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Render time

Why does Bulbapedia take so long to view? What has to be done to fix this? --☯ *Ɣℯⲛօӎօṫհ* ☯ 17:58, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Did you know

whoa, these are some pretty informitive did you know facts...KPF30px 30px by the way, just a 1 time little comment...KPF30px 30px 03:50, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

LOL Thank you. --Theryguy512 11:44, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

What the Heck?!?!?

OK the people who talk about gltiches sound very fake. first of all,

Missingno. dude, everyone knows you lie. I used to have Blue; I caught Missingo.,'M and lowercase a and had no promblems with the game or Pokémon stats!! Graphics were a promblem but they were fixed!!!!!!!!!

second of all, Diamond boy no one likes your little fake δ♪♂×♀!!! Nobody's laughing!!

Sorry if this offends. Never mind, I hope this DOES offend you so you'll no longer lie!!!

Sorry a bout my temper to everyone else.

--File:Ani018MS.gifMoisesmoralesFile:Ani235MS.gif 23:19, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

....Was that really necessary? --Theryguy512 23:38, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

I laughed. And I'm not? offended. :p Ahahaha. Tina ^δ♫ 23:42, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Well it gets on my nerves when I have to hear about someone catching Flootenkerp , or ♫♂♥♂×♫ or Missingno. that changes the way the game is other than the graphics!!!!!! ITS ALL FAKE!!!! you have to be an idiot not to relize that. P.S. It was necessary to yell at stupid people. And again sorry you all had to read that unless you make up crap like that!! --File:Ani018MS.gifMoisesmoralesFile:Ani235MS.gif 17:41, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

I didn't even catch Missingno. and my pokemon league info is all effed up.

Signatures

I have been wondering for a long time. How do you put signatures after your posts? I know you usually sign it with ~~~~, but how do you add a little Pokemon? Do you know what I am asking? Unsigned comment by Deadlymethane... yay for irony

I see. You make a signature. Actually I make signatures. I've made signatures for 8 already.^PokeManiac₁₀₂ 22:06, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Edit the nickname field in your Preferences and check the "Raw signatures" box. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 22:09, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Preffered Pokémon images are available at {{ani}} or {{MS}}... Tina ^δ♫ 22:14, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Do we have an official page on how to make sigs? Zurqoxn 09:20, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure Tina has a page somewhere. GlinnFile:Ani202MS.gif 09:32, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Right here. Although with the signature policy being made, that'll give some guidelines to signature making... ;>_> Tina ^δ♫ 16:28, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for showing me. I'll make a cool little signature when I have the time. And I can't believe I forgot to sign my post. XD Test 04:31, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Pokemon GS remakes

Hey you guys please surf the net and put anything you find interesting or worth noting on this page!! (below)

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pokemon_Gold_and_Silver_remakes

--Hey1031 23:02, 18 January 2008 (UTC) ☆

TCG

Ok can anyone join my TCG Contest???? Its almost the end of the month!! I even left a link for blank cards!!! and here is the link to the contest. --File:Ani018MS.gifMoisesmoralesFile:Ani235MS.gif 02:56, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

I know... but how do I do it? I just found BLANKS!!! Also, I can't find the font for the text...--Bulbmond 20:57, 3 February 2008 (UTC)Bulbamond TALK STUFF

Team

OK WILL ANYBODY JOIN MY TEAM?!!?!?!? Just click here!Bulbamond TALK STUFF

I don't think advertisements are really allowed for missions. :| Tina ^δ♫ 01:02, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

I agree File:DP Rich Boy.pngCount Caterpie File:Ani010MS.gifFile:Trozeiani010.gif 07:57, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Uh-huh...It's bad enough making (I learnt that the harde way) but advertising? Our license actually PREVENTS us from advertising! Ph34r4ever^{Talk page♊} 08:18, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

OK, I am NOT advertising, I just telling users, only Darth Cookie Monster joined!--Bulbmond 01:44, 9 February 2008 (UTC)Bulbamond TALK STUFF

Errr, that's the definite meaning of 'advertisment' Ph34r4ever^{Talk page♊} 01:48, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

OK....--Bulbmond 19:27, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

D/P Anime UK

Hey, shouldn't it be an event that the Diamond and Pearl anime came out on The 4th? I missed and had to watch it on YouTube! COME ONE!File:Ani025MS.gifSonic Pikachu ^RTP|1#fan File:Ani155MS.gifFile:Ani001MS.gif

Urm well, no, not relly. I live in the UK, and it's not exactly BIG news is it? Japan = YES!! USA = Yes! Europe = yeah... 8D TESHIGIGAS 17:42, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

NOT FAIR! That's kinda being racist!File:Ani025MS.gifSonic Pikachu ^RTP|1#fan File:Ani155MS.gifFile:Ani001MS.gif 17:50, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Racist??!! Where did that come from? TESHIGIGAS 19:13, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, no nott really. I can be 'REALLY' RANDOM AT TIMES. yOU SHOULD SEe my site, Click here. But It still isn't fair that just because this is an American site (kinda) that they only put American and Japanese events. I could have missed an important event!File:Ani025MS.gifSonic Pikachu ^RTP|1#fan File:Ani155MS.gifFile:Ani001MS.gif 19:30, 8 February 2008 (UTC) And actually I did. I had to watch the first episode on YouTube!

Oh yeah, I didn't mean to advertise just them. It's just I can be really random at times.File:Ani025MS.gifSonic Pikachu ^RTP|1#fan File:Ani155MS.gifFile:Ani001MS.gif 19:33, 8 February 2008 (UTC)CAROT!

Lol, 8D Randomness and kewl fun word makingness (ooh I just did one) Meh, whatever. I'll let you know when he movie comes out here! TESHIGIGAS 20:16, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

If you're talking about Bulbanews, we don't even create articles for dub titles. If anything newsworthy happens in the UK, I'll report it. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 20:43, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!File:Ani025MS.gifSonic Pikachu ^RTP|1#fan File:Ani155MS.gifFile:Ani001MS.gif 07:42, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Congrats you guys!

Wow, 8000 articles...it's really something!

I'll admit, 2 years back, when I was much stupider than I am now, me and my friend would vandalize Bulbapedia.

I hope you'll accept my apology D:

--Ceeoentheeo 04:24, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Front Page

What's with the picture on the front page? Was it vandalizad? YinFile:Ani006MS.gifYangFile:Ani009MS.gif 1195File:Ani025MS.gif 19:01, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

I think it was.... All I know for sure is that it's REALLY disturbingChoconeko#359 19:03, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

It was :@ Porygon-Z 19:05, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

vandilism...

Anybody notice how much vandilism there is today?-Darkmaster0 19:40, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

It's been fixed. Porygon-Z 19:42, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

But I think it is strange how much is going on today.It is the most vandilism I have seen since I joined bulbapedia.I also think it is kinda strange how many acounts have been created today.I see a connection betweeen the acounts.Darkmaster019:52, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Protection

Of the archive is requested. Just in case someone tries to add something funny in it. Optimatum^Talk|♊12:00 20 Mar 2008

Done. TTEchidnaFire echy 05:55, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Dot Artist

I have discovered the true purpose of the Dot Artist! And I don't believe for a minute that it was a waste of time. -Pat 04:19, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

That's great and all but uh... This is really main page stuff File:DP Rich Boy.pngCount CaterpieFile:Ani010MS.gifFile:Trozeiani010.gif Happy Easter 05:47, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Hey, it's Charmander's Red/Blue backsprite!

Useless... but isn't the Pokétch in the colors that the original GB could display? Maybe move this comment thingy to the Pokétch talk page? TTEchidnaFire echy 05:53, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, true. I just wanted it to actually be seen by someone within the next six months. Plus, pretty much every other wiki uses the Main Page discussion page for general wiki-subject-related conversation. -Pat 09:34, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Awesomeness! XD TESHIGIGAS 14:11, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Captures

Last year someone reported on the front page that Happiny and Buizel were joining the team, so why hasn't anyone reported that Gliscor and Swinub will?

HoennMaster 07:26 PM (CST) March 23, 2008.

Because it's unconfirmed. Tina ^δ♫ 00:54, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Umm...last year it showed those two with the trainers and their other pokemon, and this year it shows Gliscor and Swinub with the trainers and pokemon. It's pretty obvious they are joining the team as Gligar is missing and a Gliscor is there.

Last year, plot-spoiling Japan was considered the norm around here. That practice was pretty much stopped when the Cacnea debacle hit, and ever since then, anything not 100% confirmed posed as such gets reverted even if evidence points to it (such as Aipom's evolution in DP060). As such, we're assuming that the Gliscor and Swinub in the previews are unrelated to the group until and unless episodes prove otherwise. This way, we avoid another incident like the Cacnea debacle. --Shiningpikablu252 03:37, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Additionally, Happiny was shown in Brock's arms to prove it was his, and a bunch of people thought Buizel would go to Ash. So who really knows. We will see when we see, okay? TTEchidnaFire echy 06:07, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Problem...

For some unknown reason, I can't edit my userpage right now. It says that I do not have permission. Can anyone explain? (I'm sure that the answer is right in front of me...-__-) --Deadlymethane

The admins are testing something again. Check MY talk pageC Is for Cookie

NO ONE CAN EDIT ANYONE'S PAGE. It's a test they are doing on the server. It'll be over soonC Is for Cookie

Any idea when "soon" is?

I'm sure that "soon" will be much longer than anybody wants to wait. --Deadlymethane

Which is usually five seconds. TTEchidnaFire echy 22:35, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Notice should be put up?

That no users can edit their pages until this testing is finished? Because I mean, well.. yeah. Everyone seems to be freaking out and not really noticing that other users have been asking the same question and are getting the same answer, but eh, that's just me. Tina ^δ♫ 20:26, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, because I had posted the question on Archaic's talk page, I didn't even know everyone was having the same problem. When they do something like this, they should tell us somehow! -Theininen (I was working on my signature, but I didn't get 2 finish before the testing)

*Freaks out* :: Why can't I edit my User Page!?!?!?

(In other words, I agree.) --Deadlymethane

Fun While you wait

if you're like me, you need something to kill time Untill they let you update your user page:

http://www.vgcats.com/comics/

this weeks is awesome. Don't miss it. Unsigned comment by Manamaster

THing is, this is all just to help us do more mainspace edits! Optimatum^Talk|♊08:44 27 Mar 2008

There is a wealth of stuff you can do outside Bulbapedia. If editing your user page is the most important thing to you, then maybe you should look into getting a blog instead. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 12:57, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Exactly, Bulbapedia isn't a PokéBlog. It's a community-driven Pokémon encyclopedia. TESHIGIGAS 17:29, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes, and this website was made so you can edit mainspace articles, not userpagesPokeManiac102 17:31, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Exactly, Bulbapedia is a community-driven Pokémon encyclopedia for mainspace editing. (I'm going to drum this into peoples heads!) XD TESHIGIGAS 17:35, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Take a look at my contibutions. Do you think I visit Bulbapedia just to edit the Pokémon articles? No. I like to edit my User Page more than anything. Then I whine and complain until people look at it and sign their name under the "People Who Just Wasted A Few Minutes Of Their Life" heading. --Deadlymethane

Not to mention how much of a community Bulbapedia is- there is no denying how much it helps pokemon game players meet other fans of the game for trades, battles, etc. Just because it's main purpose is to inform people about the game, dosen't mean that it shouldn't also serve as a platform to boost the quality of Pokémon gameplay. It's a community-driven Pokémon encyclopedia. Without the community its just not the same. Not to mention editing one's userspace is good practice for editing other pages. i learned all i know about code writing just messing around with my myspace, and since wiki pages use a very different code, i need some way to learn withought messing up a well-written article.

If you hit "Show Preview" instead of "Save Page", you can test coding on any page you like... just don't save it, so when you're done, it goes right back to normal. That's how I learned a lot of my coding. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> 07:46, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Might I just remind everyone that we do have a dedicated forum, accessable at at bmgf.bulbagarden.net, which would be a more suitable location (and less stress on the server) for the community to get together than using the User namespace.

Right now, we have a serious issue with the server that needs to be addressed, and we're doing all we can to reduce load. The excessive use of the User namespace for frivolous things that really belong on the forums, and the excessive user of templates for peoples signatures here (using templates means more database accesses, meaning more load, so please use only small non-template signatures!), while not the only problems, appear to have greatly contributed to the issue. --Archaic 00:59, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

A lot of the stuff I know about Pokémon comes from Bulba, and the rest is already posted here, so I can only really make contribs to talks at this point. A lot of people are probably in a similar situation, leading to the overwhelming Userpage edits you mentioned. (Btw, someone ask TTEchidna to see my talk, because of the stuff on that vandal on his talk, my <insert favorite @!#$%&* here> computer won't let me access it) -Theininen 02:06, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

I live in an ancient city which gives almost NO info on Pokémon (DP001 starts next week). But I can still edit, so what's your problem? Optimatum♏^Talk|♊02:37 30 Mar 2008

My dad put on a stupid blocker, half the time it doesn't let me on the weather channel because of ads. -Theininen 02:49, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Okay, what the fuck are you talking about? Optimatum♏^Talk|♊02:52 30 Mar 2008

The talk about the vandal who made inappropriate edits (i think that's what it's blocking), my commputer picks up on a couple of those words and blocks it, I just wanted to talk to him about some of his Pokémon, can you edit under wher i edited before (i was using another computer) and ask him to see my talk? -Theininen 03:03, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

I think you shouldn't fight,

There's never a fight on Monday night at the Brass Dragon Saloon

Wit? 'tis absurd! Smith's Stout - not light.

Although we'd like to visit the moon,

--Moisesmorales 17:01, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Here's Part-Two: I like raw eggs,

Unable to win or lose or even play the game

stupid they've been covered with eggs

But no one ever is to blame. --Moisesmorales 17:04, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

And finally Part-Three:

What really is Bulbapedia?

you slushed blue guru

Reality is a staircase leading nowhere.

Mashed potatoes, where's the gravy baby? --Moisesmorales 17:12, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

I assume this was a poem. (you didn't follow a very good rhyme scheme) ^Moldy_Orange 19:20, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Hurry Up Already!!!

It's been a week! I want to fix that annoying open link on my userpage and finish it up! When can we edit them?!?!?!?!?!? -Theininen 20:27, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

User namespace

Has been anihilated (wrong spelling, I know)? For how long? Will they return? What will happen to the gazillion controvershal issues that may arise from users such as PokeNovi22? -cliffhanger- Optimatum♏^Talk1 Apr 2008

I assume the entire namespace is still somewhere, seeing as there's no record of any deletions (I can't restore "deleted" user pages either). I'm sure everything will be revealed in due time. =P -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 12:59, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

You can visit them with Top-level categories/user languages

yes. they moved all User namespaces to "Usеr" - which has a cyrillic "e". So in the URL (URLs dont use special chars) it's not "user" but "Us%D0%B5r". hope this helps. it was the admins idea of an april fools joke. This method is faster than the Toplevel category method {{subst:Usеr:Origamiguy/Signature}} 14:54, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, i didnt know yet

Hehehehe very funnyUser:Darth Cookie Monster

Shh. Pretend you don't know. TTEchidna 20:32, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

The Admins really make me mad sometimes... --Posted by Deadlymethane at 22:13, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, if this is their idea of a prank, they have a very evil sense of humor. -Theininen 22:18, 1 April 2008 (UTC) (btw, does anyone know when they will stop? This has gone on long enough [a week long enough, plz just stop and let us use our pages.].)

Personally, I think it's very humorous. Besides, it's April Fools Day. You had to expect something was going to happen. --PAK Man ^Talk 22:21, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

I you think it's humorous, you obviously didn't log on and realize your userpage was gone, then take the post seriously! -Theininen 22:30, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Then it's your fault that you took this all seriously :P Tina ^δ♫ 22:36, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

and this is why no one takes April Fools for what it is, because they TAKE IT TOO SERIOUSLY. it actually sort of brings me to a point...people are complaining "i want my user space back! wah wah!" its a frickin Wiki, not your personal webspace. good lord. -- MAGNEDETH 23:14, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Of course, the danger for you all now is that this could turn into something not a joke. Getting people off those user pages for a day apparently made a massive difference in terms of server load. And by massive, I mean that at our usual peak load times, instead of having load values of 50+, we had single digit load. It's probably the first peak period in months that the server didn't crash. If the user pages really are the cause, we're going to have to do something to drastically reduce the amount of abuse they're getting. --Archaic 23:36, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

First of all, Archaic has a point. This is a Pokémon wiki, not a MySpace or Facebook page. If you want to put all your personal information somewhere, then get an account on those sites, but not here. Secondly, I was aware that my page was gone, and I am also an administrator as well. Seriously, can't people take a joke around here? --PAK Man ^Talk 23:54, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

if i may say so, sounds like i hit the nail on the head. id also like to to say that at the very least, people should have their own user page. the sig policy demands it, and now its for naught! -- MAGNEDETH 00:04, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

And re: what Archaic said before, if that's true, and it dropped off that much, how many people (members and visitors) would we lose? I mean, the site's great, but the userpages give it personality. Seriously, people are drawn in by the articles, but the pages give them something Poké-related to entertain, free and almost alive in and of itself. Think about how many people would come on if there were just information. A lot less. -Theininen 01:37, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

So that's what happened LOL :)it was a joke lol Happy April Fool's Day:D LOL!!!!Is there any other websites doing a prank??Cool Pikachu!!!

DAMN, now that we know, when do we get them BAACKK!!!?!!!KPF30px 30px 01:07, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Only thing i can think of is by vandalizing, and that'll just get you booted and not do much, since they probably have several backups, so we can't do much (unless you know one personally) :( -Theininen 01:37, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

well, you guys could deal with it and not edit your userpages. it is a Wiki after all. did you not read the above comments by the Admins? -- MAGNEDETH 01:44, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

I have said before (somewhere) that a lot of what people know about Pokémon is from this site, and most of the rest is already posted. Userpages give something to do while waiting for new information to post, otherwise people wouldn't even bother going the site half the time. It shouldn't be a blog, but the pages keep people busy for a bit, until they can contribute otherwise. -Theininen 01:59, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

You know, if no User: namespace articles are really helping the server out, then I think it's time to really cut down the userspace. BG already goes under quite a bit of server load, why bog it down more? :/ Tina ^δ♫ 02:04, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Actually, the articles still exists.PokeManiac102 02:05, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

the articles themselvs arent the problem, its the mass editing. people join the site and head straight into the User space and go to town, and thats wrong. -- MAGNEDETH 02:07, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Exactly, no one really pays attention to the whole reason why Bulbapedia exists-- not for the userpages and the neat things you can put on there, but the actual content. Without it being edited as frequently, not much new info is added to the stubs (I'd help expand them, but most stubs are in things that I don't know much about) and so on. Tina ^δ♫ 02:09, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Exactly2 (the sequel?). i dont really do stubs for the same reason, i just meander around and keep things looking fresh. ive also got personal projects, like my TM pages project which turned all the TM pages from redirects to the (oh so wonderful) TM page, to individual pages in their own right. furthermore, ive heard people say they dont have anything to do. boy howdy, i was on Walrein's page, and IT DOESNT EVEN HAVE GEN IV INFO ON IT!! it is on my list of things to do (but, ill need some time to set aside for it) but that being said, there is stuff to do, and you are more than welcome to tackle that job. -- MAGNEDETH 02:25, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Although the user pages are still in the database, I think the main point is that people are not editing or even looking at them now that they're somewhat harder to get to. - 振霖_T 04:23, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Pow. 480+ articles need to be updated to the new movelist standards. Section headings need to be reduced. 500+ episodes need this done. Most also need synopses. Pages need to be made for the rest of the TCG cards; lists need to be updated. We have a lot to do, and the User: namespace is just getting in the way. Have you seen how much got done in the last week since we blocked editing in that namespace? It's beautiful. Bulbapedia's working again.

However, I don't think that the userspace should be blocked and blanked out permanently. That'd be stupid. We're gonna figure out what we're gonna do in the coming month, but mark my words, it won't be long before you can edit userspace again. It just won't be too much. TTEchidna 04:25, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

works for me. whats the new "movelist standard"? (or is this not the place to talk about it? -- MAGNEDETH 04:27, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

New standard is the one on Bulbasaur's page. TTEchidna 05:24, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

I think the removing of user namespaces helped me out cuz if anyone checks my contributions page i think i have made over 70 edits to my own userpage and that's not good for the Bulba. So this is like a rehab for me. Boywonder01 21:00, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

70? I've made much much morePokeManiac102 21:05, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

OK, OK, april fools' day is over, you can let members change userpages now. Come on, I know it was part of the prank. -- Glitch Pokémon. Official Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. In my opinion, the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by Missingno. Master 10:25, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Not really... It started last week. We'll give that ability back as soon as we've found a viable solution. If you wanna be the guy who patrols how many edits someone's making to their userspace compared to the mainspace, go on and tell us. Believe me, poring over RC is not fun when we gotta update a billion pages to Gen IV style (why have we not done that yet? Userpages!). TTEchidna 21:22, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Solving the Problem

the following conversation took place on TTEchidna's talk page, and was moved here due to relevence.

I disagree with the conditions of the User Page removal. This may not be the place to gripe about it, but would it be possible to simply limit the number of edits users made in their namespace? To something like, say, twice-per-day? It's a really major change, and, although I'm really enjoying the increased server speed, it's not an all-around good thing. I'll probably get used to it, but it's not easy. --ニョロトノ666 01:41, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

i agree that the user space shouldnt be COMPLETELY banned. i support a limit of edits per day, but, is it possible to enforce it? also, it wouldnt really prevent people from abusing it. i was thinking a credit system where when you make so many main space edits, you get so many user space edits allowed. but thats probably even harder to enforce. -- MAGNEDETH 01:53, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

It's not a matter of enforcing it by simply stating it as a rule. The server would have to be configured to only allow a certain number of edits per day. --ニョロトノ666 01:56, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

well yea, thats exactly what i mean. enforce it, as in, make it impossible to break the rule via a server command (or whatever). the problem is, i dont know if that is technically possible. also, two edits a day is rather strict, maybe 5 or 10. but, if it were 2, it wouldnt bother me much. -- MAGNEDETH 02:01, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

I support the userspace ban. It will probably weed out the people who were here just for the userspace. It's like a rehab for me. Boywonder01 01:59, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

an outright ban in my opinion doesnt make sence. -- MAGNEDETH 02:01, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

I like the credit system that you proposed but like you said it would probably be hard to enforce Boywonder01 02:02, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Okay. It doesn't need to be enforced if it can't be done. I believe the server can be made to block a user if they try to edit their page more than x number of times per day. --ニョロトノ666 02:06, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

i hope you man "block" as in, block them from the user space, not the whole site! -- MAGNEDETH 02:07, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, Banning from the site is a little too much if they are just editing their userspace. i say only if they do it a certain number of times in an hour, then they get banned for a certain number of hours from editing their userspace or something like that. Boywonder01 02:13, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

well, i was thinking more like "Stock" (think SSBB if you know of it) you use them up, and you are done for the day (User pages anyway) -- MAGNEDETH 02:20, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

that's a good idea, but you know a lot of people wouldn't like the credit system. They would complain and say something really stupid like "someone stole my credits" Boywonder01 02:32, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

well, its not really possible to steal credits. i think people would be more mad about: "i wuz like editing my user page and it um told me to not edit anymor! halp i need to finiish my page!!!!" -- MAGNEDETH 02:35, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

there would be a lot of people with complaints like that and this will probably be the most asked question of the hour "How do i get more credits?" and "if i edit my userpage does that count for me getting more credits?" Boywonder01 02:44, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

exactly. i just had a thought. i added 3,000+ chars to the Spheal (and evos), now, if that were to relate to ONE credit each? it would be a rather large jip. particularly, if i think that ONE edit would constitute a fraction of a credit. so, maybe fraction of a credit per edit, and an added bonus of so much credit-ness for how much you edit. ie: fixing spelling (+1) gives you a rather insignificant amount of credit, but, adding entire section to a page, (+3,000) gives you possibly a full credit per 1,000 chars? it may be tough to understand. i hope im making this clear. also, sorry TTE for messing about on your user page. in fact, i think im going to mive this over to "Talk:Main Page". done. -- MAGNEDETH 02:56, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

I think that if they had to make so few edits to their pages, it would teach them to use the preview button, a feature most users overlook! ^Moldy_Orange 03:19, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I get what Magnedeth's saying. Something like that could work out. Personally, once I fix that one link, I probably won't use my page much. People should be able to use them on a basis of Main edit to user edit, but what about if, like Tina said above, we can't do a lot to improve stuff?... Still some bugs in that plan. -Theininen 03:25, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

That would work, but would the server automatically keep count of the amount of credits people earn? Boywonder01 03:47, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

well it would pretty much have to. in fact, it already does. its called the Bulbapedia:Top contributors of the month. (i did pretty good last month) in fact, that should be updating soon. im just not sure how it would all work. im not good with techno-babble. -- MAGNEDETH 03:52, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

It could be that for everytime you edit your namespace it's two credits and for every personal page you create it would be like 5 credits. Boywonder01 03:59, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

yea, that sounds easier than "fractions of a credit". but i cant help but think that creating a new page should actually cost more. maybe 10+. then again, were talking complete speculation and general idea tossing here. theres hardly a chance any of this will be adopted. -- MAGNEDETH 04:06, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Actually, Zhen and I discussed it a bit. The problem is less the actual idea of the credits, more the enforcement of it. TTEchidna 04:38, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Could anyone add to Ninetales' page that it _does_ learn Solarbeam in Generation IV..? It's missing, and I'm newbie... Yatski 13:16, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Ok. I will! TESHIGIGAS 13:17, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

I honestly just like the limit idea. You can only edit your user page X times per day. It would encourage people to use the preview button. --Posted by Deadlymethane at 20:27, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

We're determining what X should be. Expect it following the 73rd element. TTEchidna 21:14, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

guess that means were going to wait a while, because were only on The Fifth Element... -- MAGNEDETH 03:41, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

By 73rd element, I'm guessing you don't mean Tantalum...

I support the idea of a limit on userspace edits per day, but I think the limit should be fixed at some value for X. The idea of credits just doesn't jive with me. I mean, I just spent what must have been an hour working on a page, and the net change was -33 characters (because I was replacing links with templates, and so on). So how many credits would I get for a significant amount of toil? And how would you implement that, anyway? It seems like it'd be much easier to set X at three or four, rather than having to keep track of how many "credits" that user had.

Oh, and because I'm petty, I'd also like to add that I'm not arguing for my sake here. I have edited my userspace in the past, but I'm not likely to do it much even after we're allowed to again, so whatever X is shouldn't affect me much. --Martonimos^Talk 04:16, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

So the userpages are back???

-swears- Damn, I was hoping I won't have to go through the trouble of digging through my userpages just to stick a 'delete' notice on them...Optimatum♏^Talk|♊08:55 4 Apr 2008

Except they're apparently locked from editing. That and for some reason, the <references /> template on mine won't work.--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 12:45, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

It's working now, no? Optimatum♏^Talk|♊09:15 6 Apr 2008

Of course they're still locked... But people go look at them longingly... meaning the server still is stressed. Anyway, the frequency with which I edit my userpage (not way back when, I mean now) is what everyone should strive for. TTEchidna 10:14, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Huh? Yeah... I think it's much easier to edit, but I haven't been editting... shame really, I hate lack of access to my laptop, and using a PSP to edit Bulbapedia is like trying to mow a feild with a pair of scissors.... possible, but time consuming. TESHIGIGAS 12:34, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Accessing Bulbapedia with a PSP is already less then enjoyable, IMO. I mean, if I need to look up a Pokémon entry while I'm playing Pearl in my bed, then I grab my PSP, but aside from that, I can't imagine trying to do regular edits with the PSP browser... -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 02:34, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Lol, I have my laptop back now anyway, so I can edit normally again. Yeah a PSP browser is ok for looking up entries but is errible for editting XD. But then again, it's easier than editting on a DS XD Lol. TESHIGIGAS 12:08, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

what is your problem????

I can't edit my own page anymore you messed up peeps! I need to change my new sinnoh accomplishments, and write in my friend code, and maybe even finish pokesanity version 1, but no! You guys are all, "Oh my! People troll userspaces! Let's ban editing them! for good!" What about the users themselves? I don't know about anyone else, but personally I'm just saying, "What the heck is going on?" -11manafreak7

First off Calm down, the reason behind the TEMPORARY BAN is because the server was being overloaded with so many userspace edits that nothing on the main space was getting done. The admins are working on the problem right now. Just have patience. Boywonder01 11:52, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

And don't leave such huge gaps... you can put your signature on the end of your comment. No user page editing isn't the end of the world... TESHIGIGAS 13:05, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Maybe this will help you cool down a little. --Posted by Deadlymethane at 14:58, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

ROFL... XD TESHIGIGAS 13:20, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

New Games!!!

Did you see the new possible game names and the release date for the name? Soon, we'll know (& then maybe GSDS?) -Theininen 01:28, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Hooray! More speculation! That's just what Bulbapedia needs. :-D --Posted by Deadlymethane at 20:06, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, totally exciting, I'm literally jumping for joy XD. Though all Generation V needs is Evolutions of previous Pokémon, just like Generation IV did. Oh and pre-Evolutions too. Then Farfetch'd won't be so farfetched anymore... XD Lol! TESHIGIGAS 11:40, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Lol. --Posted by Deadlymethane at 11:53, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Images

I was thinking about adding a few pics to some of the Friend Areas. The help files were a bit shaky on this, but I should probably upload the images to Bulbagarden, yes? -- Bug Catcher Jam 23:02, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Yup. Just click the "Upload file" link in the toolbox on the left of each page, and you're there. Keep in mind, though, that the 'pedia and the archives are separate branches of Bulbagarden, so you'll have to create a new account on the Archives before you can upload anything. --Martonimos_((Talk)) 23:12, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Ah, thank you. -- Chris 23:14, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

User pages

Isn't there a way that you can only permit 10 edits a day on user pages so this problem can be resolved? --☆ケンジガール 06:00, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

I agree. It's been a month! YinYang 06:39, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

The main problem being, there's no way to physically limit the number of edits per day, let alone to a specific namespace (as far as I've been able to dig up on MediaWiki). The limit would most likely need to be a policy, and in that case, would be extremely hard to enforce. At the very least though, I believe a message can be added to the edit screen on certain namespaces (User:, in this case), telling users to remember to use the Show Preview button, and keep total edits per day to about five (although technically, if you need to update your userpage more then twice a day, you're using it too much as it is).

I assume it's just a few admins working on the details... but perhaps, if it's proving to be difficult to figure out, a page for suggestions could be set up (or a forum thread). I'm sure there's more then enough users here that could figure out a basic plan, at the least. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 07:19, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

We had a problem like this on Super Mario Wiki. We solved it by creating a Userpedia, a place for member to spam their happy little fancruft hearts out and limit the content of the main wikis userspace to general information. Even while we don't always enforce this, things are still under a reasonable amount of control. -- Chris201 18:46, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

You know, many MANY other wikis allow userspace. And it works, there isn't really a big problem with it. What makes this wiki different? I just want to know. Noname

I haven't been here long, but from what I gather, people were spending more time editing userspace than actual wiki content (which is the purpose of the wiki). -- Chris201 21:10, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

It's because many people were signing up for this wiki for the main or sole purpose of using the userspace as something along the lines of a blog, Myspace, or gaming center. As such, userspace edits started to constitute the majority of this wiki's edits, and people using signature templates and then changing them started to bog down the server.

To alleviate the solution, userspace editing to anyone without sysop powers has been blocked, and a new signature policy has been drafted that forbids the usage of signature templates. Many of the powers-that-be are working on a solution to try to curb the amount of userspace edits upon the lifting of the userspace ban. Note that the only current sysop who's ever found themselves unable to edit userpages under the current conditions is the most recently-appointed one, Jioruji Derako; yours truly, the second-most recently-appointed one, was given the powers shortly before the userspace ban fell into place. --Shiningpikablu252 21:10, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, technically, at first, Zhen made it so no one could... which even excluded him and the rest of us. Wouldn't be very good if we needed to do something about someone's page. But look at how often we're editing our pages. Very sparingly. Very. It's more or less on a need-to basis. TTEchidna 04:20, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

I generally only take an edit or two to completely redesign my page, on such rare occasions. Do all the editing in the "Show Preview" window, and you won't ever clog up RC. And I tend not to keep anything that needs updating on my page (I currently list off some Pokémon teams, but even when userspace editing was on, I only updated levels every so often).

It's just so easy to make a beautiful userspage, then let it be. I see no problem with users who spend a lot of time making their userpages... but the problem arises when they don't ever "finish" the page. Spend a day making your page pretty, then get back to editing. Not the other way around. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 04:38, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

On march 24th, this was posted:

Due to an overwhelmingly large amount of edits going on in the User: namespace, we have disabled edits to all pages within it for the time being. We are monitoring how much the lack of ability to edit personal pages will affect the server, and when the results come in, we will make a decision on what to do.

If you feel the need to create a userpage or edit it now, you will have to wait. Do not create a page in the main namespace to move to the User: namespace under any circumstances. The results will likely be conclusive after about a week, and you will be informed with another message from the editor about the return of functionality.

Additionally, a policy on signatures is being discussed on the Bulbapedia forum on BMGf, so please, take a look at it even if you are not a member, as it may affect you.

They've had a month to get the results. That not long enough? 折り紙ガイ - 離す貢献 10:47, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Like, dude...If you stopped asking, you'd think they'd let you back. THink about it: They let the userpages open and then...EVERYONE RUSHES TO EDIT THEIR PAGES. Optimatum^Talk|Links27 Apr 2008

Err, with that argument they could keep it off forever. Anyway, some people use show preveiw and some people don't, but preventing userspace edits is a temporary measure at best. This is a community-driven wiki (says so at the top), and you can't expect people to use the forums for everything. Noname I'll shut up now.

This is a community-driven encyclopedia. Anything beyond that is an extra. --FabuVinny ^{|Talk Page|} 15:23, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

You know, you should pobably post a new notice on the main page about the extended block of user pages, just to make it clear that the block is not over and will not be over soonUser:Darth Cookie Monster 15:35, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

It's an encyclopedia, but they key phrase here is "community-driven". People don't just join to edit their userpages, but you shouldn't get rid of it entirly just to motivate them to edit the mainspace. And why exactly won't it be over soon? What can be gained by keeping it off even longer? Noname It's not like userpaes are the lifeblood of people here, but it is certainly a nice feature. As I said before, lot's of wikis allow userspaces, and it's not a really big deal.

it becomes a big deal when there are so many user-space edits, it slows down the server. -- MAGNEDETH 18:14, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Since WHEN

Since when are people allowed to make user accounts after Pokemon names!! What if someone searchs a pokemon, spells it wrong, and clicks on the USERS NAME INSTEAD OF THE ARTICLE!!!!!!You could get completely wrong information!!!!!!!!21:08, 26 April 2008 (UTC)- unsigned comment from Darth Cookie Monster (talk • contribs)

The userpages go like this: User:(username here). They wouldn't get usernames on disambiguation pages!--KukiTalk 21:15, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Additionally, the searcher would have to be registered, logged in, and have "User" (that is, the real "User" space, not the JohnnyRebel-inspired prank space) checked under "Search in these namespaces by default" in the Search tab in their Preferences. Since the search function defaults to only the mainspace, there's very little risk of hitting a userpage when searching for a Pokémon. --Shiningpikablu252 21:18, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

id like to jump in express my displeasure for people naming themselves directly after pokemon. but, i dont see it as a real serious issue, just a pain. get some originality people! -- MAGNEDETH 00:44, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

A note: Fricking Bulbabot created user Bulbasaur...Optimatum^Talk|Links27 Apr 2008

Why?User:Darth Cookie Monster 01:15, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

this site is based off Bulbasaur, so, it presumably wanted to create someone with that name to prevent it. i think the bot needs to create users of all the pokemon. -- MAGNEDETH 01:20, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Um, Bulbabot creates all users. TTEchidna 04:14, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Help building a community

I'm an admin on a James Bond wiki (I won't give the link unless I'm allowed as I don't intend to spam) and it looks like you guys have a very strong, large community here. This is definitely one of the better independent wikis out there from what I've seen of it. I'm just wondering if someone can tell me how you guys got to be so good, and if you can give me any advice on building a wiki community. Thanks :)--Cleanup man 17:22, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

well, i cant speak on behalf of the entire community, but i can say that having the utmost amount of information is a great way to become noticeable. organization, and attention to detail also help quite a bit. im quite a Bond fan myself, id like to see your wiki. send me a link on my talk page. -- MAGNEDETH 17:33, 27 April 2008 (UTC)