Talk:Version-exclusive moves
Spider web
With the move spider web, it incorrectly says the move is unobtainable in Heartgold, but it's unobtainable in Soulsilver Stomata (talk) 17:10, 20 June 2012 (UTC)Stomata
Kyurem formes.
Well Ice Burn and Freeze Shock are version-exclusive, but what to do with the fusion moves? I am not sure, so asking. Marked +-+-+ (talk) 14:31, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
Numbers and TM sprites
I think the numbers should be removed, and the TM sprites replaced with types in text. --Abcboy (talk) 02:40, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
Black 2 and White 2
Data for Black 2 and White 2 needs adding. Is it just the same four moves? Digifiend (talk) 12:26, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
Colosseum and XD
Why are these included? Due to the sheer number of unobtainable pokémon, there are probably more moves that are absent than are available. I mean, how do I get a Pokémon with Cut in Colosseum, for example? Yeah. --GoldenSandslash15 (talk) 02:58, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
Events
Do events count or not? Gen III Transform indicates they don't, while Gen VI Luster Purge and Mist Ball indicate they do. --SnorlaxMonster 14:09, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
Sketch
I think this page should take Sketch into account (or at least have a separate "Sketch only" section). In games in which Smeargle is obtainable without trading, if there are Trainers that use version-exclusive moves in locations that Smeargle will retain them via Sketch (i.e. outside of battle facilities), they aren't really version-exclusive. For example, in Emerald the player cannot normally obtain Triple Kick, but they can Sketch it from Brawly's Hitmontop. --SnorlaxMonster 03:48, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
Version-exclusive Z-Moves
Mind Blown, Plasma Fists, Photon Geyser, Light That Burns the Sky, Searing Sunraze Smash, Menacing Moonraze Maelstrom, Let's Snuggle Forever, Splintered Stormshards, and Clangorous Soulblaze are not programmed into Pokémon Sun or Moon. As such, Pokémon which know these moves cannot be traded to Sun or Moon, cannot be used in a link battle against Sun and Moon, and cannot be withdrawn from Pokémon Bank to a copy of Sun or Moon. — Wouldn't it be better and more accurate to rephrase it to instead say "Pokémon holding correspondent Z-Crystals"? A Pokémon can't know a Z-Move in the sense it can know a regular move and having it occupy a slot. What do you all think? Kikugi (talk) 17:29, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
Handling event-exclusive moves and Colo/XD
How do we want to handle these article-wide? I was thinking that this article should use the same conventions as the Version-exclusive Pokémon article, which puts event-exclusive moves in a footnote, and also excludes Colo/XD (specifically because it would cause a bloated list). @User:Tiddlywinks You mention "these tables can be referenced for things like breeding", but breeding isn't possible in Colo/XD and isn't relevant for event-exclusives either. Blueapple128 (talk) 23:45, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
- It's not about breeding in Colo/XD, you can bring a Pokemon in from those games to breed with one of yours. I'm honestly not going to check all the potential Colo/XD parents on this page, but it's very possible some of those would be the only possible breeding parent for some Pokemon/moveset.
- "Event" (exclusive) is kind of obscuring the real point, which is that those are Legendary/Mythical (and can't breed). I didn't really recognize that (if anything I thought that there are certainly plenty of event Pokemon with unique moves, which could be bred). I suppose you're right about that, and the notes you made for those would suffice. Tiddlywinks (talk) 00:02, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
Gen 2 Skull Bash
Would Skull Bash count as being Version-exclusive in Gen 2? The only way to obtain the move is by level up on Squirtle or one of its evolutions. And the only way to obtain a Squirtle is to import one from Gen 1. --GoldenSandslash15 (talk) 15:35, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
- Top of the page: "This also does not include moves of Pokémon who cannot be obtained in-game in any game within the generation" sumwun (talk, contribs) 16:06, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
Deletion?
The subject of the article doesn't seem like very useful information. It would seem like inconsistencies and missed moves would be common. Not to mention only 3 mainspace articles link to this article. (two of which do so in "See Also" sections) This seems more like a trivia page with vague notability. (I won't add the delete tag just yet, as I am looking for input here.) CoolMan6001 (talk) 22:12, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
- This article is useful for some people, namely those hoping to transfer Pokemon. And it doesn't matter if only three mainspace articles link to this article. Is it trivial? sure. That's why this page exists, so the trivia section on the species articles aren't clogged with "This Pokemon is the only one to learn <move> in <game>".--ForceFire 06:06, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
