meant to be followed, but it keeps getting ignored. Playerking95 (talk) 13:46, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

Forest Pokémon Café

Was wondering if you could assist me with getting User:BigDocFan/Forest Pokémon Café mainspaced?--BigDocFan (talk) 09:33, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

How should I do this?

Yesterday, I merged most of the SM and USUM location info on most item pages, and today I've done a couple more that I missed for one reason or another. Now, as far as I'm aware, only the location infosvof Pearl and Big Pearl need merging. The reason why I'm asking for help here is that those items can be found on Ula'ula Beach, a location that changed its name between the two sets of games, and I'm not sure how this should handled while fusing the location lists together. How do you think it should be handled? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 19:58, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

In this case I would either do [[Ula'ula Beach|Secluded Shore]]{{sup/7|SM}}/[[[[Ula'ula Beach]]{{sup/7|USUM}} or keep them separate. Note that some pages, where the stories of SM and USUM diverge signigigantly, such as Beast Ball, they are kept separate. - Chosen (Talk) 22:30, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, I think I'll do it the way you described. My policy has basically been that of any obtainment method is shared between the two sets of games, the descriptions can be combined. This obviously doesn't fit with the Beast Ball, so I can understand that. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 09:57, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Plus, these items share most of their obtainment methods between the two sets of games, so combining the location lists for them makes sense. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 10:11, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Unnecessary redirects?

I just created a page for the Poké Snack item present in Pokémon XD. I also edited a bunch of old redirect pages to go there instead of "Pokémon food#Poké Snacks". However, some of these redirect pages seem a bit redundant to me, and I was wondering if you could judge which of them perhaps should be deleted. Thank you. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 18:06, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Check your Archives talk page, please

I left you some image upload requests on your Archives talk page yesterday. Have you not noticed them yet? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 20:09, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

I'm still waiting. Abd more requests have just surfaced, along with the latest episode. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 07:02, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

LGPE Event

Before you rudely undid my contribution and typed in bold letters in the edit summary, I would just like to point out that Pokémon Center Birthday Chansey is also listed in the Local Event page. That distribution is also given away "by CONNECTING TO THE INTERNET with THEIR SWITCH and ENTERING A SERIAL CODE." Therefore if you would like to undo my edit, maybe you should also check for consistency as well. As there are no region locks with the switch games, it is actually unreasonable to put the Pokémon Pass event on the "American region" page as they are grouped by cartridge region rather than distribution region, meaning that all "cartridge region" LGPE game can receive the Pokémon, given that they have the code. This would mean that (based on your logic), the Pokémon Pass event info should be written on all the pages (PAL, KOR, HKTW, JPN).

If this issue has already being discussed by the Editorial Board beforehand, I do apologize for changing them back on the wiki. However, even if you are a Junior Admin for Bulbapedia, it doesn't mean that you should be talking down on people in a condescending tone. Just letting you know that I am a staff member on 52Poke wiki and basically oversees the wiki over there, and this is certainly not the way I would be acting towards contributors over there. There are already tons of things that need to be done on 52Poke and I am only editing here based on good will (let's not talk about all the other Chinese translations on Bulbapedia being incorrect and me changing them), so please refrain from using a condescending tone towards other contributors. --  Tsanger | 留言  07:45, 26 June 2019 (UTC)