User:Amiosi/Low-BST Challenge: Difference between revisions
m (Amiosi moved page User:Amiosi/LowBST to User:Amiosi/Low-BST Challenge) |
No edit summary |
||
Line 1: | Line 1: | ||
{{User:Dennou Zenshi/userspace|Anyone may edit this page.}} | {{User:Dennou Zenshi/userspace|Anyone may edit this page.}} | ||
This page is meant as a source of information about low-[[Base stats|base stat]] total challenge runs. The idea or "spirit" of the challenge is to prove the usefulness of very weak fully [[Evolution|evolved]] Pokémon that [[Game Freak|GAME FREAK]] took a good look at and said "Yeah, that's good." While playing through and beating games with these Pokémon, the player main gain an insight into why these species were designed they way they are, and gain greater appreciation for them as a whole. | |||
This page is meant as a source of information about low-[[Base stats|base stat]] total challenge runs. | |||
Information that can be found here includes: | Information that can be found here includes: | ||
Line 13: | Line 9: | ||
* More coming soon... | * More coming soon... | ||
Pokémon that become available after first watching the [[game credits|credits]] roll are not | Pokémon that become available after first watching the [[game credits|credits]] roll are not noted. The sole exception to this is {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}, which have the {{pkmn|battle}} with {{ga|Red}} atop [[Mt. Silver]]. | ||
==Ruleset== | ==Ruleset== | ||
The maximum BST per Pokémon is generally 400, but in games where less than 6 unique Pokémon are available, the limit is adjusted to allow for a full [[party]]. | The maximum BST per Pokémon is generally 400, but in games where less than 6 unique Pokémon are available, the limit is adjusted to allow for a full [[party]]. | ||
Non-fully | Non-fully evolved Pokémon (referred to as NFEs) are banned from the challenge starting in [[Generation V]] due to the [[held item]] [[Eviolite]], which causes them to be much bulkier than other Pokémon with similar BSTs. In earlier [[Generation]]s, the usage of NFEs is up to the the player. Allowing NFEs widens the pool of available Pokémon by a large margin. Additionally, some Pokémon (such as {{p|Kadabra}}) have proven to be extremely powerful despite their low BSTs. Others, such as [[starter Pokémon]], are only available to be used in their first stage, making them an [[experience]] sink that will fall off in the mid-to-late game. | ||
Other Pokémon that are typically banned from the challenge include {{p|Shedinja}} and {{p|Wishiwashi}} due to their [[Ability|Abilities]] {{a|Wonder Guard}} and {{a|Schooling}}, as well as {{p|Ditto}} and {{p|Smeargle}} due to their [[move]]s {{m|Transform}} and {{m|Sketch}}. | Other Pokémon that are typically banned from the challenge include {{p|Shedinja}} and {{p|Wishiwashi}} due to their [[Ability|Abilities]] {{a|Wonder Guard}} and {{a|Schooling}}, as well as {{p|Ditto}} and {{p|Smeargle}} due to their [[move]]s {{m|Transform}} and {{m|Sketch}}. | ||
Line 140: | Line 136: | ||
Tips and strategies: | Tips and strategies: | ||
* Lickitung is the only available Pokémon capable of learning {{m|Surf}} | * Lickitung is the only available Pokémon capable of learning {{m|Surf}} | ||
* Choose {{p|Squirtle}} as a starter Pokémon in order to make the first two battles with {{ga|Blue}} easier | |||
* In [[Mt. Moon]], pick up {{TM|12|Water Gun}} on 1F | * In [[Mt. Moon]], pick up {{TM|12|Water Gun}} on 1F | ||
* On {{rt|24|Kanto}}, pick up {{TM|45|Thunder Wave}} | * On {{rt|24|Kanto}}, pick up {{TM|45|Thunder Wave}} | ||
* On the [[S.S. Anne]], pick up {{TM|08|Body Slam}} on 1F | * On the [[S.S. Anne]], pick up {{TM|08|Body Slam}} on 1F | ||
* | * At the [[Celadon Department Store]], purchase a [[Fresh Water]] and give it to the girl on the roof to receive {{TM|13|Ice Beam}} | ||
** If using Onix, purchase and give her a [[Soda Pop]] to receive {{TM|48|Rock Slide}} | ** If using Onix, purchase and give her a [[Soda Pop]] to receive {{TM|48|Rock Slide}} | ||
** If using Hitmonchan, purchase {{TM|17|Submission}} on 2F | |||
* In the [[Team Rocket Hideout|Rocket Hideout]], pick up {{TM|10|Double-Edge}} on B3F | * In the [[Team Rocket Hideout|Rocket Hideout]], pick up {{TM|10|Double-Edge}} on B3F | ||
* In [[Saffron City]], speak to | * In [[Saffron City]], speak to Mr. Psychic to receive {{TM|29|Psychic}} | ||
* In [[Silph Co.]], pick up {{TM|26|Earthquake}} on 10F | * In [[Silph Co.]], pick up {{TM|26|Earthquake}} on 10F | ||
** If using Lickitung, pick up {{TM|03|Swords Dance}} on 7F | ** If using Lickitung, pick up {{TM|03|Swords Dance}} on 7F | ||
* In the {{OBP|Pokémon Mansion|Kanto}}, pick up {{TM|14|Blizzard}} on B1F | * In the {{OBP|Pokémon Mansion|Kanto}}, pick up {{TM|14|Blizzard}} on B1F | ||
* [[Lorelei]] is difficult, but can be brought down by a combination of a {{m|Thunderbolt}} user, Hitmonlee or Hitmonchan, and | * [[Lorelei]] is difficult, but can be brought down by a combination of a {{m|Thunderbolt}} user, Hitmonlee or Hitmonchan, and a {{m|Mega Drain}} user for cleanup | ||
* [[Bruno]] | * [[Bruno]] and [[Agatha]] are completely swept by Psychic, though Earthquake may come in handy for the latter | ||
* [[Lance]] folds to a BoltBeam user, with Onix's Rock Slide being useful for revenge kills | |||
* [[Lance]] folds to a BoltBeam user | |||
For convenience, these are the NFEs that are over the maximum BST: | For convenience, these are the NFEs that are over the maximum BST: | ||
Line 257: | Line 254: | ||
* An [[HM]] slave is required to use {{m|Waterfall}} | * An [[HM]] slave is required to use {{m|Waterfall}} | ||
* Begin the game on a Thursday to receive a [[Hard Stone]] from [[Week Siblings|Arthur]] on {{rt|36|Johto}} | * Begin the game on a Thursday to receive a [[Hard Stone]] from [[Week Siblings|Arthur]] on {{rt|36|Johto}} | ||
* Choose {{p|Totodile}} as a starter Pokémon in order to make the battle with {{ga|Silver}} in [[Azalea Town]] easier | |||
* Catch an Unown with {{type|Rock}} {{m|Hidden Power}}, and use it with the aforementioned Hard Stone to defeat [[Falkner]] | * Catch an Unown with {{type|Rock}} {{m|Hidden Power}}, and use it with the aforementioned Hard Stone to defeat [[Falkner]] | ||
* On Friday, speak to Frieda on {{rt|32|Johto}} to receive a [[Poison Barb]] | * On Friday, speak to Frieda on {{rt|32|Johto}} to receive a [[Poison Barb]] | ||
* Skip past the two {{tc|Hiker}}s in [[Union Cave]], as well as the one on {{rt|33|Johto}} | |||
* Teach {{p|Ledyba}}/Ledian {{m|Thunder Punch|ThunderPunch}} and {{m|Ice Punch}} via TMs purchased at the [[Goldenrod Department Store]] | * Teach {{p|Ledyba}}/Ledian {{m|Thunder Punch|ThunderPunch}} and {{m|Ice Punch}} via TMs purchased at the [[Goldenrod Department Store]] | ||
* If planning on using Corsola, pick up {{TM|04|Rollout}} on {{rt|35|Johto}} | * If planning on using Corsola, pick up {{TM|04|Rollout}} on {{rt|35|Johto}} | ||
* In the [[National Park]], speak to the {{tc|Teacher}} to receive a [[Quick Claw]], and also pick up {{TM|28|Dig}} | * In the [[National Park]], speak to the {{tc|Teacher}} to receive a [[Quick Claw]], and also pick up {{TM|28|Dig}} | ||
* On Sunday, obtain {{TM|27|Return}} from a woman on 5F of the Goldenrod Department Store, as well as a [[Magnet]] from Sunny on {{rt|37|Johto}} | * On Sunday, obtain {{TM|27|Return}} from a woman on 5F of the Goldenrod Department Store, as well as a [[Magnet]] from Sunny on {{rt|37|Johto}} | ||
* [[Morty]]'s Pokémon (except {{p|Gengar}}) can only damage Aipom with {{m|Curse}} or a move copied | * [[Morty]]'s Pokémon (except {{p|Gengar}}) can only damage Aipom with {{m|Curse}} or a move copied by {{m|Mimic}} | ||
* At the [[Lake of Rage]], speak to the man in the northwestern house to receive {{TM|10|Hidden Power}} | * At the [[Lake of Rage]], speak to the man in the northwestern house to receive {{TM|10|Hidden Power}} | ||
* After clearing out [[Team Rocket HQ|Team Rocket's Hideout]], speak to the guard in the [[gate]] on {{rt|43|Johto}} to receive {{TM|36|Sludge Bomb}} | * After clearing out [[Team Rocket HQ|Team Rocket's Hideout]], speak to the guard in the [[gate]] on {{rt|43|Johto}} to receive {{TM|36|Sludge Bomb}} | ||
Line 368: | Line 367: | ||
The recommended game for this set is {{color|{{ruby color}}|Ruby}}. The reasoning is as follows: | The recommended game for this set is {{color|{{ruby color}}|Ruby}}. The reasoning is as follows: | ||
* Mawile | * Both Roseila and Mawile are available, with the latter appearing earlier than in Emerald | ||
** {{a|Intimidate}} is extremely useful, outweighing Sableye's excellent typing | ** {{a|Intimidate}} is extremely useful, outweighing Sableye's excellent typing | ||
* [[Tate and Liza]] are near-insurmountable in Emerald due to their {{p|Claydol}}'s {{m|Earthquake}} | * [[Tate and Liza]] are near-insurmountable in Emerald due to their {{p|Claydol}}'s {{m|Earthquake}} | ||
* | |||
Tips and strategies: | |||
* Watch this video lol | |||
{{YouTubeEmbed|sqH7uE4Sta4|channel/@FlygonHG|name=FlygonHG|Hoenn}} | |||
==={{pkmn|Colosseum}}=== | ==={{pkmn|Colosseum}}=== | ||
Line 401: | Line 403: | ||
|405 | |405 | ||
|} | |} | ||
Tips and strategies: | |||
* Don't underestimate Plusle, because despite being obtained at a low level, it catches up quickly due to the extra experience gained from being an outsider Pokémon | |||
===[[Kanto]]-based games=== | ===[[Kanto]]-based games=== | ||
Line 561: | Line 566: | ||
|} | |} | ||
The recommended game for this set is {{color|{{platinum color}}|Platinum}}. The reasoning is as follows: | The recommended game for this set is {{color|{{platinum color dark}}|Platinum}}. The reasoning is as follows: | ||
* {{p|Wurmple}} is available earlier | * Move Tutors are available | ||
* {{p|Kricketot}} learns {{m|Bug Bite}} | * {{p|Wurmple}} is available earlier and learns {{m|Bug Bite}}, though it must be kept from evolving until level 15 | ||
* {{TM|27|Return}} is available much earlier | |||
* {{p|Kricketot}} learns {{m|Bug Bite}}, though it must be kept from evolving until level 16 | |||
* Kricketune learns {{m|Slash}} and {{m|Night Slash}} | |||
* Bibarel learns {{m|Curse}} | |||
===[[Johto]]-based games=== | ===[[Johto]]-based games=== | ||
Line 704: | Line 713: | ||
** While Ledian can potentially abuse {{m|Baton Pass}}, Ariados has access to {{m|Night Shade}} and [[priority]] moves | ** While Ledian can potentially abuse {{m|Baton Pass}}, Ariados has access to {{m|Night Shade}} and [[priority]] moves | ||
* Caterpie is available earlier | * Caterpie is available earlier | ||
** Butterfree's Confusion is helpful against [[Proton]], [[Bugsy]], and {{ga|Silver}} in Azalea Town | ** Butterfree's Confusion is helpful against [[Proton]], [[Bugsy]], and Silver in Azalea Town | ||
Tips and strategies: | |||
* Choose {{p|Totodile}} as a starter Pokémon in order to make the battle with {{ga|Silver}} in [[Azalea Town]] easier | |||
==Generation V== | ==Generation V== | ||
Line 815: | Line 827: | ||
|} | |} | ||
The recommended game for this set is {{color|{{white 2 color}}|White 2}}. The reasoning is as follows: | The recommended game for this set is {{color|{{white 2 color dark}}|White 2}}. The reasoning is as follows: | ||
* More Pokémon are available | * More Pokémon are available | ||
* A [[Flame Orb]] can be found in [[Reversal Mountain]] rather than a [[Toxic Orb]] | * A [[Flame Orb]] can be found in [[Reversal Mountain]] rather than a [[Toxic Orb]] | ||
Line 1,108: | Line 1,120: | ||
|} | |} | ||
The recommended game for this set is | The recommended game for this set is {{color|{{Ultra Sun color}}|Ultra Sun}}. The reasoning is as follows: | ||
* More Pokémon are available than in Sun and Moon | * More Pokémon are available than in Sun and Moon | ||
* | * Move Tutors are available | ||
* | * {{TM|08|Bulk Up}}, {{TM|19|Roost}}, {{TM|23|Smack Down}}, {{TM|32|Double Team}}, {{TM|40|Aerial Ace}}, {{TM|51|Steel Wing}}, {{TM|77|Psych Up}}, {{TM|78|Bulldoze}}, and {{TM|79|Frost Breath}} are available earlier than in Sun and Moon | ||
* | ** However, {{TM|55|Scald}}, {{TM|57|Charge Beam}}, {{TM|62|Acrobatics}}, {{TM|65|Shadow Claw}}, {{TM|73|Thunder Wave}}, {{TM|82|Dragon Tail}}, {{TM|84|Poison Jab}}, and {{TM|93|Wild Charge}} are available later than in Sun and Moon | ||
* {{TM|24|Thunderbolt}} is available before postgame | |||
** However, {{TM|75|Swords Dance}} isn't available until postgame | |||
* {{pkmn2|Totem}} {{p|Gumshoos}} serves as a greater challenge than Totem {{rf|Alolan}} Raticate | |||
Tips and strategies: | |||
* Choose {{p|Popplio}} as a starter Pokémon in order to make the battle with [[Ilima]] easier, as his Smeargle will know {{m|Leafage}} | |||
===Kanto-based games=== | ===Kanto-based games=== | ||
Line 1,160: | Line 1,178: | ||
|} | |} | ||
The recommended game for this set is {{color|{{Let's Go Pikachu color}}|Let's Go, Pikachu!}} The reasoning is as follows: | The recommended game for this set is {{color|{{Let's Go Pikachu color dark}}|Let's Go, Pikachu!}} The reasoning is as follows: | ||
* Caterpie is more common in the wild | * Caterpie is more common in the wild | ||
** Butterfree's {{m|Poison Powder}} is more consistent against Brock than Beedrill's Poison Sting | ** Butterfree's {{m|Poison Powder}} is more consistent against Brock than Beedrill's Poison Sting | ||
Line 1,283: | Line 1,301: | ||
* Mawile is available, and earlier than Sableye | * Mawile is available, and earlier than Sableye | ||
** Intimidate is more useful than Sableye's typing | ** Intimidate is more useful than Sableye's typing | ||
* {{TM|42|Revenge}} is available earlier | |||
===Sinnoh-based games=== | ===Sinnoh-based games=== |
Revision as of 16:18, 1 November 2023
Anyone may edit this page. |
This page is meant as a source of information about low-base stat total challenge runs. The idea or "spirit" of the challenge is to prove the usefulness of very weak fully evolved Pokémon that GAME FREAK took a good look at and said "Yeah, that's good." While playing through and beating games with these Pokémon, the player main gain an insight into why these species were designed they way they are, and gain greater appreciation for them as a whole.
Information that can be found here includes:
- Which Pokémon are available to use, when they can be obtained, and the versions they appear in
- Recommended versions to play
- Tips and strategies
- More coming soon...
Pokémon that become available after first watching the credits roll are not noted. The sole exception to this is HeartGold and SoulSilver, which have the battle with Red atop Mt. Silver.
Ruleset
The maximum BST per Pokémon is generally 400, but in games where less than 6 unique Pokémon are available, the limit is adjusted to allow for a full party.
Non-fully evolved Pokémon (referred to as NFEs) are banned from the challenge starting in Generation V due to the held item Eviolite, which causes them to be much bulkier than other Pokémon with similar BSTs. In earlier Generations, the usage of NFEs is up to the the player. Allowing NFEs widens the pool of available Pokémon by a large margin. Additionally, some Pokémon (such as Kadabra) have proven to be extremely powerful despite their low BSTs. Others, such as starter Pokémon, are only available to be used in their first stage, making them an experience sink that will fall off in the mid-to-late game.
Other Pokémon that are typically banned from the challenge include Shedinja and Wishiwashi due to their Abilities Wonder Guard and Schooling, as well as Ditto and Smeargle due to their moves Transform and Sketch.
Mega Stones are banned, due to Mega Evolution increasing all applicable Pokémon's BSTs well above the maximum.
Certain near-universal TMs and Move Tutor moves are potentially banworthy due to allowing any Pokémon to simply rely on luck or the strength of the opponent. Note that this does apply to Pokémon which learn these moves naturally. They are as follows:
Additional rules, such as item restrictions and level caps (often seen in Nuzlockes), can be applied to this challenge as well. If items are allowed, Wobbuffet is banworthy due to HP-restoring items enabling it to counterattack repeatedly.
As with any challenge, it is also reccomended that the game be played in Set mode.
Generation I
The following BSTs are calculated on the modern scale by doubling the Special stat.
Pokémon | BST | Availability | Game(s) | |||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
348 | 1 Badge | R | G | B | Y | |
350 | 0 Badges | R | G | B | Y | |
370 | 2 Badges | R | G | B | Y | |
370 | 2 BadgesJB 3 BadgesRG |
R | G | B | Y | |
375 | 2 Badges | R | G | B | Y | |
375 | 2 Badges | R | G | B | Y | |
385 | 0 Badges | R | G | B | Y | |
385 | 2 Badges | R | G | B | Y | |
393 | 0 Badges | R | G | B | Y | |
395 | 2 Badges | R | G | B | Y | |
400 | 1 Badge | R | G | B | Y |
The recommended game for this set is Green (English Blue). The reasoning is as follows:
- Beedrill and Lickitung are available
- Porygon only costs 6,500 Coins, as opposed to 9,999RY/8,300JB
- Caterpie is more common in the wild than in Red, and can be found at a higher level
- Butterfree's Confusion is more useful against Brock than Beedrill's Poison Sting
Tips and strategies:
- Lickitung is the only available Pokémon capable of learning Surf
- Choose Squirtle as a starter Pokémon in order to make the first two battles with Blue easier
- In Mt. Moon, pick up TM12 (Water Gun) on 1F
- On Route 24, pick up TM45 (Thunder Wave)
- On the S.S. Anne, pick up TM08 (Body Slam) on 1F
- At the Celadon Department Store, purchase a Fresh Water and give it to the girl on the roof to receive TM13 (Ice Beam)
- If using Onix, purchase and give her a Soda Pop to receive TM48 (Rock Slide)
- If using Hitmonchan, purchase TM17 (Submission) on 2F
- In the Rocket Hideout, pick up TM10 (Double-Edge) on B3F
- In Saffron City, speak to Mr. Psychic to receive TM29 (Psychic)
- In Silph Co., pick up TM26 (Earthquake) on 10F
- If using Lickitung, pick up TM03 (Swords Dance) on 7F
- In the Pokémon Mansion, pick up TM14 (Blizzard) on B1F
- Lorelei is difficult, but can be brought down by a combination of a Thunderbolt user, Hitmonlee or Hitmonchan, and a Mega Drain user for cleanup
- Bruno and Agatha are completely swept by Psychic, though Earthquake may come in handy for the latter
- Lance folds to a BoltBeam user, with Onix's Rock Slide being useful for revenge kills
For convenience, these are the NFEs that are over the maximum BST:
Generation II
Pokémon | BST | Availability | Game(s) | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|
330 | 7 Badges | G | S | C | |
336 | 0 Badges | G | S | C | |
352 | 3 Badges | G | S | C | |
360 | 2 Badges | G | S | C | |
380 | 3 Badges | G | S | C | |
385 | 0 BadgesGC 2 BadgesS |
G | S | C | |
385 | 0 BadgesSC 2 BadgesG |
G | S | C | |
385 | 7 Badges | G | S | C | |
390 | 0 Badges | G | S | C | |
390 | 0 Badges | G | S | C | |
390 | 2 Badges | G | S | C |
The recommended game for this set is Crystal. The reasoning is as follows:
- The most Pokémon are available
- Both Caterpie and Weedle are available early
Tips and strategies:
- An HM slave is required to use Waterfall
- Begin the game on a Thursday to receive a Hard Stone from Arthur on Route 36
- Choose Totodile as a starter Pokémon in order to make the battle with Silver in Azalea Town easier
- Catch an Unown with Rock-type Hidden Power, and use it with the aforementioned Hard Stone to defeat Falkner
- On Friday, speak to Frieda on Route 32 to receive a Poison Barb
- Skip past the two Hikers in Union Cave, as well as the one on Route 33
- Teach Ledyba/Ledian ThunderPunch and Ice Punch via TMs purchased at the Goldenrod Department Store
- If planning on using Corsola, pick up TM04 (Rollout) on Route 35
- In the National Park, speak to the Teacher to receive a Quick Claw, and also pick up TM28 (Dig)
- On Sunday, obtain TM27 (Return) from a woman on 5F of the Goldenrod Department Store, as well as a Magnet from Sunny on Route 37
- Morty's Pokémon (except Gengar) can only damage Aipom with Curse or a move copied by Mimic
- At the Lake of Rage, speak to the man in the northwestern house to receive TM10 (Hidden Power)
- After clearing out Team Rocket's Hideout, speak to the guard in the gate on Route 43 to receive TM36 (Sludge Bomb)
- After defeating Team Rocket at the Goldenrod Radio Tower, speak to DJ Mary on 4F to receive a Pink Bow
- Will's Pokémon can easily be defeated by Ledian, with the exception of his Jynx
- Most of Koga's Pokémon are weak to Butterfree's Psybeam, but Crobat's Wing Attack will quickly take it out
- Bruno's Pokémon are also defeated by Butterfree, but Machamp's Rock Slide will OHKO if it hits
- Karen's Gengar can only damage Aipom and Lickitung with Curse
- Give Ledian a PRZCureBerry to hold when fighting Lance to heal from his Dragonite's Thunder Wave
Generation III
Hoenn-based games
Pokémon | BST | Availability | Game(s) | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|
330 | 5 Badges | R | S | E | |
360 | 2 Badges | R | S | E | |
375 | 2 Badges | R | S | E | |
380 | 5 Badges | R | S | E | |
380 | 0 Badges | R | S | E | |
380 | 1 Badge | R | S | E | |
380 | 1 BadgeR 7 BadgesE |
R | S | E | |
385 | 0 Badges | R | S | E | |
385 | 0 Badges | R | S | E | |
400 | 1 Badge | R | S | E | |
400 | 1 Badge | R | S | E | |
400 | 1 Badge | R | S | E |
The recommended game for this set is Ruby. The reasoning is as follows:
- Both Roseila and Mawile are available, with the latter appearing earlier than in Emerald
- Intimidate is extremely useful, outweighing Sableye's excellent typing
- Tate and Liza are near-insurmountable in Emerald due to their Claydol's Earthquake
Tips and strategies:
- Watch this video lol
| |
Colosseum
The maximum BST for this game is 405.
Pokémon | BST |
---|---|
330 | |
360 | |
390 | |
390 | |
390 | |
405 | |
405 |
Tips and strategies:
- Don't underestimate Plusle, because despite being obtained at a low level, it catches up quickly due to the extra experience gained from being an outsider Pokémon
Kanto-based games
The maximum BST for these games is 405.
Pokémon | BST | Availability | Game(s) | |
---|---|---|---|---|
352 | 2 Badges | FR | LG | |
385 | 0 Badges | FR | LG | |
385 | 0 Badges | FR | LG | |
385 | 2 Badges | FR | LG | |
405 | 1 Badge | FR | LG | |
405 | 2 Badges | FR | LG |
The recommended game for this set is FireRed. The reasoning is as follows:
- Lickitung can be obtained by trading a Golduck rather than a Slowbro
- Psyduck requires less grinding/Rare Candies to evolve than Slowpoke
- Caterpie is more common in the wild
- Butterfree's Confusion is more useful against Brock than Beedrill's Poison Sting
XD: Gale of Darkness
Pokémon | BST |
---|---|
352 | |
375 | |
380 | |
380 | |
380 | |
385 | |
385 | |
385 | |
390 | |
390 | |
400 |
Generation IV
Sinnoh-based games
Although the maximum BST for these games is 411, Azumarill and Medicham are not listed due to their Abilities, Huge Power and Pure Power, which effectively make their BSTs 509 and 519, respectively.
Pokémon | BST | Availability | Game(s) | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|
336 | 2 BadgesDP 3 BadgesPt |
D | P | Pt | |
384 | 0 Badges | D | P | Pt | |
385 | 0 BadgesPt 1 BadgeDP |
D | P | Pt | |
385 | 0 BadgesPt 1 BadgeDP |
D | P | Pt | |
405 | 1 Badge | D | P | Pt | |
410 | 2 BadgesP 4 BadgesPt |
D | P | Pt | |
410 | 0 Badges | D | P | Pt | |
411 | 2 Badges | D | P | Pt |
The recommended game for this set is Platinum. The reasoning is as follows:
- Move Tutors are available
- Wurmple is available earlier and learns Bug Bite, though it must be kept from evolving until level 15
- TM27 (Return) is available much earlier
- Kricketot learns Bug Bite, though it must be kept from evolving until level 16
- Kricketune learns Slash and Night Slash
- Bibarel learns Curse
Johto-based games
Pokémon | BST | Availability | Game(s) | |
---|---|---|---|---|
330 | 7 Badges | HG | SS | |
336 | 0 Badges | HG | SS | |
352 | 3 Badges | HG | SS | |
380 | 3 Badges | HG | SS | |
385 | 0 BadgesHG 2 BadgesSS |
HG | SS | |
385 | 0 BadgesSS 2 BadgesHG |
HG | SS | |
390 | 0 Badges | HG | SS | |
390 | 0 Badges | HG | SS |
After entering the Hall of Fame
The recommended game for this set is HeartGold. The reasoning is as follows:
- Ariados is available
- While Ledian can potentially abuse Baton Pass, Ariados has access to Night Shade and priority moves
- Caterpie is available earlier
Tips and strategies:
- Choose Totodile as a starter Pokémon in order to make the battle with Silver in Azalea Town easier
Generation V
Black and White
The maximum BST for these games is 461.
Pokémon | BST | Availability | Game(s) | |
---|---|---|---|---|
420 | 0 Badges | B | W | |
425 | 1 Badge | B | W | |
428 | 3 Badges | B | W | |
445 | 1 Badge | B | W | |
446 | 0 Badge | B | W | |
460 | 4 Badges | B | W | |
461 | 3 Badges | B | W |
The recommended game for this set is Black. The reasoning is as follows:
- The Basculin obtained from the in-game trade in Driftveil City has Reckless rather than Rock Head
- Since Basculin has low defenses, avoiding recoil damage is less useful than the boost in power Take Down and Double-Edge receive
Black 2 and White 2
Although the maximum BST for these games is 420, Azumarill is not listed due to its Ability, Huge Power, which effectively makes its BST 510.
Pokémon | BST | Availability | Game(s) | |
---|---|---|---|---|
330 | 7 Badges | B2 | W2 | |
380 | 7 Badges | B2 | W2 | |
380 | 2 Badges | B2 | W2 | |
413 | 2 Badges | B2 | W2 | |
415 | 1 Badge | B2 | W2 | |
420 | 4 Badges | B2 | W2 | |
420 | 0 Badges | B2 | W2 |
The recommended game for this set is White 2. The reasoning is as follows:
- More Pokémon are available
- A Flame Orb can be found in Reversal Mountain rather than a Toxic Orb
Generation VI
Kalos-based games
Hoenn-based games
The recommended game for this set is Omega Ruby. The reasoning is as follows:
- Mawile is available
- Intimidate is more useful than Sableye's typing
- Team Magma serves as a greater challenge than Team Aqua
Generation VII
Alola-based games
The recommended game for this set is Ultra Sun. The reasoning is as follows:
- More Pokémon are available than in Sun and Moon
- Move Tutors are available
- TM08 (Bulk Up), TM19 (Roost), TM23 (Smack Down), TM32 (Double Team), TM40 (Aerial Ace), TM51 (Steel Wing), TM77 (Psych Up), TM78 (Bulldoze), and TM79 (Frost Breath) are available earlier than in Sun and Moon
- However, TM55 (Scald), TM57 (Charge Beam), TM62 (Acrobatics), TM65 (Shadow Claw), TM73 (Thunder Wave), TM82 (Dragon Tail), TM84 (Poison Jab), and TM93 (Wild Charge) are available later than in Sun and Moon
- TM24 (Thunderbolt) is available before postgame
- However, TM75 (Swords Dance) isn't available until postgame
- Totem Gumshoos serves as a greater challenge than Totem Alolan Raticate
Tips and strategies:
- Choose Popplio as a starter Pokémon in order to make the battle with Ilima easier, as his Smeargle will know Leafage
Kanto-based games
The maximum BST for these games is 405.
Pokémon | BST | Availability | Game(s) | |
---|---|---|---|---|
377 | 2 Badges | P | E | |
385 | 2 Badges | P | E | |
395 | 0 Badges | P | E | |
395 | 0 Badges | P | E | |
395 | 2 Badges | P | E | |
405 | 1 Badge | P | E |
The recommended game for this set is Let's Go, Pikachu! The reasoning is as follows:
- Caterpie is more common in the wild
- Butterfree's Poison Powder is more consistent against Brock than Beedrill's Poison Sting
- Trace's Jolteon serves as a greater challenge than his Raichu
Generation VIII
Galar-based games
Although the maximum BST for these games is 410, Medicham is not listed due to its Ability, Pure Power, which effectively makes its BST 519.
The reccomended game for this set is Sword. The reasoning is as follows:
- Mawile is available, and earlier than Sableye
- Intimidate is more useful than Sableye's typing
- TM42 (Revenge) is available earlier
Sinnoh-based games
Although the maximum BST for these games is 411, Medicham is not listed due to its Ability, Pure Power, which effectively makes its BST 519.
Pokémon | BST | Availability | Game(s) | |
---|---|---|---|---|
336 | 2 Badges | BD | SP | |
384 | 0 Badges | BD | SP | |
385 | 1 Badge | BD | SP | |
395 | 1 Badge | BD | SP | |
405 | 1 Badge | BD | SP | |
410 | 2 Badges | BD | SP | |
410 | 0 Badges | BD | SP | |
411 | 2 Badges | BD | SP |
The reccomended game for this set is Shining Pearl. The reasoning is as follows:
- More Pokémon are available
Legends: Arceus
The maximum BST for this game is 411.
Pokémon | BST | Availability |
---|---|---|
336 | 1 Noble | |
384 | 0 Nobles | |
385 | 0 Nobles | |
395 | 0 Nobles | |
405 | 1 Noble | |
410 | 1 Noble | |
410 | 0 Nobles | |
411 | 2 Nobles |
Generation IX
The maximum BST for these games is 405.
Pokémon | BST | Game(s) | |||
---|---|---|---|---|---|
330 | S | V | TM | ID | |
330 | S | V | TM | ID | |
380 | S | V | TM | ID | |
384 | S | V | TM | ID | |
400 | S | V | TM | ID | |
404 | S | V | TM | ID | |
405 | S | V | TM | ID |