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Should contests categories use type colors? Page [1] uses its own colors.--Rocket Grunt (Report To Me) 09:56, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

Some color changes for the future

For some time, the colors for Red, Green, and Blue have been a bit of a strain eyes due to how saturated they are. In the near future, the color scheme for these three will be changed to be easier for people to look at when reading various pages.

Current colors used:

Red color light	E77E66	{{Red color light}}
Red color	DA3914	{{Red color}}
Red color dark	8E250D	{{Red color dark}}
Green color light	71C671	{{Green color light}}
Green color	24A724	{{Green color}}
Green color dark	176D17	{{Green color dark}}
Blue color light	778DE6	{{Blue color light}}
Blue color	2E50D8	{{Blue color}}
Blue color dark	1E348C	{{Blue color dark}}

New proposed colors to make reading of various templates and galleries easier:

  Light Blue - 768de5  
  Blue - 2e50d8  
  Dark Blue - 1d348c  

  Light Green - 70c670  
  Green - 24a724  
  Dark Green - 176d17  

  Light Red - ef737d  
  Red - e72838  
  Dark Red - 961a24  

If anyone has other suggestions, I am open to them.

Also, any other core series game colors needing changes should be proposed here to help keep track of everything easier. Thank you~ Frozen Fennec 03:58, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

This sounds good, theres a few other colour templates that I would like to bring forth for consideration and input:

• Type colours: currently theses are based on Gen 3 games (with Fairy being its own invention); these dont really line up to the modern game very well as such I would suggest we change them to be in line with what is used in Scarlet and Violet. What this would look like can be seen here.
• Stat colours are currently based on our type colours, these could be adjusted to use the mint/feather colours
• TCG: I would suggest a few changes here:
  • {{TCG Supporter color}} I would change from red to orange, to better match the ingame cards (fellow EP wikis 52 pokéwiki and WikiDex also use orange)
  • {{Tcg fighting color}} Since the proposed change would likely clash with the fighing colour, I would make this more brown (also to better match the colour on the cards)
  • {{Tcg darkness color}} We have issues with this template because of how dark it is, it contrasts poorly with text, can be lighened up and be given a blue tint as on the cards.
  • {{TCG ACE SPEC color}} This template was recently created, and is functionally unused, it also doesnt follow the criteria for what we normally would make a TCG color template for, as such I would delete/archive it.
• FR/LG colours could also get an update to be less saturated
• Colours for the DLC expansions would be a good addition (Isle of Armour / Crown Tundra / Teal Mask / Indigo Disk) would be a welcome addition.

Think I got everything, if anyone has other colours feel free to add. 4iamking 08:00, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

Just to mention, {{Tcg metal color}} has come up as another colour to reevaluate (currently quite brown comparted to what it should be), I think a general evaluation of all TCG colours is in order. 4iamking 16:02, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Desaturating these colours seems like a very good idea; especially the "blue color", which can be very jarring. A general review of our colours to see if they still match the current ones used by TPC would be a good idea, as 4iamking mentioned. I also agree that we should have proper colour templates for the DLC, rather than reusing other colour templates. - bthrussellUK (talk) 09:25, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

One other thing I wanted to highlight is just general consistancy in names as well, the fact that we capitalize the names of some TCG templates and others not makes them somewhat confusing to use. 4iamking 10:39, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

I support the updates to the RGB and type colors. Landfish7 18:35, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

RGB colors have been updated. Type colors, and TCG colors above, if possible, will be taking care of in the days ahead when I can. One think I would like to add as being looked at is the Physical Attack colors since they seem to run into similar issues as Red with the Red and Orange color combo being a bit of an eye strain honestly. Any suggestions on how to improve them? Frozen Fennec 06:40, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

For Physical Attack, I don't think there is any need for the text colour to be orange. It should be white to ensure there is enough contrast and maintain readability. - bthrussellUK (talk) 07:59, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

More color proposals from Discord

DLC's

Decided on Discord, makes sure none of the game colors overlap. Using various official sources. SwSh DLC's will need to be created, SV DLC's only exist as redirects.

  Isle of Armor color light - FDE060  
  Isle of Armor color - FCD00B  
  Isle of Armor color dark - A48707  

  Crown Tundra color light - 66CA9C  
  Crown Tundra color - 15AE68  
  Crown Tundra color dark - 0D7143  

  Teal Mask color light - 59C3BB  
  Teal Mask color - 00A398  
  Teal Mask color dark - 006A62  

  Indigo Disk color light - 5987A7  
  Indigo Disk color - 004878  
  Indigo Disk color dark - 002E4E  

Stats

Using feather and mint colors, stat colors otherwise are all over the place. The original colors were just randomly selected type colors, somehow with so many official colors we managed to pick unoficcial ones.

  HP color light - FFE58C  
  HP color - FFD84F  
  HP color dark - A68C33  

  Attack color light - F98785  
  Attack color - F74844  
  Attack color dark - A02E2C  

  Defense color light - 96A4FC  
  Defense color - 5E74FB  
  Defense color dark - 3D4BA3  

  Special Attack color light - 8AE1FF  
  Special Attack color - 4CD1FF  
  Special Attack color dark - 3188A6  

  Special Defense color light - FFA9D3  
  Special Defense color - FF7BBC  
  Special Defense color dark - A6507A  

  Speed color light - 9AD995  
  Speed color - 64C55D  
  Speed color dark - 41803C  

An alternative, darker color has been suggested for HP. It is from the HP Candy from LGPE. Oneofthosedf (talk) (contribs) 21:10, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

  HP color light - FFDE83  

  HP color - FFCD41  

  HP color dark - A6852A  

Alternative scheme below, based from colours in XY, which coincidentally were the only mainline game to assign colours to the stats. Given that the ingame colours are very chalky, I used the game colours for the light colour, to base the midtone and dark colour off of, I think this scheme works really well with our templates as well. 4iamking 21:54, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

  HP light - 77F296 (XY Color)    HP light - A7F7BB  

  HP - 2EEB5D    HP - 77F296 (XY Color)  

  HP dark - 1E993D    HP dark - 4D9D62  

  Attack light - F4E486 (XY Color)    Attack light - F8EDB0  

  Attack - EED545    Attack - F4E486 (XY Color)  

  Attack dark - 9B8B2D    Attack dark - 9F9457  

  Defense light - FEB17A (XY Color)    Defense light - FECCA9  

  Defense - FD8732    Defense - FEB17A (XY Color)  

  Defense dark - A55821    Defense dark - A5734F  

  Special Attack light - 88DEE2 (XY Color)    Special Attack light - B2EAEC  

  Special Attack - 48CCD2    Special Attack - 88DEE2 (XY Color)  

  Special Attack dark - 2F8589    Special Attack dark - 589093  

  Special Defense light - 859FFF (XY Color)    Special Defense light - B0C1FF  

  Special Defense - 436BFF    Special Defense - 859FFF (XY Color)  

  Special Defense dark - 2C46A6    Special Defense dark - 5667A6  

  Speed light - D880FF (XY Color)    Speed light - E6ACFF  

  Speed - C33CFF    Speed - D880FF (XY Color)  

  Speed dark - 7F27A6    Speed dark - 8C53A6  

The games have had persistent stat colors since Gen III. glik^glak 11:06, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

No, if you base the decision off stat boosting items, the colour palette you end up with will be all over the place depending on what set of items you choose: I feel your already making one proxy collection just linking a stat to an item, but the lack of consistancy makes this evident. 4iamking 11:11, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

Vitamins' colors? I don't like them because Defense and Sp. Def would be both represented by green in this case. --C.Ezra.M (talk | contribs) 11:14, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

I agree its 2 reds (or well a red+orange), 2 blues; 2 greens in that case, the other green being SPE not SPD. The other thing to keep in mind is items are known for their sprites not changing after the item is introduced and they dont always match, when we know the colour... I.e. the Draco Plate is red despite the type more being associated with deep blues and occasionally yellow-gold as in the TCG. Finally just if anyone wanted to see it, heres the two proposed schemes in action. 4iamking 11:57, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

A chart featuring every instance the franchise associated stats with colors. [2]

We were using this on Discord. There is no right answer here, but I believe basing our colors off of mints and feathers is more right than the rest. Feathers have been using the colors since Gen V, and GF made a conscious decision to model the mints after them in SwSh, when they could have just continued using the LGPE colors. There are now two VGC-hosting mainline games that have two sets of stat boosting items (nature changing is stat boost) that align in color. Mints have become frequently used, so it's fair to say users would have an easier time associating their colors with the stats than the darkened versions of a few pixels from an 11-year-old game. In short, the feather/mint colors are official, recent, current, and consistent. There are further issues with using the XY colors other than the fact that they were abandoned by the next game in the same generation: it's the only time Attack is yellow, Sp. Defense is blue and Speed is purple. The mints and feathers use colors that have been used elsewhere, with the exception of Sp. Defense, which is just all over the place, but Attack, Defense, Sp. Attack and Speed all use colors that have been assigned to them prior in the series. Oneofthosedf (talk) (contribs) 12:36, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

(resetting indent)You've mixed up the vitamin colors there. And I should've clarified, I was referring to the caps of the vitamins, they're the much more prominent color on their sprites and are actually distinct. glik^glak 12:56, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

I still don't want the vitamin cap colors because the Sp. Atk and Sp. Def colors would be just very similar shades of orange. --C.Ezra.M (talk | contribs) 13:01, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

That's orange and light brown. And saturation adjustments have to happen regardless. glik^glak 13:09, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

Changing gears a bit, the game mechanic that is HP has always been green. glik^glak 13:30, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

Just to bring the current developments from the Discord chat to the wiki, the XY colours are also used in Masters EX to reprent the stats themselves on stat screens and thus can be directly attributed to the stat itself rather than just being the colour of an item that affects the stats in some way. I think right now this palette is the front running solution though it can still be tweaked based on feedback and testing in real use situations. 4iamking 17:50, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

Added the palette using XY colours as midtones colours for comparison sake, use cases would need to be checked but I do not believe it to be advisable. 4iamking 01:02, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

What was the reasoning behind changing them in the first place? The new colors are kinda jarring (and a bit garish on fire type pages specifically, they clash really bad with the (also newish) red) considering how long the old colors were in use, regardless of how arbitrary they may have been. Stat colors used in one game from several generations ago are barely less arbitrary than what's been in use for years, though. Inco (talk) 08:11, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

The stat colours are also appearing in the current generation in Masters EX, and are they only colours they have been officially associated with in a way that doesnt involve making a proxy connection (like associating to a stat affecting item). Additionally this change puts us in line with the majority of other Encyclopædiæ Pokémonis wiki's who have used the official colours long before us. 4iamking 13:23, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Move categories

More recent colors.

  Physical color light - F19073  
  Physical color - EB5628         Physical textcolor - FFF064  
  Physical color dark - 98371A  

  Special color light - 899CE2  
  Special color - 4B68D3         Special textcolor - 91E1E1  
  Special color dark - 304389  

  Status color light - ADADAD  
  Status color - 828282         Status textcolor - EAEAE5  
  Status color dark - 545454  

Posting more soon. Oneofthosedf (talk) (contribs) 20:40, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

Changed the text color so you can see how it interacts with the backgrounds. The Physical textcolor template is a big improvement on what we have currently. However the readability of Special color light and the textcolor may be challenging. - bthrussellUK (talk) 19:03, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Changing the Special and Status text colors isn't really a big deal. We can make them brighter and nobody would even notice they are different from the games thanks to the limits of how our eyes perceive thin lines inside chunks of solid color.

  Special textcolor - 91E1E1  

  Special textcolor - 96E8E8  

  Special textcolor - 9DF2F2  

  Status textcolor - EAEAE5  

  Status textcolor - F2F2ED  

Oneofthosedf (talk) (contribs) 01:13, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

Pockets

The light and dark colors need alteration because they were taken from the game as is rather than being determined by our method, which causes issues, such as light and mid colors being almost idential or light and dark colors being totally different.

  Apricorn color light - F5C168  
  Apricorn color - current color, not changing  
  Apricorn color dark - 9C680F  

  Battle items color light - 78A1EA  
  Battle items color - current color, not changing  
  Battle items color dark - 1F4891  

  Berries color light - 6DC187  
  Berries color - current color, not changing  
  Berries color dark - 14682E  

  Cologne color light - D2CCDB  
  Cologne color - current color, not changing  
  Cologne color dark - 797382  

  Ingredients color light - C98262  
  Ingredients color - current color, not changing  
  Ingredients color dark - 702909  

  Items color light - DB9CB6  
  Items color - current color, not changing  
  Items color dark - 82435D  

  Key items color light - B687E5  
  Key items color - current color, not changing  
  Key items color dark - 5D2E8C  

  Mail color light - 68B6CB  
  Mail color - current color, not changing  
  Mail color dark - 0F5D72  

  Medicine color light - EAA17D  
  Medicine color - current color, not changing  
  Medicine color dark - 914824  

  Poké Balls color light - DBB16D  
  Poké Balls color - current color, not changing  
  Poké Balls color dark - 825814  

  TMs and HMs color light - ACC66D  
  TMs and HMs color - current color, not changing  
  TMs and HMs color dark - 536D14  

  Treasures color light - F6DA8B  
  Treasures color - current color, not changing  
  Treasures color dark - 9D8132  

  Z-Crystals color light - CEB289  
  Z-Crystals color - current color, not changing  
  Z-Crystals color dark - 755930  

Oneofthosedf (talk) (contribs) 20:52, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

I've added in the current middle colors to make it easier to see how the new colors work. I think these are all positive changes, and are an improvement on what we currently have. - bthrussellUK (talk) 18:50, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Egg group colors

Time to make proper egg group color templates with light and dark variants, the hex codes of which are used on the individual pages already. This would also allow us to use the colors in infoboxes, the Poké Maniac page is a good candidate. I suggest using the word "egg" for all of these templates as to differentiate between the five egg groups that are also types (Dragon, Bug, Grass, Fairy, Flying). The few templates that use these colors, like the move entry templates, would only need to have the word "egg" added twice in the right positions. Doing this will allow us to tweak the colors (since they are fan made) or change them if they ever get official ones.

The suggestion consists of several moves, color changes, and creation of new templates, but it's been a long time coming. It's all very reasonable.

  Monster egg color light - E18D9A  
  Monster egg color - D25064  
  Monster egg color dark - 883441  

  Water 1 egg color light - BBCEFD  
  Water 1 egg color - 97B5FD  
  Water 1 egg color dark - 6275A4  

  Water 2 egg color light - A3BDFB  
  Water 2 egg color - 729AFA  
  Water 2 egg color dark - 4A64A2  

  Water 3 egg color light - 92A5D4  
  Water 3 egg color - 5876BE  
  Water 3 egg color dark - 394C7B  

  Bug egg color light - C7D774  
  Bug egg color - AAC22A  
  Bug egg color dark - 6E7E1B  

  Flying egg color light - CCBDFB  
  Flying egg color - B29AFA  
  Flying egg color dark - 7364A2  

  Field egg color light - EAD59C  
  Field egg color - E0C068  
  Field egg color dark - 917C43  

  Fairy egg color light - F3BCC8  
  Fairy egg color - EE99AC  
  Fairy egg color dark - 9A636F  

  Grass egg color light - ADE193  
  Grass egg color - 82D25A  
  Grass egg color dark - 54883A  

  Human-Like egg color light - E1BAAD  
  Human-Like egg color - D29682  
  Human-Like egg color dark - 886154  

  Mineral egg color light - A8988E  
  Mineral egg color - 7A6252  
  Mineral egg color dark - 4F3F35  

  Amorphous egg color light - B2B2B2  
  Amorphous egg color - 8A8A8A  
  Amorphous egg color dark - 595959  

  Ditto egg color light - C59AD5  
  Ditto egg color - A664BF  
  Ditto egg color dark - 6C417C  

  Dragon egg color light - A883FF  
  Dragon egg color - 7A42FF  
  Dragon egg color dark - 4F2AA6  

  No Eggs Discovered egg color light - 7A7A7A  
  No Eggs Discovered egg color - 333333  
  No Eggs Discovered egg color dark - 212121  

Oneofthosedf (talk) (contribs) 21:21, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

An alternative naming scheme was suggested: (Egg "Egg Group" color) similar to (TCG Fire color) Oneofthosedf (talk) (contribs) 21:42, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

New TCG colors

More from Discord. Color revamp similar to the main types. Type colors are taken from page 4 of this: https://www.pokemon.com/static-assets/content-assets/cms2/pdf/trading-card-game/rulebook/par_rulebook_en.pdf

Metal is a darkened version of the icon from page 3 of this https://www.pokemon.com/static-assets/content-assets/cms2/pdf/trading-card-game/tcg-alternative-play-handbook-en.pdf

Item, Tool, and Supporter are color picked from the cards' text, Stadium was lightened not to cause confusion with TCG Grass.

TCG Ability takes the old color of TCG Supporter, it's very similar in color to TCG Fire, but the two colors won't interact.

  TCG Colorless color light - E2E0E0  
  TCG Colorless color - D2D0CF  
  TCG Colorless color dark - 898787  

  TCG Darkness color light - 78A9B1  
  TCG Darkness color - 2F7A87  
  TCG Darkness color dark - 1F4F58  

  TCG Dragon color light - BEBA77  
  TCG Dragon color - 9B952D  
  TCG Dragon color dark - 65611D  

  TCG Fairy color light - EE8BB4  
  TCG Fairy color - E54C8B  
  TCG Fairy color dark - 95315A  

  TCG Fighting color light - D89E78  
  TCG Fighting color - C3692F  
  TCG Fighting color dark - 7F441F  

  TCG Fire color light - E07384  
  TCG Fire color - D02742  
  TCG Fire color dark - 87192B  

  TCG Grass color light - 62CC8A  
  TCG Grass color - 0DB14B  
  TCG Grass color dark - 087331  

  TCG Lightning color light - FFE359  
  TCG Lightning color - FFD400  
  TCG Lightning color dark - A68A00  

  TCG Metal color light - BEC0B4  
  TCG Metal color - 9B9E8C  
  TCG Metal color dark - 65675B  

  TCG Psychic color light - BFB0D5  
  TCG Psychic color - 9D85BE  
  TCG Psychic color dark - 66567C  

  TCG Water color light - 59CCF2  
  TCG Water color - 00B1EB  
  TCG Water color dark - 007399  

  TCG Item color light - 5BA4D6  
  TCG Item color - 0273C0  
  TCG Item color dark - 014B7D  

  TCG Pokémon Tool color light - A394C5  
  TCG Pokémon Tool color - 725BA6  
  TCG Pokémon Tool color dark - 4A3B6C  

  TCG Supporter color light - F09270  
  TCG Supporter color - E85823  
  TCG Supporter color dark - 973917  

  TCG Stadium color light - 97DB84  
  TCG Stadium color - 5FC741  
  TCG Stadium color dark - 3E812A  

  TCG Ability color light - E86F6F  
  TCG Ability color - DC2222  
  TCG Ability color dark - 8F1616  

Oneofthosedf (talk) (contribs) 23:50, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Just to add, {{Tcg colorless color}} would not change and stay as it currently is, if we used the colours from the sources above we would derive at something that is even closer to white than the current template, and therefore this is not desired. Otherwise I wanted to say (though as an involved party) that I support these changes. 4iamking 00:02, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

  Rulebook TCG Colorless color light - E4E3E5    Alternative Play TCG Colorless color light - E2E0E0  

  Rulebook TCG Colorless color - D6D4D7    Alternative Play TCG Colorless color - D2D0CF  

  Rulebook TCG Colorless color dark - 8B8A8C    Alternative Play TCG Colorless color dark - 898787  

  TCG Rulebook Darkness color light - 78A9B1    TCG Alternative Play Darkness color light - 77A2A7  

  TCG Rulebook Darkness color - 2F7A87    TCG Alternative Play Darkness color - 2E7077  

  TCG Rulebook Darkness color dark - 1F4F58    TCG Alternative Play Darkness color dark - 1E494D  

  TCG Rulebook Dragon color light - BEBA77    TCG Alternative Play Dragon color light - B9B679  

  TCG Rulebook Dragon color - 9B952D    TCG Alternative Play Dragon color - 948F31  

  TCG Rulebook Dragon color dark - 65611D    TCG Alternative Play Dragon color dark - 605D20  

  TCG Rulebook Fairy color light - EE8BB4    TCG Alternative Play Fairy color light - E486AB  

  TCG Rulebook Fairy color - E54C8B    TCG Alternative Play Fairy color - D6457E  

  TCG Rulebook Fairy color dark - 95315A    TCG Alternative Play Fairy color dark - 8B2D52  

  TCG Rulebook Fighting color light - D89E78    TCG Alternative Play Fighting color light - CC997A  

  TCG Rulebook Fighting color - C3692F    TCG Alternative Play Fighting color - B16232  

  TCG Rulebook Fighting color dark - 7F441F    TCG Alternative Play Fighting color dark - 734021  

  TCG Rulebook Fire color light - E07384    TCG Alternative Play Fire color light - E66F80  

  TCG Rulebook Fire color - D02742    TCG Alternative Play Fire color - D8223B  

  TCG Rulebook Fire color dark - 87192B    TCG Alternative Play Fire color dark - 8C1626  

  TCG Rulebook Grass color light - 62CC8A    TCG Alternative Play Grass color light - 6AC588  

  TCG Rulebook Grass color - 0DB14B    TCG Alternative Play Grass color - 19A648  

  TCG Rulebook Grass color dark - 087331    TCG Alternative Play Grass color dark - 106C2F  

  TCG Rulebook Lightning color light - FFE359    TCG Alternative Play Lightning color light - FDE06F  

  TCG Rulebook Lightning color - FFD400    TCG Alternative Play Lightning color - FCD021  

  TCG Rulebook Lightning color dark - A68A00    TCG Alternative Play Lightning color dark - A48715  

  Rulebook TCG Metal color light - D0D2C5    Alternative Play TCG Metal color light - BEC0B4  

  Rulebook TCG Metal color - B6BAA6    Alternative Play TCG Metal color - 9B9E8C  

  Rulebook TCG Metal color dark - 76796C    Alternative Play TCG Metal color dark - 65675B  

  TCG Rulebook Psychic color light - BFB0D5    TCG Alternative Play Psychic color light - BAABC8  

  TCG Rulebook Psychic color - 9D85BE    TCG Alternative Play Psychic color - 957DAB  

  TCG Rulebook Psychic color dark - 66567C    TCG Alternative Play Psychic color dark - 61516F  

  TCG Rulebook Water color light - 59CCF2    TCG Alternative Play Water color light - 5DC6E6  

  TCG Rulebook Water color - 00B1EB    TCG Alternative Play Water color - 05A8D9  

  TCG Rulebook Water color dark - 007399    TCG Alternative Play Water color dark - 036D8D  

  Lightened TCG Stadium color light - 97DB84    Regular TCG Stadium color light - 94D282  

  Lightened TCG Stadium color - 5FC741    Regular TCG Stadium color - 5BB93F  

  Lightened TCG Stadium color dark - 3E812A    Regular TCG Stadium color dark - 3B7829  

  DF TCG Supporter color light - F09270   Alt TCG Supporter color light - F5946F  

  DF TCG Supporter color - E85823   Alt TCG Supporter color - F05A22  

  DF TCG Supporter color dark - 973917   Alt TCG Supporter color dark - 9C3B16  

  DF TCG Pokémon Tool color light - A394C5    Alt TCG Pokémon Tool color light - A191C5  

  DF TCG Pokémon Tool color - 725BA6    Alt TCG Pokémon Tool color - 6E56A5  

  DF TCG Pokémon Tool color dark - 4A3B6C    Alt TCG Pokémon Tool color dark - 48386B  

  Supporter TCG Ability color light - E86F6F    Card Text TCG Ability color light - D76468  

  Supporter TCG Ability color - DC2222    Card Text TCG Ability color - C21016  

  Supporter TCG Ability color dark - 8F1616    Card Text TCG Ability color dark - 7E0A0E  

I have come around over {{Tcg colorless color}} and added it to the list, like metal colour using the darker shade from the alternative play guide. I also updated the light/dark in DF's post based on our formula. I added both considered Metal and Colourless options above for comparison sake, if we wanted consistancy we would use rulebook colours but the alternative play manual colours do provide slightly better contrast in certain situations. 4iamking 22:10, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

  Alternative Play TCG Grass color - 19A648    Regular TCG Stadium color - 5BB93F  

Oki slight update, added the rest of the alternative play colours, I would recommend using these as they do match the card checklists. With these colours I think the colour differentiation between grass and the regular stadium colour is enough that we dont need to do any modifications to the stadium colour, as such I would recommending using the origional colour from the card, which I also left above. 4iamking 01:01, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

Contest colors

Contest ribbon colors

I found some ribbon colors that have been used since 2011, but after all this time, they don't have templates. We may have to change that in the future. ThunderBrine (talk) 23:38, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

  Cool Ribbon color light - FF7267  
  Cool Ribbon color - FC3528  
  Cool Ribbon color dark - 940C15  

  Beauty Ribbon color light - 96BCF9  
  Beauty Ribbon color - 6098F8  
  Beauty Ribbon color dark - 233E8C  

  Cute Ribbon color light - F1C8D0  
  Cute Ribbon color - F098A8  
  Cute Ribbon color dark - 913D4D  

  Smart Ribbon color light - CCF4A6  
  Smart Ribbon color - B0F070  
  Smart Ribbon color dark - 43AE2A  

  Tough Ribbon color light - F3E18F  
  Tough Ribbon color - F8D840  
  Tough Ribbon color dark - A28221  

  League Ribbon color light - E77C6B  
  League Ribbon color - E85840  
  League Ribbon color dark - 8E1B1B  

  Memorial Ribbon color light - F7F8C7  
  Memorial Ribbon color - F0F060  
  Memorial Ribbon color dark - 989820  

  Gift Ribbon color light - 8DB4F4  
  Gift Ribbon color - 5585D4  
  Gift Ribbon color dark - 1A4996  

  Other Ribbon color light - D8D8E0  
  Other Ribbon color - B4B4C8  
  Other Ribbon color dark - 8181A9  

Contest condition colors

  Cool color light - FBA595  
  Cool color - F9765D  
  Cool color dark - A24C3C  

  Beautiful color light - 9AD2E8  
  Beautiful color - 65BADC  
  Beautiful color dark - 41798F  

  Cute color light - FFC3CE  
  Cute color - FFA4B4  
  Cute color dark - A66A75  

  Clever color light - BEDF72  
  Clever color - 9CCE27  
  Clever color dark - 658619  

  Tough color light - FEE498  
  Tough color - FED761  
  Tough color dark - A58B3F  

From ORAS. Oneofthosedf (talk) (contribs) 01:19, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

these are based on ORAS, but I think BDSP colours would be better. The other thing with these is the naming needs to be considered, both for this and the condition pages themselves, since it changes in every game. Right now the Clever and Beautiful colour templates need to be moved to match the page. The current colours from gen 6 name the conditions as adjectives, whereas in gen 8 its as a verb (cool vs coolness as an example). 4iamking 17:55, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

  Beauty color light - 99D2E4  

  Beauty color - 62BAD6  

  Beauty color dark - 40798B  

  Cleverness color light - 95D7A9  

  Cleverness color - 5CC27A  

  Cleverness color dark - 3C7E4F  

  Coolness color light - F1A390  

  Coolness color - EA7154  

  Coolness color dark - 984937  

  Cuteness color light - EFADCE  

  Cuteness color - E681B3  

  Cuteness color dark - 965474  

  Toughness color light - EAD675  

  Toughness color - DEC02B  

  Toughness color dark - 907D1C  

  Lighter Contest color light - D5B4EE    Darker Contest color light - AC91CC  

  Lighter Contest color - BE8CE5    Darker Contest color - 8056B0  

  Lighter Contest color dark - 7C5B95    Darker Contest color dark - 533872  

This would be the BDSP colours but im going to preface this by saying its an approximation, as we do not have the assets on the wiki, they probably are a few points off on the colourwheel from the actual game assets. For {{Contest color}}, to give it some differentiation I have two proposals both sourced from BDSP, the first is the background colour of the contest tab in a pokémon's summary screen, the second one is the colour used to highlight the Sheen mechanic, which retains its purple colour from earlier generations. 4iamking 22:51, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Want to add that in addition to these moves I would also suggest we fold Battle frontier colours and Pokéthlon stat colours into these, since they pull from the same coloursheet and it will allow us to reduce or dependance on redundant templates for gimmicks that appeared in 1-2 games. 4iamking 16:45, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Ruby and Sapphire color proposal

While this project for color updates began with a desire to update Red, Green, and Blue; I have recently come to notice another set of games needing their colors updated as it can make links or text a bit hard to read at times.

Current Ruby colors:
  Ruby color light - C15959  
  Ruby color - A00000  
  Ruby color dark - 680000  

Proposed Ruby colors (pulled from JP boxart):
  Ruby color light - E67587  
  Ruby color - D82B47  
  Ruby color dark - 8C1C2E  

Current Sapphire colors:
  Sapphire color light - 5959C1  
  Sapphire color - 0000A0  
  Sapphire color dark - 000068  

Proposed Sapphire colors (pulled from JP boxart):
  Sapphire color light - 858CBD  
  Sapphire color - 434E99  
  Sapphire color dark - 2C3363  

Would love to get feedback on the proposed colors and if there might be a better color set to use for these two games. I have no proposed colors for Emerald since it does not seem to have readability issues. Frozen Fennec 04:23, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

While Emerald doesn't have readability issues, it's awfully similar to the color for Pokémon Green Version, so either changing Emerald to make it more distinct from Green, or changing Green to make it more distinct from Emerald, might not be a bad idea. Landfish7 11:29, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

I think we can wait with Emerald until we know what color we're gonna use for LZA to make sure all the greens are distinct enough. Oneofthosedf (talk) (contribs) 11:34, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

  Ruby color light - DF6F7C  

  Ruby color - CD2236  

  Ruby color dark - 851623  

  Sapphire color light - 818FC6  

  Sapphire color - 3D51A7  

  Sapphire color dark - 28356D  

  Emerald color light - 59BB8F  

  Emerald color - 009652  

  Emerald color dark - 006235  

Im just gonna post my proposal (sourced from japanese logos), I think they work well and Tested for contrast against both white and black text, all fall within the range of 2.9-7.16 so I forsee no issues here. against other game templates the only similarity really is Sapphire against Shadows of Almia colour but given thats a spinoff and not generally put next to each other I think thats fine. otherwise I think this is my recomendation. 4iamking 23:43, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

New colors for the Gen IV games

The original colors we used didn't really have anything to do with the actual games, these are more representative and still distinct. Platinum is actually very often depcited as being gold (in the game, in the TCG, as its game icon, JP logo), but after a lengthy Discord discussion, we ultimately decided to not use gold as to not be confusing. It is a custom color set, but so was the former one. It fits the game and its name better, while not being a radical leap from what users are used to. These new colors were received with unanimous acceptance on Discord, I'm sure users here will enjoy the changes as well. Oneofthosedf (talk) (contribs) 01:07, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Current Diamond colors:
  Diamond color light - C8C8FF  
  Diamond color - AAAAFF  
  Diamond color dark - 6F6FA6  

Proposed Diamond colors (pulled from JP boxart):
  Diamond color light - B6D4F3  
  Diamond color - 90BEED  
  Diamond color dark - 5D7B9A  

Current Pearl colors:
  Pearl color light - FFC8C8  
  Pearl color - FFAAAA  
  Pearl color dark - A66F6F  

Proposed Pearl colors (pulled from JP boxart):
  Pearl color light - E8A9CC  
  Pearl color - DD7CB1  
  Pearl color dark - 8F5073  

Current Platinum colors:
  Platinum color light - BDBDBD  
  Platinum color - 999999  
  Platinum color dark - 646464  

Proposed Platinum colors (added a goldish tint):
  Platinum color light - C1C1B4  
  Platinum color - A0A08D  
  Platinum color dark - 68685B  

Current HeartGold colors:
  HeartGold color light - CFC059  
  HeartGold color - B69E00  
  HeartGold color dark - 766700  

Proposed HeartGold colors (pulled from JP boxart):
  HeartGold color light - F0CE5A  
  HeartGold color - E8B502  
  HeartGold color dark - 977501  

Current SoulSiver colors:
  SoulSiver color light - D6D6EB  
  SoulSiver color - C0C0E1  
  SoulSiver color dark - 7D7D92  

Proposed SoulSiver colors (pulled from JP boxart):
  SoulSiver color light - C7D1DF  
  SoulSiver color - AAB9CF  
  SoulSiver color dark - 6E7886  

These colour changes are now implemented (with the light and dark colours slightly corrected to adjust to our standard). On a personal level, I do feel Platinum is a bit of a missed oppertunity here as I feel we are basicially saying we prefer gray (In my opinion subjectively) and are willing to make an exception for that game and pick a colour that has a different source from the others to meet that need. In my opinion somewhat undermining the purpose of the main goal of the colour overhaul which is to standardise to official sources, and the sources we would use to pick the D/P colours would all suggest platinum be a gold with greyish undertones, similar to the old heart gold colour we used to have (and is also used by our sister Chinese language wiki). Anyway I realise that there are strong feelings attached to that colour and the concensus was not there, but I do feel it important to note what occured with the disccusion, should it ever come up again in the future. 4iamking 15:47, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

More color proposals

These colors come from a handful of sources:

  Gold light - E7C46E    Gold light - F7E870  

  Gold - DAA520    Gold - F3DB37  

  Gold dark - 8E6B15    Gold dark - 9E8E24  

  Silver light - D6D6D6    Silver light - DBDFEC  

  Silver - C0C0C0    Silver - C7CDE2  

  Silver dark - 7D7D7D    Silver dark - 818593  

  Crystal light - 8CE6FF    Crystal light - F8EFFA  

  Crystal - 4FD9FF    Crystal - F4E6F7  

  Crystal dark - 338DA6    Crystal dark - 9F96A1  

  Black 2 light - 848A8D    Black 2 light - B9B8B9  

  Black 2 - 424B50    Black 2 - 949293  

  Black 2 dark - 2B3134    Black 2 dark - 605F60  

  White 2 light - EDDFE0    White 2 light - F1F1F1  

  White 2 - E3CED0    White 2 - E9E9E9  

  White 2 dark - 948687    White 2 dark - 979797  

These colors come from the edges of the text in the JP boxart.

  TCG Fire color light - E66F80    TCG Fire color light - EC98A5  

  TCG Fire color - D8223B    TCG Fire color - E16175  

  TCG Fire color dark - 8C1626    TCG Fire color dark - 923F4C  

  TCG Darkness color light - 77A2A7    TCG Darkness color light - 9EB1B5  

  TCG Darkness color - 2E7077    TCG Darkness color - 6A878D  

  TCG Darkness color dark - 1E494D    TCG Darkness color dark - 45585C  

Pulled from Page 4 of Scarlet & Violet - Paradox Rift rulebook. Frozen Fennec 14:32, 14 May 2024 (UTC)