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== Congrats Bulbapedia ==
 
http://www.quantcast.com/bulbapedia.com
 
Congrats on all of the hits.  I'm only confused on the gender demographic.[[User:GJPal|GJ]] 01:35, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 
:You do realize that's an Advertisement right? --[[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] 01:19, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 
::I don't know whether Quantcast screwed up, or whether they're actually referring to a separate site.  See, http://www.bulbapedia.com isn't affiliated with Bulbagarden or this wiki, to my knowledge.  We're a different web address.  So, either Quantcast's research does reflect our site and they just assumed our suffix was .com, or those stats actually have nothing to do with this wiki.  --[[User:Politoed666|<span style="color:#30D5C8">ニョロトノ</span>]][[User talk:Politoed666|<span style="color:#FF69B4">''666''</span>]] 01:40, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Actually, bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net is listed in the "similar audience" column to the right. I guess people go to bulbapedia.com when they hear about the site but not the URL. Anyway, [http://www.quantcast.com/bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net we're doing even better] than bulbapedia.com. --[[User:Martonimos|<font color="#008000">Martonimos</font>]]<sub>[[User talk:Martonimos|((<font color="#00FF00">Talk</font>))]]</sub> 01:54, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
::::wow, i didnt know that many of you guys were asain... -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAG</span>]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|<span style="color:#696969;">NE</span>]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">DETH</span>]]''' 03:09, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::I wonder, can Quantcast tell the difference between Asians and wannabe-Asians? A good number of users here use Japanese or Japanese-inspired names... my name's Japanese-inspired, and I'm born in NYC. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|<font color="#237d00"> '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>'''</font>]]<small>[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|<font color="#237d00">''.cнаt'''''^'''</font>]]</small> 03:16, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::I'm vietnamese, that's asian, but I was born in LA, the state<span style="font-family:Cataneo BT">~[[User:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#000000;">Poke</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#000000;">maniac</span>]][[Special:Random|<span style="color:#000000;">102</span>]]</span> 03:20, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Thanks for the correct info.  There is still more girls though.  I thought girls didn't exist on the Internet. <small>- ''unsigned comment from [[User:GJPal|GJPal]] ([[User talk:GJPal|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/GJPal|contribs]]){{ #if:  | &#32;{{{2}}} |}}''</small>
::::::::they dont. its just lots of boys using their mothers computer. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAG</span>]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|<span style="color:#696969;">NE</span>]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">DETH</span>]]''' 04:40, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::Or as World of Warcraft has shown us, its just guys pretending they are girls....[[User:Oak-leaf Knight|&#91;&#91;User:Oak-leaf Knight&#93;&#93;]] 04:42, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::Does that mean Tina? PachirisuLover12? Pie? Zhen Lin? no, he is a boy<span style="font-family:Cataneo BT">~[[User:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#000000;">Poke</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#000000;">maniac</span>]][[Special:Random|<span style="color:#000000;">102</span>]]</span> 04:43, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::they could be. we dont know. thats the magic of the internet. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAG</span>]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|<span style="color:#696969;">NE</span>]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">DETH</span>]]''' 04:46, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
You said it, not me...[[User:Oak-leaf Knight|&#91;&#91;User:Oak-leaf Knight&#93;&#93;]] 04:45, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
:Begs the question on why guys would want to act as girls.
:...On second thougts, don't answer that. [[User:GlinnMgraw|<span style="color:#0000FF;">Glinn</span>]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|<span style="color:#0000FF;">Mgraw</span>]] 05:27, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
::Errrr, I don't know. They want to be gay? '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <span class="explain" title="Optimus35"><sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc></span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]</sup>''09:30 4 Jun 2008'''''
:::I'm a G.i.r.l. too! (Guy In Real Life) --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|<font color="#237d00"> '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>'''</font>]]<small>[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|<font color="#237d00">''.cнаt'''''^'''</font>]]</small> 10:21, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
You idiots girls do exist on the internet i am a real girl but that does not mean that all girls do not like to get on the internet or like pokémon or stuff like that but i do you idiots. but i still love getting on bulbapedia and next time don't assume that girls do not exist on the internet next time or i will punch you people(and possibly the server) in the stupid face!<span style="background:#5218FA;">[[User:Ukira Grace 611|<span style="color:#FF00FF;">'''''Ukira</span><span style="color:#FF66CC;">Grace'''''</span>]][[User talk:Ukira Grace 611|<span style="color:#F4A6C9;">'''''611'''''</span>]]</span> 21:51, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
:Whoa, chill out + old discussion much. I'm a girl too, and everyone knows that there are some girls on this website, nevermind just the internet in general. You've never heard the joke about there being no girls on the internet? They're not trying to be mean, it's just something everyone says. In fact, I'm just a figment of your imagination. :) --'''[[User:Gabbie|<span style="color:#000000;">gabbie</span>]]''' | '''[[User_talk:Gabbie|<span style="color:#000000;">talk</span>]]''' 22:01, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
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Well done, Bulbapedia. You have crawled your way up into the ranks where when people search for Pikachu, they get our page on Pikachu. Well done indeed...'''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <span class="explain" title="Optimus35"><sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc></span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]</sup>''11:24 17 Jun 2008'''''
:Right behind Wikipedia's article on Pikachu, of course. :D --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|<font color="#237d00"> '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>'''</font>]]<small>[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|<font color="#237d00">''.cнаt'''''^'''</font>]]</small> 11:35, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
::We're ahead for every other Pokaman. Proves how hard our contributors have been working. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <span class="explain" title="Optimus35"><sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc></span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]</sup>''12:54 17 Jun 2008'''''
 
== Who Misspelled Categorized and Categorizing? ==
Fix the spelling. <small>- ''unsigned comment from [[User:AaronV28|AaronV28]] ([[User talk:AaronV28|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/AaronV28|contribs]]){{ #if:  | &#32;{{{2}}} |}}''</small>
:Typical human response. It's American English, not British. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <span class="explain" title="Optimus35"><sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc></span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]</sup>''07:24 2 Jun 2008'''''
::American English would have the "z" in catergorizing. Since we use American English, it should be changed. ''[[User:Moldy orange|<sup style="color:#4B5320;">'''Moldy'''</sup>]][[User talk:Moldy orange|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''Orange'''</sub>]]'' 12:13, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
:::It has been stated not to change from one to the other for the sheer sake of it. Either can be used, but American English is preferred. [[User:GlinnMgraw|<span style="color:#0000FF;">Glinn</span>]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|<span style="color:#0000FF;">Mgraw</span>]] 12:33, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
::::Wait, ''where'' is it misspelled anyway? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:53, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::I changed it. It should be the last one in the history. That's why Glinn yelled abut changing it. ''[[User:Moldy orange|<sup style="color:#4B5320;">'''Moldy'''</sup>]][[User talk:Moldy orange|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''Orange'''</sub>]]'' 22:59, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::Yelling GENERALLY USES CAPS LOCK LIKE THIS to emphasise its point. [[User:GlinnMgraw|<span style="color:#0000FF;">Glinn</span>]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|<span style="color:#0000FF;">Mgraw</span>]] 08:02, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I used yelled as a generic term. Would you rather I have said {{tt|talked|or wrote?}} matter-of-factly? ''[[User:Moldy orange|<sup style="color:#4B5320;">'''Moldy'''</sup>]][[User talk:Moldy orange|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''Orange'''</sub>]]'' 14:51, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
 
== Collapsible Navboxes ==
 
can bulbapedia do collapsible boxes, and if so, how? <small>'''<span style="background:#FFFFFF; border:2px solid #000000; font-family:Verdana;">{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|808080|Origami}}{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|FF8000|Guy}}</span>-<span style="background:#FFFFFF; border:2px solid #000000; font-family:Verdana;">{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|808080|Talk}}</span>-<span style="background:#FFFFFF; border:2px solid #000000; font-family:Verdana;">{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|FF8000|Contribs}}</span>-<span style="background:#FFFFFF; border:2px solid #000000; font-family:Verdana;">{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|0080FF|Mudkipz}}</span>'''</small> 21:14, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:We can, yes, we just haven't yet because we're against pretty much just jacking everyone's code. We likely will soon enough. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:51, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::But wikipedia and bulbapedia both run on mediawiki, so everything that works on one will work on the other, so why the big 'stealing other wikis code is not nice' thing? <small>'''<span style="background:#FFFFFF; border:2px solid #000000; font-family:Verdana;">{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|808080|Origami}}{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|FF8000|Guy}}</span>-<span style="background:#FFFFFF; border:2px solid #000000; font-family:Verdana;">{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|808080|Talk}}</span>-<span style="background:#FFFFFF; border:2px solid #000000; font-family:Verdana;">{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|FF8000|Contribs}}</span>-<span style="background:#FFFFFF; border:2px solid #000000; font-family:Verdana;">{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|0080FF|Mudkipz}}</span>'''</small> 23:02, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Depending on the .js or .css coding we use, there's a few that are out there specifically to be used by anyone, so they're safe to take. I know of two types of collapsible boxes, I think... if I can just find the right one, I can check the source on it, it's easy enough to get up and running. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|<font color="#237d00"> '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>'''</font>]]<small>[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|<font color="#237d00">''.cнаt'''''^'''</font>]]</small> 09:32, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
::::is it done yet? <small>'''<span style="border:2px solid #000000; font-family:Verdana;">{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}</span>'''</small> 11:37, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::I don't think I like them... They make things inconvienent and they subtract from the pages overall view. They make articles look lesss...complete. ''[[User:Moldy orange|<sup style="color:#4B5320;">'''Moldy'''</sup>]][[User talk:Moldy orange|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''Orange'''</sub>]]'' 11:39, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
::::::They've been added now. Inconvenient is only a matter of perspective; yes, you need to click to read everything, but at the same time, on pages that need collapsible boxes, it's easier to find what you're looking for when the big stuff's hidden initially. Anyway, see [[User talk:Poke/CollapsibleTables.js]] for the coding and instructions. You can format and color the tables just like any other table, so no worries about messing up themes or a page's "overall view". --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|<font color="#237d00"> '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>'''</font>]]<small>[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|<font color="#237d00">''.cнаt'''''^'''</font>]]</small> 00:15, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 
== Anime pics ==
 
How do you get pictures of the anime episodes? If I try to play one on my computer and press "Print Scrn", the window where the video was is black. Is there any way around this? --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|<font color="black"><small>S</small><sup>h</sup><small>i</small><sub>n</sub><small>y</small> <sup>N</sup><small>o</small><sub>c</sub><small>t</small><sup>o</sup><small>w</small><sub>l</sub></font>]] 23:04, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:We just get them fro Filb.de. But if you have Windows Movie Maker or some other type of movie maker, you can take screenshots from there. I'm sure websites like Filb.de use some special kind of program to get screenshots. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#0005CD;">☆</span>]][[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#15E200;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#DC0062;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 23:07, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::DVD Shrink saved the DVD as a .ifo file, and Windows Movie Maker won't let me open it. What file type do I need to convert it to and how do I convert it to the correct type? --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|<font color="black"><small>S</small><sup>h</sup><small>i</small><sub>n</sub><small>y</small> <sup>N</sup><small>o</small><sub>c</sub><small>t</small><sup>o</sup><small>w</small><sub>l</sub></font>]] 23:11, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 
::: [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=RNWE%2CRNWE%3A2005-03%2CRNWE%3Aen&q=.ifo+converter] [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 03:44, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
 
I have the "download codecs automatically" box checked, and I'm on an administrator account, but I get the error message:
 
<pre width="100%">The file F:\My Documents\My Videos\Pokémon The Rise of Darkrai.avi cannot be imported because the codec required to play the file is not installed on your computer. If you have already tried to download and install the codec, close and restart Windows Movie Maker, and then try to import the file again.</pre>
 
I've tried closing and restarting Windows Movie Maker several times but it still gives me the error. --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|<font color="black"><small>S</small><sup>h</sup><small>i</small><sub>n</sub><small>y</small> <sup>N</sup><small>o</small><sub>c</sub><small>t</small><sup>o</sup><small>w</small><sub>l</sub></font>]] 20:47, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
 
:If you could pause it without messing up the image, maybe you could just photo it. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 20:00, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
::A lot of video players have a feature that allows you to take screenshots.  Media Player Classic is a good one. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|</sup> 20:05, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 
== James' not James's!!!!!! ==
 
EVERY SINGLE POSSESIVE FORM FOR JAMES ON THIS SITE IS WRONG! The possesive form of James is James', NOT James's[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:##800000;">Emperor's Cookies</span>]] 13:09, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
:Then fix it when you see it's wrong. -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 13:51, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
:: Actually, both ''James's'' and ''James''' are [http://www.bartleby.com/141/strunk.html#1 accepted] [http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/possessives.htm possessive] [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostrophe#Possessive_apostrophe forms]. (Note that that the 's is insisted upon in the ''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MLA_style_manual The MLA Style Manual]'', as well as the ''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Elements_of_Style Elements of Style]'' which I believe is the writing standard we follow at Bulbapedia) The key is uniformity in the writing, thus, why ''James's'' is used on the Bulbapedia. [[User:Trainer-c|Trainer-c]] 13:55, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Now that they are moved, doesn't that mean we have double redirects everywhere?!? ''[[User:Moldy orange|<sup style="color:#4B5320;">'''Moldy'''</sup>]][[User talk:Moldy orange|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''Orange'''</sub>]]''
::::But proper english has '''s''' not '''s's'''. See here http://owl.english.purdue.edu/handouts/grammar/g_apost.html [[User:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:##800000;">Emperor's Cookies</span>]] 14:01, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::Okay, I'll get right on that. ''[[User:Moldy orange|<sup style="color:#4B5320;">'''Moldy'''</sup>]][[User talk:Moldy orange|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''Orange'''</sub>]]'' 14:04, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::: The links I provided clearly state that ''both'' are in fact "proper English" and anyone that has written professionally adheres to the ''Elements of Style'', and ''The MLA Style Manual''. I would ask about this on the forums before going wild with editing and redirecting everything.
:::::::I really don't think that this will work because both the OP and the TP Templates/shortlinks only work and will result in James's Pokémon. ''[[User:Moldy orange|<sup style="color:#4B5320;">'''Moldy'''</sup>]][[User talk:Moldy orange|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''Orange'''</sub>]]'' 14:15, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::The very page you cite does not support your claim. I quote, "add 's to the singular form of the word (even if it ends in -s)". James is, of course, singular.  - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]<sub>[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]</sub> 15:18, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::I asked my English teacher today, and it confirmed my thoughts that it's always just an apostrophe at the end of a name if the name ends with s. <span style="background:#000000">[[User:Porygon-Z|<span style="color:#00BFFF">'''Por'''</span>]][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|<span style="color:#FF1493">'''ygo'''</span>]][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|<span style="color:#00BFFF">'''n-Z'''</span>]]</span> 17:01, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Let's not forget it's the same English teachers who tell us that prepositions are not appropriate words to end sentences with. They are not always correct. '''James's''' is correct and the standard on Bulbapedia, end of discussion. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]<sub>[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]</sub> 02:05, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
And apparently there are people who will never learn.  Due to actions by a user called, fittingly enough, {{u|Arbok and Weezing}}, every article starting with "James's" can no longer be moved by someone who doesn't have sysop powers.  This blatant disregard for style left me with no choice.  This whole issue has been discussed over and over again, and still people insist that the "James's" way is 100% incorrect.  Please contact a sysop if a legitimate title change is necessary (such as [[James's Mime Jr.]] evolving, NOT changing [[James's Chimecho]] to "James' Chimecho").  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 06:05, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 
Isn't it funny that people are fighting over whether an "s" goes on the end of James or not? People should learn that it's a certain way on Bulbapedia and that they should abide by it.--[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#0005CD;">☆</span>]][[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#15E200;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#DC0062;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 06:16, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:It's not so much that they argue...it's just...are ''tantrums'' necessary? And English is probably the worst of them all in terms of consistency. There's ten million ways to do everything. (So yeah...no screaming about it please.)--[[User:Urutapu|Loveはドコ?]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 08:00, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
::This is probably where it is confusing people. There is a rule for names ending in "s" "vowel" "s". They probably think James falls under it when it doesn't. The only two names that do are Jesus and Moses. So those are the only two names and they actually should be Jesus' and Moses'. Those are the ''only two!'' ''[[User:Moldy orange|<sup style="color:#4B5320;">'''Moldy'''</sup>]][[User talk:Moldy orange|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''Orange'''</sub>]]'' 13:20, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Correction, I asked the Advanced Placement English teacher from my school which it should be (who has a doctorate in english!) and she said that it should always be James's and the only ones that do apply (Jesus and Moses) can actually go either way. So from now on, it should be James's, the ''correct'' way! ''[[User:Moldy orange|<sup style="color:#4B5320;">'''Moldy'''</sup>]][[User talk:Moldy orange|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''Orange'''</sub>]]'' 13:36, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 
 
By the way, the only reason "s'" (apart from with Jesus and Moses) are used is because the "s" they replace were added to make a plural. Example: ("Banks" = plural of "Bank" and a last name.) "Don't take that! That's the Banks' money!" and "Don't take that! That's Tyra Banks's money!"
See? [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 01:24, 22 August 2008 (JST)
 
== Wait a sec...... ==
 
How does this user [[User:SharkJamez]] have stuff on the user account if he joined after the 24th of march.
*20:08, June 6, 2008 SharkJamez (Talk | contribs) New user ‎
(When he joined)
[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:##800000;">Emperor's Cookies</span>]] 13:59, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 
:That's due to the content having originally been posted on the talk page.  Even prior to the userspace ban, there were instances where people had posted content more appropriate for the User namespace in the User talk namespace, and since this content didn't appear to be a blatant attempt to get around the userspace ban, the content was moved.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 14:14, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 
== Look what I found ==
 
Look at this video I found on Youtube.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsopjAc2xok
 
<span style="color:#0000FF">--'''''Posted by'''''</span> [[User:Deadlymethane|<span style="color:#7BA05B">'''''Deadly'''''</span>]][[User talk:Deadlymethane|<span style="color:#7BA05B">'''''methane'''''</span>]] <span style="color:#DA3287">'''at'''</span> 20:16, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
:Interesting. Too bad it doesn't really have a use yet. -- [[User:Bug Catcher Jam|Unown Q]] 03:40, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
::It worked for me. I'm pressed for time, though, and not keen to experiment a lot. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:43, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
:::What do you mean it has no use? If no AR was used used in that video, then you could get the events with tweaking. <span style="color:#0000FF">--'''''Posted by'''''</span> [[User:Deadlymethane|<span style="color:#7BA05B">'''''Deadly'''''</span>]][[User talk:Deadlymethane|<span style="color:#7BA05B">'''''methane'''''</span>]] <span style="color:#DA3287">'''at'''</span> 23:08, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
::::I still cant figure out how to tweak.[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:##800000;">Emperor's Cookies</span>]] 00:44, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::Go crazy on the D-pad. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:05, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 
==My Talk Page I==
Is gone. Completely gone. As In I can not find any history, or anything...[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:##800000;">Emperor's Cookies</span>]] 18:32, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
:Boo-hoo. Don't use it for useless blog crap this time. That's not what it's for. [[User:Ketsuban|Ketsuban]] 18:36, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
::I did not use it for useless Blog $%^#. And even if the admins think I did, a warning would have been nice.[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:##800000;">Emperor's Cookies</span>]] 18:38, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Your talk page had nonsense on it. We have been told to delete anything not having to do with Bulbapedia. Don't use your talk page for nonsense next time. You're not the only one this is going to happen to. -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 18:39, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
::::If I had been told that it would be wiped, I would have taken the axe to all the junk..... once again, would have been nice to have been forewarned[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:##800000;">Emperor's Cookies</span>]] 18:41, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
::::You had ''fanfiction'' on it. What exactly do you think the forums are for if you're cluttering the wiki up with tripe like that? [[User:Ketsuban|Ketsuban]] 20:40, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
::::This has gone way beyond the point of "warning" people. Honestly though, you have been warned. The discussion on the Bulbapedia forum has been going on for long enough that everyone should have seen what was going to happen, and what kinds of things are unacceptable. This junk in the user space that has nothing to do with Bulbapedia has been killing the server, and we've put up with it long enough. If you want to store fanfiction on Bulbagarden, that's what library.bulbagarden.net is for. If you want to have long discussions about any topic, that's what BMGf is for. --[[User:Archaic|Archaic]] 00:32, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
::::: Or get an account on Fanfiction.net, I have. By the way does that mean that having a userpage dedicate to fanfiction is not allowed? [[User:Agent008]]
==My Talk Page II==
Users with talk-page content that isn't about Bulbapedia should be warned ahead of time to give them time to back up the pages (this obviously applies only to things like fanfiction that the user might actually want to keep). --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|<font color="black"><small>S</small><sup>h</sup><small>i</small><sub>n</sub><small>y</small> <sup>N</sup><small>o</small><sub>c</sub><small>t</small><sup>o</sup><small>w</small><sub>l</sub></font>]] 01:03, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
:They can retrieve the information from the history, so it really makes no difference if they're warned or not. --[[User:Archaic|Archaic]] 01:32, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
::Actually, when it is delted, you cant pull back from the history. And I already kiled the fan fic.[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:##800000;">Emperor's Cookies</span>]] 01:49, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
:::When removing stuff from talk pages, it's a much better idea to blank the page, not delete it. Deletion does absolutely nothing that blanking wouldn't do in this situation; the pages are still retained in the server database. At the very least, give users the ability to see ''what'' got deleted. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|<font color="#237d00"> '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>'''</font>]]<small>[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|<font color="#237d00">''.cнаt'''''^'''</font>]]</small> 01:53, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 
== Bots ==
 
How do you create bots? I want to make one myself rather than having someone else make one for me. --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|<font color="black"><small>S</small><sup>h</sup><small>i</small><sub>n</sub><small>y</small> <sup>N</sup><small>o</small><sub>c</sub><small>t</small><sup>o</sup><small>w</small><sub>l</sub></font>]] 16:12, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
:If it isn't something that would be possible for me to do, I'd like a "shortcut" bot, named ShinyBot, that would change the following shortcuts into the correct code (to make editing easier by causing users to have to type less):
 
/d\→δ
 
/e\→é
 
/m\→♂
 
/f\→♀
 
//''Pokédex number''\\→<nowiki>[[Image:</nowiki>''Pokédex number''<nowiki>.png]]</nowiki>
 
/>''page name''<\→<nowiki>#redirect[[</nowiki>''page name''<nowiki>]]</nowiki>
 
/[''image name''][''image height''][''image width''][''title''][''page name'']\→<nowiki>{{Imagelink|</nowiki>''image name''<nowiki>|</nowiki>''image height''<nowiki>|</nowiki>''image width''<nowiki>|</nowiki>''title''<nowiki>|</nowiki>''page name''<nowiki>}}</nowiki>
 
More shortcuts possibly coming...
 
 
 
--[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|<font color="black"><small>S</small><sup>h</sup><small>i</small><sub>n</sub><small>y</small> <sup>N</sup><small>o</small><sub>c</sub><small>t</small><sup>o</sup><small>w</small><sub>l</sub></font>]] 16:32, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 
:Why not simply use the character palette?  --[[User:Politoed666|<span style="color:#30D5C8">ニョロトノ</span>]][[User talk:Politoed666|<span style="color:#FF69B4">''666''</span>]] 19:21, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 
::As opposed to creating a bot who's job would be to make every edit into two edits. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|<font color="#237d00"> '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>'''</font>]]<small>[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|<font color="#237d00">''.cнаt'''''^'''</font>]]</small> 19:24, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 
== Images ==
 
The images {{redlink|Image:Escape Formula Example 2.png}} and {{redlink|Image:Escape Formula Example 3.png}} don't show up, despite the fact that I've uploaded them ([[a:Image:Escape Formula Example 2.png]] and [[a:Image:Escape Formula Example 3.png]]). --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|<font color="black"><small>S</small><sup>h</sup><small>i</small><sub>n</sub><small>y</small> <sup>N</sup><small>o</small><sub>c</sub><small>t</small><sup>o</sup><small>w</small><sub>l</sub></font>]] 21:22, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 
:It's a bug.  Images uploaded on the Archives may not show up on the Bulbapedia side at first.  The situation usually sorts itself out over time, so I'd recommend leaving them as is--it'll probably fix itself eventually.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 21:25, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 
== Userspace ==
 
No, this isn't another whine or complaint, it's an idea. Instead of having the admins try to find some complex programming to make a edit limit, why not try to ask Bulbagarden to make a new area to put the userspace in? Have the userspace from the forums, the archives, the wiki, everything, on a new server? Just thought I'd throw the idea out there and have someone at least tell me why it won't work. [[User:Theininen|<span style="color:#008000;">The<span style="color:#0000CD;">in</span></span>]][[User talk:Theininen|<span style="color:#B22222;">in<span style="color:#ED9121;">en</span></span>]] 17:42, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
:Servers aren't free. -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 17:43, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
::Yeah, but put some of the donations from all the divisions toward it, and tell people that it would bring back the userspace... [[User:Theininen|<span style="color:#008000;">The<span style="color:#0000CD;">in</span></span>]][[User talk:Theininen|<span style="color:#B22222;">in<span style="color:#ED9121;">en</span></span>]] 17:45, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 
There's honestly no reason to actually have a userspace, i liked it better when i couldn't see mine. It's pointless unless you really want people to know every detail about you, IMO.[[User:Boywonder01|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''Boy'''</span>]][[User talk:Boywonder01|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''wonder'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Boywonder01|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''01'''</span>]] 17:52, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 
Why not just redirect all userspace pages to talk pages and be done with it? -- [[User:Bug Catcher Jam|Unown Q]] 22:32, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
:at this point, it looks like the userspace will be dissallowed and user pages will have little information on them. seriously, you join to edit and contribute, not to show off [[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|your ideas]]. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAG</span>]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|<span style="color:#696969;">NE</span>]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">DETH</span>]]''' 22:44, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 
Something to think about: Over on MarioWiki, one of our admins started a separate wiki (through wikia) called Userpedia, which is for all the community and fan crap. That might be a good solution to Bulbapedia's problems. -- [[User:Bug Catcher Jam|Unown Q]] 22:51, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
:I had heard about that, that's sort of what gave me the idea. [[User:Theininen|<span style="color:#008000;">The<span style="color:#0000CD;">in</span></span>]][[User talk:Theininen|<span style="color:#B22222;">in<span style="color:#ED9121;">en</span></span>]] 00:43, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
::It works out rather well, with the occasional overlap. I recently proposed to my fellow admins about doing what Bulbapedia did and just block all userspace edits. -- [[User:Bug Catcher Jam|Unown Q]] 01:00, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
:I kinda like this ban, it weeds out the trolls and Bulbapedia moves forward.Of course, if it's permanent, you know the trolls will call shenanigans on the admins and the entire wiki.[[User:Boywonder01|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''Boy'''</span>]][[User talk:Boywonder01|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''wonder'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Boywonder01|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''01'''</span>]] 01:12, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
:the idea may be an easy way out, but Zhen doesnt have the money to support ''another'' server. especially one for users to play around on. especially considering he already has [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/index.php something like that].  -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAG</span>]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|<span style="color:#696969;">NE</span>]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">DETH</span>]]''' 01:31, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
:: [http://www.wikia.com/ Free solutions do exist.] -- [[User:Bug Catcher Jam|Unown Q]] 03:30, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Wikia's only free money-wise. You pay for it in plenty of other ways. Trust me. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|<font color="#237d00"> '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>'''</font>]]<small>[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|<font color="#237d00">''.cнаt'''''^'''</font>]]</small> 04:10, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 
::::Can someone tell me what servers are? I know thats what host the site, but what are they? <span style="background:black">[[User:Patriotfan09|<font color="#1E90FF">'''Patriot'''</font>]][[User talk:Patriotfan09|<font color="#DC143C">'''fan'''</font>]][[User_talk:Patriotfan09/Phantom_Gym|<font color="#1E90FF">'''09'''</font>]]</span> 04:23, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::A Server is just a computer that has the entire website saved on it, basically. A much bigger computer then normal, of course... --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|<font color="#237d00"> '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>'''</font>]]<small>[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|<font color="#237d00">''.cнаt'''''^'''</font>]]</small> 06:28, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::Why not delete the user pages and user talk pages of users who dont use bulba anymore?[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:##800000;">Emperor's Cookies</span>]] 18:13, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::But then you have the problem of, what designates a user who doesn't use bulbapedia anymore? You can't ask them if they still use it, you can't be sure they'll give you an answer. Lots of users "lurk" (use the site, but don't necessarily edit all the time). Maybe a year's worth of inactivity, but that's not exactly easy to enforce.
:::::::I think userspace is still an important thing to have; it's always good to know who's who. A name only tells you so much. But there's a lot of stuff that doesn't need to be on a userpage. I want to know the editor, not know every little detail about the person and their family. K.I.S.S. (Keep It Simple, Stupid) is a good rule for userspace.
:::::::Re-enabling userspace with restrictions, either on size, or scope, or number of edits, or all of the above... seems like a good idea. The problem is, how to do this simply. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|<font color="#237d00"> '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>'''</font>]]<small>[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|<font color="#237d00">''.cнаt'''''^'''</font>]]</small> 18:28, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the info. <span style="background:black">[[User:Patriotfan09|<font color="#1E90FF">'''Patriot'''</font>]][[User talk:Patriotfan09|<font color="#DC143C">'''fan'''</font>]][[User_talk:Patriotfan09/Phantom_Gym|<font color="#1E90FF">'''09'''</font>]]</span> 22:56, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 
== Wouldnt this be cool? ==
 
wouldnt it be cool that the day we get our 10,000th article we could have like an online party or something. or just like a celebration if we could find a website that could do that or something.  but it would be fun wouldnt it!
 
its just an idea...
 
--[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 22:10, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 
==Contents==
Hey, what happened to the contents column on the pages???????? --[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 03:33, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
:Which pages are you talking about in particular? Any examples?
:I believe if they're not showing up at all, there's an option in your preferences to turn them off, so check that you didn't turn that on by mistake... --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|<font color="#237d00"> '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>'''</font>]]<small>[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|<font color="#237d00">''.cнаt'''''^'''</font>]]</small> 13:06, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 
::Ok And I mean on every page i go on --[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]]
:::Still works for me, on all the pages that should have Contents (ToC is, by default, only visible if there's about three or more sections on the page). Check your preferences, is my bet. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|<font color="#237d00"> '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>'''</font>]]<small>[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|<font color="#237d00">''.cнаt'''''^'''</font>]]</small> 16:20, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 
== My Pokémon Ranch ==
 
This is a new game avaliable for download on Wii (and since it is WiiWare, you have to have WiFi). As I was playing earlier, I realized that when Haley brings in Pokémon to the ranch, a description of the species appears. I'm not sure if it's identical to any descriptions so far, but I think it might be useful if it's put under "Pokédex Description" on the appropriate pages, though it's not really a Pokédex. [[User:Crüsäder|Crüsäder]] 14:50, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 
:Could be worth a shot since Gen I & II Pokémon have their "Stadium" descriptions.  ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="midnightblue" face="comic sans ms">'''$aturn'''</font>]][[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="green" face="comic sans ms">'''¥oshi'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|<font color="maroon">THE VOICES</font>]]</sup> 15:19, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 
::The only problem is, it doesn't show descriptions for all Pokémon, only the ones she brings in (as far as I've found, anyway). [[User:Crüsäder|Crüsäder]] 18:24, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 
:::Oh...  Then maybe it's not that notable.  ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="midnightblue" face="comic sans ms">'''$aturn'''</font>]][[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="green" face="comic sans ms">'''¥oshi'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|<font color="maroon">THE VOICES</font>]]</sup> 18:37, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
::::If we can get a full set, it will probably be worth adding.  How many Pokémon species can she bring in? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|</sup> 18:50, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::She usually brings in one a day. [[User:Crüsäder|Crüsäder]] 16:09, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 
Is there potential for her to bring in one of every kind of Pokémon?  ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="midnightblue" face="comic sans ms">'''$aturn'''</font>]][[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="green" face="comic sans ms">'''¥oshi'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|<font color="maroon">THE VOICES</font>]]</sup> 16:42, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 
You can have 1000 Pokémon in there so if anyone is willing to wait 1000 days to find out, then maybe it is. I doubt she will bring in the event pokémon though...  Rabla (i don't have a sig yet)
 
:Hayley brought in a {{p|Hariyama}} to my ranch yesterday and its description was the same as its Pokédex entry on Diamond and Pearl (both are the same). So I'm guessing this is the same for all Pokémon.  As for Pokémon with two different Pokédex entries, I'm not sure which she'll use.  ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="midnightblue" face="comic sans ms">'''$aturn'''</font>]][[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="green" face="comic sans ms">'''¥oshi'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|<font color="maroon">THE VOICES</font>]]</sup> 15:13, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 
== ads ==
 
what is with the much-hated ads on the wiki?!?!?! i hate them, and what was wrong with the google adbar at the top?? <small>'''<span style="border:2px solid #000000; font-family:Verdana;">{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}</span>'''</small> 11:17, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 
:I was seeing them earlier, but now I don't anymore.  ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="midnightblue" face="comic sans ms">'''$aturn'''</font>]][[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="green" face="comic sans ms">'''¥oshi'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|<font color="maroon">THE VOICES</font>]]</sup> 13:20, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
::It depends on the skin u use.I have always used cologne blue, and as long as I am logged in, I see no ads.[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:##800000;">Emperor's Cookies</span>]] 16:09, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 
:::I always use monobook, because I've used it for so long, i know where everything is, and I like it. <small>'''<span style="border:2px solid #000000; font-family:Verdana;">{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}</span>'''</small> 16:20, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 
I use cologne blue too, but I don't see the ads anymore when I'm logged out.  ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="midnightblue" face="comic sans ms">'''$aturn'''</font>]][[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="green" face="comic sans ms">'''¥oshi'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|<font color="maroon">THE VOICES</font>]]</sup> 16:25, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 
Some of the ads I've seen are a little racy. I'm an adult, so it doesn't really bother me, but I'd hate to hear of a kid whose mom flipped out because of some half-naked chicks on an otherwise kid-friendly Pokémon site. [[User:Amp|Amp]] 02:57, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
:Forums to report. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:42, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 
I dont know if this is the right place, but im complaining about the ads. cant you do something? my computer keeps slowwing down to try and handle the pop ups. i want to look at Entei's move list, not see 'Mileys new video' or buy 'Phisiology'. please do something. {{unsigned|Chrishaylor}}
:If you sign in, you shouldn't see any ads at all, it was made that way. ''[[User:Moldy orange|<sup style="color:#4B5320;">'''Moldy'''</sup>]][[User talk:Moldy orange|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''Orange'''</sub>]]'' 23:12, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::that just forces people to join if they dont want to see the ads. <small>'''<span style="border:2px solid #000000; font-family:Verdana;">{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}</span>'''</small> 11:43, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
 
== Season 11? ==
 
Is it true that the 11th season will be Pokémon Diamond and Pearl:Battle Dimension ? I have heard a lot about this and i was wondering if anyone could confirm it... - Rabla
 
 
[[Pokémon Diamond & Pearl: Battle Dimension| Pokémon Battle Dimension]]. Need more Proof? --[[User:Force Fire|<font color="#F05030">Force</font>]] [[User talk:Force Fire|<font color="00FFFF">Fire</font>]] 08:54, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
 
Yeah, I've been watching battle dimension for over 2 months now so I dont get what your talking about. --[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 13:00, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
::Maybe this person is from a different country that hasn't aired any yet, did you think of that??!! ''[[User:Moldy orange|<sup style="color:#4B5320;">'''Moldy'''</sup>]][[User talk:Moldy orange|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''Orange'''</sub>]]'' 14:22, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
 
Where i am they haven't even finished Diamond and Pearl yet -Rabla
 
Yes some countries don't stay with the US or Japan dub some may be more behind on the series--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 06:26, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 
==12 articles left==
Number 10.000 is coming. [[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 08:10, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
 
== YAY! 10,000 ARTICLES ==
 
wow congrats guys on getting 10000 articles!
 
I remember when there was only 6,000!
 
--[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 20:01, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
 
:I also say, congrats Bulbapedia! 10,000... wow. [[User:Theininen|<span style="color:#008000;">The<span style="color:#0000CD;">in</span></span>]][[User talk:Theininen|<span style="color:#B22222;">in<span style="color:#ED9121;">en</span></span>]] 21:47, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
 
:: Wow.  If I may ask, which was the 10,000th page?  I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 10:53, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
:::[[Koffing (EX Ruby & Sapphire 54)]] [[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 10:56, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 
And only 14 pages until it's 11,000! <small>'''<span style="border:2px solid #000000; font-family:Verdana;">{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}</span>'''</small> 09:46, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 
== Bulbapedia Pokémon League ==
Ok here’s the thing, I was wondering if anyone would be interested in making a Pokémon League with other Uses here on Bulba, after all most of us like making strong Pokémon teams – why not test them out. It would work over the WiFi using the D/P and PBR friend codes.
 
If you’re interested put your Sig below the Possible Rules on my talk page & I'll see how many are interested and we can go from there, I was thinking of starting it in about two weeks to give people time to get the Pokémon ready.
 
[[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]]
:Check the forums, maybe. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 14:02, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 
Yeah I found it - never thought to look there [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]]
:the league you found is from the forums. {{u|Porygon-Z}} created a league with Bulba members. you can check it out [http://ipgl.proboards84.com/index.cgi here.] -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAG</span>]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|<span style="color:#696969;">NE</span>]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">DETH</span>]]''' 22:16, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
::No I just use Safari browser--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 09:33, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 
== Ads ==
 
I've noticed that Bulbapedia now has ads on it, and some of the words are green, and when you scroll over them, this little popup box comes up. I'm wondering, why are they there some ads now? Lack of funding? [[User:TheStick|TheStick]]
:Bulbapedia has sold out to the man. Plain and simple.[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:##800000;">Emperor's Cookies</span>]] 14:08, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
 
::From what I've read on the forums, it's part of a new server.  ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="midnightblue" face="comic sans ms">'''$aturn'''</font>]][[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="green" face="comic sans ms">'''¥oshi'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|<font color="maroon">THE VOICES</font>]]</sup> 15:00, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
:::I noticed that it only happens when I tried to view the site when I wasn't logged in. [[User:TheStick|TheStick]]
 
::::I believe that is the intention.  Maybe it's a sneaky way to get people to join...  ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="midnightblue" face="comic sans ms">'''$aturn'''</font>]][[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="green" face="comic sans ms">'''¥oshi'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|<font color="maroon">THE VOICES</font>]]</sup> 00:28, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
 
:::::Ho hum. The sidebar advertisement is actually well-placed, it's not in the way of anything. And it's banner ads for stuff like Nintendo (and Zwinky), so that's not awful either. I'm not liking the fat advertisement at the bottoms of pages (it should really be a horizontal banner ad, and not within the page content box). But all in all, it's a pretty sweet deal; site seems fast enough already, no ads when logged in, and all that. I'm jealous; GuildWiki is actually losing members over it's advertising system. (Wikia bought GuildWiki out, and they have really crappy ad locations, such as right in the middle of the page.)
:::::I'm looking forward to seeing this server in action. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|<font color="#237d00"> '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>'''</font>]]<small>[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|<font color="#237d00">''.cнаt'''''^'''</font>]]</small> 10:38, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 
::::::What ads? When I'm on here I never see any ads?--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 03:20, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Maybe you missed the fourth comment in this section... - [[User:SpontaneousCombusken|<span style="background:#E57E4C"><span style="color:#F4DA8E;"><sub>spontaneous</sub></span></span><span style="background:#F4DA8E"><span style="color:#E57E4C;">'''Combusken'''</span></span>]] 03:22, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 
:::::::I'll check....--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 03:31, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 
:::::::::I signed out but there was no ads only some words were highlighted green--[[User:CoolPikachu!|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Cool'''</span>]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|<span style="color:#FFBA00;">'''Pika'''</span>]][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|<span style="color:#FFBA00;">'''chu!'''</span>]]03:34, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 
:-*de-indent* I logged out and turned off my Adblock Plus, and there are definitely advertisements, along with pop-ups (!!). - [[User:SpontaneousCombusken|<span style="background:#E57E4C"><span style="color:#F4DA8E;"><sub>spontaneous</sub></span></span><span style="background:#F4DA8E"><span style="color:#E57E4C;">'''Combusken'''</span></span>]] 03:40, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
:....................................all these popups...........I hate this website.....<span style="font-family:Cataneo BT">~[[User:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#000000;">Pokemaniac102</span>]]</span> 03:44, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
::I'm just lucky then --[[User:CoolPikachu!|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Cool'''</span>]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|<span style="color:#FFBA00;">'''Pika'''</span>]][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|<span style="color:#FFBA00;">'''chu!'''</span>]] 04:57, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
:::[http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/?from=getfirefox Firefox 3]
:::[https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1865 AdBlock Plus]
:::...and you're golden. I had to jump through all sorts of hoops, disabling features, just so I could see what the ads looked like. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|<font color="#237d00"> '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>'''</font>]]<small>[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|<font color="#237d00">''.cнаt'''''^'''</font>]]</small> 09:25, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
::No I just use mostly Safari and a little FireFox browser--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 09:33, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
:::YOU USE A MAC!!!!![[User:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:##800000;">Emperor's Cookies</span>]] 02:46, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
 
==Fourms==
 
Are the fourms currently down?  I can't get on at all.  Every time i go on, it has this wierd error message.  ~09MurphyM
 
== Location Data ==
 
Where's a complete list of all location data in DP? I'm wondering because I saw a hacked Ho-Oh that I thought said it was from "Space World" but I didn't think PokéSav could create new location data. --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|<font color="black"><small>S</small><sup>h</sup><small>i</small><sub>n</sub><small>y</small> <sup>N</sup><small>o</small><sub>c</sub><small>t</small><sup>o</sup><small>w</small><sub>l</sub></font>]] 19:11, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
:[http://www.spaceworld.co.jp/english/ As yet unused promotional place.] '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:28, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
:As for that list, we only have one for Gen II and Gen III GBA. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:30, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
 
== whats wrong with pokemon.com? ==
 
everytime you try to go to pokemon.com, it says error, but when you type in www.pokemon.com it comes up with this weird page with news from may and june and something about a tournament.
 
I dont know if that happens a lot or what it means so does anyone else know if a server is just down or what? Thanks --[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 13:09, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 
== The ads ==
 
Just a question.Do the ads pertain to wat you search[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:##800000;">DCM</span>]] 13:48, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 
:What are you talking about?  I haven't seen ads on this site in ages.  I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 13:52, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
::Log out.It seem swat ever you have searched most will apear in the advertisements[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:##800000;">DCM</span>]] 13:54, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 
:::The ads are only visible to those not logged in. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="#003366" face="comic sans ms">'''$aturn'''</font>]][[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="#008000" face="comic sans ms">'''¥oshi'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|<font color="#800000">THE VOICES</font>]]</sup> 13:56, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 
== Roselia! ==
 
What does the scouter say about the amount of articles!? <span style="color:#0000FF">--'''''Posted by'''''</span> [[User:Deadlymethane|<span style="color:#7BA05B">'''''Deadly'''''</span>]][[User talk:Deadlymethane|<span style="color:#7BA05B">'''''methane'''''</span>]] <span style="color:#DA3287">'''at'''</span> 20:15, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
:IT'S OVER 9000!?!?!?!?!? [[User:Takoto|<span style="color:#2E0854"><b>Takoto タコト</b></span>]]|<span style="color:#F4C2C2"> サソデイ = 愛</span> 02:19, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
::actually its now over 11,000. <small>'''<span style="border:2px solid #000000; font-family:Verdana;">{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}</span>'''</small> 11:42, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 
== New Template ==
 
Can I make a new template thing about editing the user space?[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:##800000;">DCM</span>]]
:Sure, just do it in one edit! ''[[User:Moldy orange|<sup style="color:#4B5320;">'''Moldy'''</sup>]][[User talk:Moldy orange|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''Orange'''</sub>]]'' 02:21, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
::How bout this:
<nowiki>=Please=</nowiki>
Slow down on editing the User Space.Editing the User Space too much will  lead to it being locked again.Instead of doing 10 Small edits, why not use preview to check your edits before you preview.
:Thank you
 
:Made it quickly.Gonna make it under User:Darth Cookie Monster/Warning
::[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:##800000;">DCM</span>]] 02:26, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Put two equal signs on each side instead of one and make it so it automatically signs and it should be cool. ''[[User:Moldy orange|<sup style="color:#4B5320;">'''Moldy'''</sup>]][[User talk:Moldy orange|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''Orange'''</sub>]]'' 02:31, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
::::Cant figure that out.Can you add that and it should be good.[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:##800000;">DCM</span>]] 02:33, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::Thanks for the help.[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:##800000;">DCM</span>]] 02:40, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 
== requests ==
 
can we get a suggestion box that comes out of the search menu like wikipedia that way we get rid of the disambugation pages?
and can we upload to the site the Pokémon movies and be downloadable for members only? so if we do it do not spread the news. Please reply back, an admin please!!!!!!!!!!--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 14:37, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 
:Well, I'm not an admin, but I ''seriously doubt'' that the movies will ever be available like that on this site.  That is called piracy, after all.  As far as the suggestion box thing, that'll probably happen when the wiki media deal gets an upgrade.  Wikipedia is used as a testing ground for that stuff before other wikis get it.  ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="#003366" face="comic sans ms">'''$aturn'''</font>]][[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="#008000" face="comic sans ms">'''¥oshi'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|<font color="#800000">THE VOICES</font>]]</sup> 15:06, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
::NO!! Disambiguation pages are nice and convienent. ''[[User:Moldy orange|<sup style="color:#4B5320;">'''Moldy'''</sup>]][[User talk:Moldy orange|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''Orange'''</sub>]]'' 16:36, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
:::One, we had a vote on the Pokémon disambigs before. We're not gonna get rid of them. However, there is that sort of "suggestions" thing for the searchbar that I have in Firefox.
:::Also, downloadable movies? Dude, we're lucky that Nintendo isn't as sue-happy as Scientology for us just using official TCG cards. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:00, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 
Besides, Wikipedia still has its disambiguation pages even though it uses the suggestion table as you're typing into the search window.  ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="#003366" face="comic sans ms">'''$aturn'''</font>]][[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="#008000" face="comic sans ms">'''¥oshi'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|<font color="#800000">THE VOICES</font>]]</sup> 19:24, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 
so lets say you type Pikachu, but you want Ash's Pikachu so the suggestion box will appear:
Pikachu (species)
Pikachu (Ash) redirects to Ash's Pikachu
Pikachu (Ritchie) redirects to Ritchies Pikachu
so this how it works, sorry about the movie thing I forgot about piracy. Also when you login and go to the main page,  at the bottom can we also show how many active memebers in bulbapedia are present? --[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 05:56, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
:If you wanna see how many people are on, then go to the forum. This isn't one, it's a wiki. <span style="background:#000000">[[User:Porygon-Z|<span style="color:#00BFFF">'''Por'''</span>]][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|<span style="color:#FF1493">'''ygo'''</span>]][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|<span style="color:#00BFFF">'''n-Z'''</span>]]</span> 06:00, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 
::Pokémon with unique names will have their pages titled as such, so [[Sparky]]'s page is located there.  ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="#003366" face="comic sans ms">'''$aturn'''</font>]][[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="#008000" face="comic sans ms">'''¥oshi'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|<font color="#800000">THE VOICES</font>]]</sup> 13:38, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 
we can also get a prenounciation info box at the bottom of the Pokémon information box just like pokencyclopedia.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 14:51, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
:Er, what? If you mean a name pronunciation, we've been meaning to implement one and will attempt to do so soon... '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:33, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 
== Evobox? ==
 
Sorry if it is a stupid question, but where are Template:Evobox/1 and Template:Evobox/2 gone? --[[User:Pokeresp|Pokeresp]] 11:16, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
:Something is wrong with the database. [[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 12:04, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 
== Something's not right here.... ==
 
The page for [[Scuz]] seems to be not working.  What's going on here?  I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 12:31, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
:See above. [[User:GlinnMgraw|<span style="color:#0000FF;">Glinn</span>]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|<span style="color:#0000FF;">Mgraw</span>]] 15:38, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 
== Categories for players of all game versions ==
 
Why do we have categories for OSes (like "Windows Users" or "Linux users"), browsers (like "Firefox users"), even for types (like "Water users"), but no special categories for different game versions? IMHO, we should create them and add to <nowiki>{{User Diamond}}, {{User Pearl}}, {{User Emerald}} and other game tags. At least everyone would know, who might want to trade some version-exclusives.</nowiki> --[[User:Pokeresp|Pokeresp]] 11:38, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
:Hmm, a good question. My guess is that nobody thought to categorize the templates... I think it shouldn't be tough to add them in. Games aren't region-exclusive, correct? Meaning some with a Japanese Blue can trade with someone with an English Blue... so in the case of the (JP) game templates, I say we categorize those just as Blue and Red versions. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|<font color="#237d00"> '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>'''</font>]]<small>[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|<font color="#237d00">''.cнаt'''''^'''</font>]]</small> 13:35, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
::I think, it would be better to add each template to both categories, e.g. "Players of Diamond" and "Players of Diamond (Japanese version)", since Pokémon from other regions get an experience bonus. But such categorising would not help only trading, but would also be good for statistical purposes :-) etc. --[[User:Pokeresp|Pokeresp]] 17:54, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
:::For things like Japanese Diamond, there'd be no point, since they're the same game. Besides, you're forgetting, Pokémon that have been traded always gain an EXP boost, not just from other regions. I was merely meaning Japanese Blue, but I might need to look at that one in particular again; I think there was something about the Japanese Blue only being in Japanese, and the English Blue being a different game entirely. Otherwise, for trading purposes, both categories could be put in a single box, so people looking for players with Blue don't need to check multiple categories. I'll check it now, and probably start adding tags while I'm at it. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|<font color="#237d00"> '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>'''</font>]]<small>[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|<font color="#237d00">''.cнаt'''''^'''</font>]]</small> 23:36, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
::::All done. I just need to give the categories their own pages. Blue and Blue (JP) are different games, so no need for multiple tags there. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|<font color="#237d00"> '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>'''</font>]]<small>[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|<font color="#237d00">''.cнаt'''''^'''</font>]]</small> 00:10, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 
== Question ==
 
How do you make a thing like some of the templates on Wikipedia where you click the word "hide"/"show" and it toggles the links in the template? --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|<font color="black"><small>S</small><sup>h</sup><small>i</small><sub>n</sub><small>y</small> <sup>N</sup><small>o</small><sub>c</sub><small>t</small><sup>o</sup><small>w</small><sub>l</sub></font>]] 04:21, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
:class="expandable" or class="collapsible" on the table. See...


== Previous discussions ==
{| class="expandable"
|-
! This is a table
|-
| And this is the stuff inside! It can be hidden!
|}
:'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:07, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
::I always loved how enthusiastic you are about coding, TTE.--[[User:Urutapu|Loveはドコ?]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 07:30, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Is it possible to do it without the label moving when the text appears?  Or with the label disappearing, so that the text could be shown and not hidden again? --[[User:Pokeresp|Pokeresp]] 11:33, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
::::If you set the box width in the code (put <code><nowiki><width="350px"></nowiki></code> in the table), then it should lock it in at the same size, open or closed.
{| class="expandable" width="350px" border="1px black"
|-
| This table has a set width (and a border)
|-
| This arbitrarily long section of content will be forced to wrap-around when it reaches the end, because the table's width is locked at a smaller number.
|}
::::There's no way to lock a table open though, not unless you simply take the expandable class out. :P --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|<font color="#237d00"> '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>'''</font>]]<small>[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|<font color="#237d00">''.cнаt'''''^'''</font>]]</small> 13:55, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::But it's impossible to take "expandable" class out, because embedding html code is disabled on Bulbapedia. However, I at least succeeded in making the table caption "stand still".
:::::{| class="expandable"
|-
!align=left|Something is hidden here
|-
| This table has no border and no fixed width, but its title won't move when "[show]" is clicked. At least in my browser.
* If someone could make the link "[show]/[hide]" not move...
* And if someone could make it disappear with html code embedding disabled...
|}
:::::'''UPDATE.''' I've noticed an interesting effect in Opera 9.51. Before the whole page is loaded, all expandable tables are not collapsed. This means, if a spoiler will be hidden in such table, someone using Opera will have to avoid looking at the screen while the page is loading...
:::::--[[User:Pokeresp|Pokeresp]] 16:29, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::That's normal for all browsers; it loads the page content first, then loads the show/hide script. People will just have to make due as normal, back when we didn't have the show/hide script; don't scroll down when you see a spoiler alert.
::::::And as for the table you just made, if you give it a set width, it'll lock the little show/hide button in one spot. No need to add the border like I did, I only did that to make it easier to see what the table was doing.
::::::What I meant about taking the expandable class out:
::::::{|
|-
!align=left|This table is locked in the open position.
|-
| Because this table has had the expandable class removed, it can't be closed. Ta-da.
|}
::::::--[[user:Jioruji_Derako|<font color="#237d00"> '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>'''</font>]]<small>[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|<font color="#237d00">''.cнаt'''''^'''</font>]]</small> 17:29, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 2|Archive 2]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 3|Archive 3]]


== User pages ==
{{#time: h}}:{{#time: m}}


Isn't there a way that you can only permit 10 edits a day on user pages so this problem can be resolved? --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#0005CD;">☆</span>]][[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#15E200;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#DC0062;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 06:00, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
{{CURRENTTIME}}
:I agree. It's been a month! [[User:Yinyang1195|<span style="border: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="color:#000000;">Yin</span></span>]][[User talk:Yinyang1195|<span style="background:#000000;"><span style="color:#FFFFFF;">Yang</span></span>]] 06:39, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
::The main problem being, there's no way to physically limit the number of edits per day, let alone to a specific namespace (as far as I've been able to dig up on MediaWiki). The limit would most likely need to be a policy, and in that case, would be extremely hard to enforce. At the very least though, I believe a message can be added to the edit screen on certain namespaces (User:, in this case), telling users to remember to use the Show Preview button, and keep total edits per day to about five (although technically, if you need to update your userpage more then twice a day, you're using it too much as it is).
::I assume it's just a few admins working on the details... but perhaps, if it's proving to be difficult to figure out, a page for suggestions could be set up (or a forum thread). I'm sure there's more then enough users here that could figure out a basic plan, at the least. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|<font color="#237d00"> '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>'''</font>]]<small>[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|<font color="#237d00">''.cнаt'''''^'''</font>]]</small> 07:19, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
:::We had a problem like this on [http://www.mariowiki.com Super Mario Wiki]. We solved it by creating a Userpedia, a place for member to spam their happy little fancruft hearts out and limit the content of the main wikis userspace to general information. Even while we don't always enforce this, things are still under a reasonable amount of control. -- [[User:Bug Catcher Jam|Chris]][[Image:201MS.gif|201]] 18:46, 24 April 2008 (UTC)


You know, many '''MANY''' other wikis allow userspace. And it works, there isn't really a big problem with it. What makes this wiki different? I just want to know. [[User:Noname|Noname]]
Why are the minutes different on the two templates? --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|<font color="black"><small>S</small><sup>h</sup><small>i</small><sub>n</sub><small>y</small> <sup>N</sup><small>o</small><sub>c</sub><small>t</small><sup>o</sup><small>w</small><sub>l</sub></font>]] 01:29, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
:I haven't been here long, but from what I gather, people were spending more time editing userspace than actual wiki content (which is the purpose of the wiki). -- [[User:Bug Catcher Jam|Chris]][[Image:201MS.gif|201]] 21:10, 24 April 2008 (UTC)


:It's because many people were signing up for this wiki for the main or sole purpose of using the userspace as something along the lines of a blog, Myspace, or gaming center. As such, userspace edits started to constitute the majority of this wiki's edits, and people using signature templates and then changing them started to bog down the server.
:Good question. I suppose it depends on how the CURRENTTIME tool works, or something. Maybe one of them gets the time from one place, while the other gets it from somewhere else? They're exactly five minutes apart, that sounds almost like a refresh rate on something perhaps. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|<font color="#237d00"> '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>'''</font>]]<small>[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|<font color="#237d00">''.cнаt'''''^'''</font>]]</small> 02:04, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
::Because <code><nowiki>{{#time: m}}</nowiki></code> is the month number with a leading zero. It's {{#time: F}}, so it's {{#time: m}}. The correct minutes would be <code><nowiki>{{#time: i}}</nowiki></code>, as you can see...


:To alleviate the solution, userspace editing to anyone without sysop powers has been blocked, and a new signature policy has been drafted that forbids the usage of signature templates.  Many of the powers-that-be are working on a solution to try to curb the amount of userspace edits upon the lifting of the userspace ban.  Note that the only current sysop who's ever found themselves unable to edit userpages under the current conditions is the most recently-appointed one, {{u|Jioruji Derako}}; yours truly, the second-most recently-appointed one, was given the powers shortly before the userspace ban fell into place.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 21:10, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
::<code><nowiki>{{#time: H}}:{{#time: i}}</nowiki></code> makes {{#time: H}}:{{#time: i}}
::Well, technically, at first, Zhen made it so no one could... which even excluded him and the rest of us. Wouldn't be very good if we needed to do something about someone's page. But look at how often we're editing our pages. Very sparingly. ''Very''. It's more or less on a need-to basis. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:20, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
::<code><nowiki>{{CURRENTTIME}}</nowiki></code> makes {{CURRENTTIME}}
:::I generally only take an edit or two to completely redesign my page, on such rare occasions. Do all the editing in the "Show Preview" window, and you won't ever clog up RC. And I tend not to keep anything that ''needs'' updating on my page (I currently list off some Pokémon teams, but even when userspace editing was on, I only updated levels every so often).
:::It's just so easy to make a beautiful userspage, then let it be. I see no problem with users who spend a lot of time making their userpages... but the problem arises when they don't ever "finish" the page. Spend a day making your page pretty, then get back to editing. Not the other way around. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|<font color="#237d00"> '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>'''</font>]]<small>[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|<font color="#237d00">''.cнаt'''''^'''</font>]]</small> 04:38, 27 April 2008 (UTC)


::::On march 24th, this was posted:
::It's the same. Now watch this random calculated number change like nobody's business! {{#expr: ({{#time: U}} mod {{#time: s}}) + ({{#time: z}} mod {{#time: h}})}} (hint: it's ({{#time: U}}%{{#time: s}}) + ({{#time: z}}%{{#time: G}})). '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:48, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
::::<span style=color:#808080>''Due to an overwhelmingly large amount of edits going on in the User: namespace, we have disabled edits to all pages within it for the time being. We are monitoring how much the lack of ability to edit personal pages will affect the server, and when the results come in, we will make a decision on what to do. ''


::::''If you feel the need to create a userpage or edit it now, you will have to wait. Do not create a page in the main namespace to move to the User: namespace under any circumstances. '''<span style=color:#000000>The results will likely be conclusive after about a week</span>''', and you will be informed with another message from the editor about the return of functionality. ''
:::Aha! So ''that's'' how Arceus is set to randomly switch modes whenever you visit the page. I like that. I'll have to find some use for that now... --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|<font color="#237d00"> '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>'''</font>]]<small>[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|<font color="#237d00">''.cнаt'''''^'''</font>]]</small> 13:00, 7 August 2008 (UTC)


::::''Additionally, a policy on signatures is being discussed on the Bulbapedia forum on BMGf, so please, take a look at it even if you are not a member, as it may affect you. ''</span>


::::They've had a month to get the results. That not long enough? <span style="background:#000000; border: 2px solid #FF8000; font-family:Verdana;">'''[[:User:Origamiguy|<FONT COLOR="#FF8000">折り紙</FONT><FONT COLOR="#808080">ガイ</FONT>]] <FONT COLOR="#FF8000">-</FONT> [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|<FONT COLOR="#FF8000">離す</FONT>]][[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|<FONT COLOR="#808080">貢献</FONT>]]'''</span> 10:47, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
:::{{#time: h}}:{{#time: i}}
:::::Like, dude...If you stopped asking, you'd think they'd let you back. THink about it: They let the userpages open and then...EVERYONE RUSHES TO EDIT THEIR PAGES. '''[[User:Optimus35|<span class="explain" title="Optimus35"><sc>Optimatum</sc></span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]</sup>'''27 Apr 2008
:::{{CURRENTTIME}}
::::::Err, with that argument they could keep it off forever. Anyway, some people use show preveiw and some people don't, but preventing userspace edits is a temporary measure at best. This ''is'' a community-driven wiki (says so at the top), and you can't expect people to use the forums for everything. [[User:Noname|Noname]] I'll shut up now.
:::What are <nowiki>{{#time: U}}</nowiki>, <nowiki>{{#time: z}}</nowiki>, and <nowiki>{{#time: G}}</nowiki> and how do you round a decimal to an integer? --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|<font color="black"><small>S</small><sup>h</sup><small>i</small><sub>n</sub><small>y</small> <sup>N</sup><small>o</small><sub>c</sub><small>t</small><sup>o</sup><small>w</small><sub>l</sub></font>]] 22:40, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::::This is a community-driven ''encyclopedia''.  Anything beyond that is an extra. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|</sup> 15:23, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
::::<code><nowiki>{{#time: U}}</nowiki></code> is seconds since January 1, 1970 at 12:00 AM. <code><nowiki>{{#time: z}}</nowiki></code> is how many days have passed since January 1 of this year. <code><nowiki>{{#time: G}}</nowiki></code> is the hour in 24-hour format without a padding 0 (<code><nowiki>{{#time: H}}</nowiki></code> has the padding zero, while the lowercase of each is the 12-hour version). [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:ParserFunctions See this page] for all of them... '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:05, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::::You know, you should pobably post a new notice on the main page about the extended block of user pages, just to make it clear that the block is not over and will not be over soon[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 15:35, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
::::By the way. {{#ifexpr: (({{#time: m}} + {{#time: d}} + {{#time: y}}) div 3) = {{#time: m}}|Happy {{#time: m"/"d"/"y}}!|{{#expr: ({{#time: m}} + {{#time: d}} + {{#time: y}}) div 3}}}}
:::::::::It's an encyclopedia, but they key phrase here is "community-driven". People don't just join to edit their userpages, but you shouldn't get rid of it entirly just to motivate them to edit the mainspace. And why exactly won't it be over soon? What can be gained by keeping it off even longer? It's not like userpaes are the lifeblood of people here, but it is certainly a nice feature. As I said before, lot's of wikis allow userspaces, and it's not a really big deal. [[User:Noname|Noname]]
::::::::::it becomes a big deal when there are so many user-space edits, it slows down the server. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAG</span>]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|<span style="color:#696969;">NE</span>]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">DETH</span>]]''' 18:14, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::Not to mention that some people DO join just to edit their userspaces. Yes, lots of Wikis allow userspaces, but this is the only wiki I've seen where a userpage would be more than a few lines long. Not to mention all the other pages people make for their fanfic characters, Pokémon teams, and other stuff. And "community-driven" means that everyone is able to contribute to the encyclopedia and make it better, ''not'' that they should bog down the server with hundreds of edits per day to their userpages. Like everyone's saying, begging for the userpages back is only going to make things worse, so can people please just drop it and let the Admins do their job? Thank you. --[[User:Martonimos|<span style="color:#008000;">Martonimos</span>]]<sub>[[User talk:Martonimos|((<span style="color:#00FF00;">Talk</span>))]]</sub> 22:40, 27 April 2008 (UTC)


== Since WHEN ==
==Idea==  
Okay, seeing as I'm not a part of any other part of bulbapedia, I can't post it anywhere else. The idea is a Pokémon fan wiki. Basically, it's a wiki for fanfic, ideas, interactive games, text adventures and anything else. I'ma guess you'd be able to make pages on your own fake pokémon. If you juys already have this, I apologize because I would not know. I got the idea from http://fanstuff.hrwiki.org/index.php/Main_Page . [[User:Strong Intelligent|Strong Intelligent]]


Since when are people allowed to make user accounts after Pokemon names!! What if someone searchs  a pokemon, spells it wrong, and clicks on the USERS NAME INSTEAD OF THE ARTICLE!!!!!!You could get completely wrong information!!!!!!!!21:08, 26 April 2008 (UTC){{unsigned|Darth Cookie Monster}}
:It sounds like a fun idea. I don't think it's a realistic option for Bulbapedia, or our servers; there's already a lot on the wiki, and we've already got limits on userspace stuff, because fanfics and games have clogged the servers before.
:But a wiki dedicated to the topic might be fun. It's actually not all that hard to start your own wiki, if you can find a webhost... I've got one of my own running on a mildly reliable free webhost. So don't forget that starting one yourself is a fine option. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|<font color="#237d00"> '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>'''</font>]]<small>[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|<font color="#237d00">''.cнаt'''''^'''</font>]]</small> 19:19, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
::I'm all for it. I don't have the money, time, know-how or "care" factor to do it myself, but a fan wiki would attract all the fancrufters away from here to a place where they can post their stuff without fear of reprimand or deletion. Transformers and Super Mario do it, I know, so I think it's a good idea. --[[User:Martonimos|<font color="#008000">Martonimos</font>]]<sub>[[User talk:Martonimos|((<font color="#00FF00">Argh</font>]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|<font color="#50C878">Blargh</font>))]]</sub> 02:46, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
:::"Welcome to Pokémon Fancruft Wiki! Have fun editing here!"
:::...while I doubt that name would go over well, the basic idea would be popular. The question would be, is a Wiki really the best place for such things, or perhaps a simpler, "normal" submission-type website? Lots of people like fanfics, but how many like posting fanfics in a wiki?
:::Not counting the people here who do just that; most of them post fanfics here because they're already members, and at least a little familiar with wiki-code. Your average Pokémon fanboy/fangirl might not be so wiki-literate. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|<font color="#237d00"> '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>'''</font>]]<small>[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|<font color="#237d00">''.cнаt'''''^'''</font>]]</small> 05:02, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
::::Everyone at the HRFWiki, WIki user Wiki and Kirby fanstuff wiki. BTW: it's fan'''STUFF''' not fancruft. [[User:Strong Intelligent|Strong Intelligent]]
:::::I was quoting Martonimos on the "Fancruft", and he was quoting Zhen Lin on it. Sort of an inside joke I suppose, we both know what it's supposed to be called. :P --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|<font color="#237d00"> '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>'''</font>]]<small>[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|<font color="#237d00">''.cнаt'''''^'''</font>]]</small> 13:21, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::Actually, I've only ever heard the term "fancruft." I've never heard it referred to as "fanstuff," so I guess I hang around some really bitter people.
::::::I think a wiki would work really well. It's not just fanfics that people write; they make pages for their characters, essays, teams, predictions, all sorts of stuff that are in article format but not notable (or, more often, canonical) enough to be articles. If, for example, I had been forced to put my {{red link|User:Martonimos/GSDS|GSDS predictions}} page on another site, one that didn't use wiki-coding, it would have required an extensive rewrite, not just for the code, but the format of the article as a whole. And when you look at the amount of time people spend editing their userpages, even now after the ban, I'd think that a wiki of this sort would be extremely popular. We'd just have to be sure to deflect a few people from Bulbapedia to the Fancruftpedia at first; it'd catch on after a while. --[[User:Martonimos|<font color="#008000">Martonimos</font>]]<sub>[[User talk:Martonimos|((<font color="#00FF00">Argh</font>]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|<font color="#50C878">Blargh</font>))]]</sub> 08:17, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
''{Kills colons}'' Presicley my Martini! Anyway, I'd probably be more active at the Bulbafan(?) [[User:Strong Intelligent|Strong Intelligent]]


The userpages go like this: User:(username here).  They wouldn't get usernames on disambiguation pages!--[[User:Kuki|<span style="color:#b00000;">Kuki</span>]][[User talk:Kuki|<span style="color:#2c40a4;">Ta</span><span style="color:#049440;">lk</span>]] 21:15, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
== Japanese ==


:Additionally, the searcher would have to be registered, logged in, and have "User" (that is, the real "User" space, not the {{u|JohnnyRebel}}-inspired prank space) checked under "Search in these namespaces by default" in the Search tab in their Preferences.  Since the search function defaults to only the mainspace, there's very little risk of hitting a userpage when searching for a Pokémon.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 21:18, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
All of the Japanese characters on all of the pages just show up as question marks. How can I fix this? --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|<font color="black"><small>S</small><sup>h</sup><small>i</small><sub>n</sub><small>y</small> <sup>N</sup><small>o</small><sub>c</sub><small>t</small><sup>o</sup><small>w</small><sub>l</sub></font>]] 15:14, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
::id like to jump in express my displeasure for people naming themselves ''directly'' after pokemon. but, i dont see it as a real serious issue, just a pain. get some originality people! -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAG</span>]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|<span style="color:#696969;">NE</span>]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">DETH</span>]]''' 00:44, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
:A note: Fricking Bulbabot created user {{u|Bulbasaur}}...'''[[User:Optimus35|<span class="explain" title="Optimus35"><sc>Optimatum</sc></span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]</sup>'''27 Apr 2008
::Why?[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 01:15, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
:::this site is based off Bulbasaur, so, it presumably wanted to create someone with that name to prevent it. i think the bot needs to create users of all the pokemon. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAG</span>]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|<span style="color:#696969;">NE</span>]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">DETH</span>]]''' 01:20, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
::::Um, Bulbabot creates ''all'' users. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:14, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::Uhh why all of a sudden are User puuting their name after actual Pokémon like User:Croagunk.... '''[[User:CoolPikachu!|<font color=#FF0000>Co</font><font color=#FFFF00>ol</font>]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|<font color=#00FF00>Pi</font><font color=#00FFFF>ka</font><font color=#0000FF>chu</font>]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|<font color=#FF00FF>!</font>]]'''
::::::since always. since people ran out of originality. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAG</span>]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|<span style="color:#696969;">NE</span>]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">DETH</span>]]''' 02:17, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::::{{tt|ohh|Like me -_-}} '''[[User:CoolPikachu!|<font color=#FF0000>Co</font><font color=#FFFF00>ol</font>]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|<font color=#00FF00>Pi</font><font color=#00FFFF>ka</font><font color=#0000FF>chu</font>]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|<font color=#FF00FF>!</font>]]'''
::::::::not entirely. you at least differentiated your name with the "cool". i hate to point him out, but our good friend {{u|Porygon-Z}} falls into that category... -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAG</span>]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|<span style="color:#696969;">NE</span>]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">DETH</span>]]''' 02:24, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::Right.  '''[[User:CoolPikachu!|<font color=#FF0000>Co</font><font color=#FFFF00>ol</font>]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|<font color=#00FF00>Pi</font><font color=#00FFFF>ka</font><font color=#0000FF>chu</font>]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|<font color=#FF00FF>!</font>]]'''
::::::::::Of course then there is my unoriginal name........[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 17:36, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::What's wrong with naming yourself after your favourite Pokemon? <span style="background:#000000">[[User:Porygon-Z|<span style="color:#00BFFF">'''Por'''</span>]][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|<span style="color:#FF1493">'''ygo'''</span>]][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|<span style="color:#00BFFF">'''n-Z'''</span>]]</span> 18:20, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::Nothings Wrong with it, but There are a lot of Users naming themselves after pokemon, which annoys me[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 18:46, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Well then THERE. '''| NOT''' <span style="background:#000000">[[User:Porygon-Z|<span style="color:#00BFFF">'''Por'''</span>]][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|<span style="color:#FF1493">'''ygo'''</span>]][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|<span style="color:#00BFFF">'''n-Z'''</span>]]</span> 18:57, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::::in my opinion, DCM is a collection of two unoriginal names into one fairly original. and the problems i have with users being named after pokemon is that there are pages for them, and its just weird/annoying to see. my fav is Magnemite, but im not Magnemite, im the Deth. why not Porygon-2000, or Porygon-Y2K, or Polygon-Z, or Porygonzo,<s> or PoryDETH</s>? PGZ, youre a cool guy, but, your name makes you sound unoriginal and bland (no offence). certainly not the sort of person id think to angerly destroy a bad Emerald version. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAG</span>]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|<span style="color:#696969;">NE</span>]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">DETH</span>]]''' 23:13, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::Porygon-Z isn't the original username I wanted either. I tried other things (which I can't remember) and they were taken so I just went with my favourite Pokemon. Maybe I'll just change my name to PGZ...<span style="background:#000000">[[User:Porygon-Z|<span style="color:#00BFFF">'''Por'''</span>]][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|<span style="color:#FF1493">'''ygo'''</span>]][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|<span style="color:#00BFFF">'''n-Z'''</span>]]</span> 23:28, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::How about, DEATH BY PGZ!!! That would be Cool.......... But would take to long to type in[[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:#000;">C is for Cookie</span>]] 00:29, 29 April 2008 (UTC)


== Help building a community ==
:I don't see them as question marks.  ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="#003366" face="comic sans ms">'''$aturn'''</font>]][[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="#008000" face="comic sans ms">'''¥oshi'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|<font color="#800000">THE VOICES</font>]]</sup> 15:17, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
::I know that it's just a problem with my computer, but how do I fix it? --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|<font color="black"><small>S</small><sup>h</sup><small>i</small><sub>n</sub><small>y</small> <sup>N</sup><small>o</small><sub>c</sub><small>t</small><sup>o</sup><small>w</small><sub>l</sub></font>]] 16:41, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
::Download Japanese onto your computer or GET A NEW ONE! '''[[User:LugiaFan|<span style="color:blue">''Lugia''</span>]][[User talk:LugiaFan|<span style="color:gray">''Rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"</span>]]''' 16:43, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Where's a page to download Japanese? --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|<font color="black"><small>S</small><sup>h</sup><small>i</small><sub>n</sub><small>y</small> <sup>N</sup><small>o</small><sub>c</sub><small>t</small><sup>o</sup><small>w</small><sub>l</sub></font>]] 19:07, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
::::For instructions, see [[wp:Help:Multilingual support (East Asian)|this page]].
::::You know, this is the second or third time I've directed a user to that page, not counting the time I used it myself to get half the sigs on this site to not appear as question marks. I think we should create a page of our own to include that information (the <code>Help:</code> namespace could use some content, anyway). Of course, I'm not sure about the legality of just copying their page, as wikis tend to involve all sorts of legal issues that go straight over my head. Admins, what are your thoughts? --[[User:Martonimos|<font color="#008000">Martonimos</font>]]<sub>[[User talk:Martonimos|((<font color="#00FF00">Argh</font>]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|<font color="#50C878">Blargh</font>))]]</sub> 00:26, 9 August 2008 (UTC) 
:::::Virtually every language shows up in the "Add..." diaglog ''except'' Chinese, Japanese, and Korean (the three languages I want to enable). --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|<font color="black"><small>S</small><sup>h</sup><small>i</small><sub>n</sub><small>y</small> <sup>N</sup><small>o</small><sub>c</sub><small>t</small><sup>o</sup><small>w</small><sub>l</sub></font>]] 00:22, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::What system are you using? I've done this a few times on XP computers, and it works fine. --[[User:Martonimos|<font color="#008000">Martonimos</font>]]<sub>[[User talk:Martonimos|((<font color="#00FF00">Argh</font>]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|<font color="#50C878">Blargh</font>))]]</sub> 00:26, 9 August 2008 (UTC)


I'm an admin on a James Bond wiki (I won't give the link unless I'm allowed as I don't intend to spam) and it looks like you guys have a very strong, large community here. This is definitely one of the better independent wikis out there from what I've seen of it. I'm just wondering if someone can tell me how you guys got to be so good, and if you can give me any advice on building a wiki community. Thanks :)--[[User:Cleanup man|Cleanup man]] 17:22, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
I found the checkbox but it says I have to insert the XP disk to copy the files or install the files from another location. Since my computer came with XP pre-installed, where can I download the files? --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|<font color="black"><small>S</small><sup>h</sup><small>i</small><sub>n</sub><small>y</small> <sup>N</sup><small>o</small><sub>c</sub><small>t</small><sup>o</sup><small>w</small><sub>l</sub></font>]] 01:55, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
:well, i cant speak on behalf of the entire community, but i can say that having the utmost amount of information is a great way to become noticeable. organization, and attention to detail also help quite a bit. im quite a Bond fan myself, id like to see your wiki. send me a link on my talk page. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAG</span>]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|<span style="color:#696969;">NE</span>]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">DETH</span>]]''' 17:33, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
::Hey, Cleanup man, how are you? I'm an admin over at Super Mario Wiki and I agree with you on the merits of Bulbapedia. I feel that it's strongest aspect is it's sensible organization. One can find everything one needs with a relative amount of ease. -- [[User:Bug Catcher Jam|Chris]][[Image:201MS.gif|201]] 16:07, 28 April 2008 (UTC)


== New game next month ==
:I don't think you can install without the disk, unfortunately. My laptop is exactly the same. However, I downloaded Firefox 3, and I think that has Asian-character support built-in, because soon after getting it, Kanji and Katakana and Hiragana all started working (online at least, I dunno if it applies to offline too). Perhaps trying that would be a good idea. (and of course, I've mentioned it many times before, Firefox > just about every other browser.) --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|<font color="#237d00"> '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>'''</font>]]<small>[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|<font color="#237d00">''.cнаt'''''^'''</font>]]</small> 02:46, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
::::Its free for download on the Microsoft official sites. Just search for "Download Japanese alphabet", or something similar.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 08:36, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::Hmm, last time I did a search like that on Microsoft, the only things that popped up were downloads for Office XP (which you're not allowed to download if you don't own Office). But a google search just now found [http://www.ukstudentlife.com/Life/Computer/Oriental.htm this]. I believe I remember downloading something like this a long time ago, as a matter of fact; on my old, Windows 98se computer. I don't know if the "reading Japanese" method they list here works, because when I visited one of the Japanese sites they listed in IE, the characters displayed correctly (apparently IE reaped the benefits of whatever Firefox did)... but worth a try. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|<font color="#237d00"> '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>'''</font>]]<small>[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|<font color="#237d00">''.cнаt'''''^'''</font>]]</small> 15:22, 9 August 2008 (UTC)


Has anybody thought that it is going to be a pokemon trozei sequal with gen 4 pokemon. [[User:Darkmaster0|Darkmaster0]] 03:21, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
== Slight problem. ==


:Probably not.  The only one of the post-Emerald pre-Generation IV spinoffs that deserved a sequel is {{pkmn|Ranger}}.  Neither {{pkmn|Trozei}} nor {{pkmn|Mystery Dungeon}} really deserved sequels (although Mystery Dungeon [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2|got one anyway]]). Besides, based on the patten the Mystery Dungeon and Ranger sequels fell in, if we were to get a Trozei sequal, it probably would have came before the Mystery Dungeon one...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 16:52, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
Every single time I try to access {{red link|Talk:Rocket Brothers}}, the message comes up "Internet Explorer has experienced a problem and has to close now blah blah blah"Is there something wrong with that talk page, or what?  I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 11:24, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
:Well, I just went to it alright, maybe it was just a coincedence... How many times did you try? [[User:Theininen|<span style="color:#008000;">The<span style="color:#0000CD;">in</span></span>]][[User talk:Theininen|<span style="color:#B22222;">in<span style="color:#ED9121;">en</span></span>]] 13:47, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
::If I'm reading that talk page correctly, there was a problem and now it's fixed... try holding down the Ctrl key and clicking your own link, that will force a refresh and hopefully fix any bugs that were cached in your end.
::Or, better yet, stop using Internet Explorer. There's a good number of formatting methods that return errors in I.E., just look at the layout of my userpage for example (works great in Firefox, completely messed up in I.E..) --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|<font color="#237d00"> '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>'''</font>]]<small>[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|<font color="#237d00">''.cнаt'''''^'''</font>]]</small> 13:53, 10 August 2008 (UTC)


::I'm just wondering, but why do you think Mystery Dungeon shouldn't have gotten a sequel? I realize you are entitled to your opinion, but I though it was a pretty good game and by all reports the sequel is much better. [[User:Noname|Noname]] And no, I don't think trozei will get a sequel.
== Just wondering ==
:::I'm a little skeptical of any argument that depends on "patterns", to be perfectly honest. After all, if we followed the "pattern" of last generation, we'd probably have GSDS by now. Anyway, I doubt the new game is a Trozei sequel or any sort of spin-off because it was shown to be the latest entry in a list of main-series titles. Everyone's figuring on it being DPV3, since FireRed and LeafGreen were left out of the list. --[[User:Martonimos|<span style="color:#008000;">Martonimos</span>]]<sub>[[User talk:Martonimos|((<span style="color:#00FF00;">Talk</span>))]]</sub> 23:39, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
:Woot, as long as they give us a GSDS, I'll wait fifteen years (maybe not)! '''[[User:Optimus35|<span class="explain" title="Optimus35"><sc>Optimatum</sc></span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]</sup>''06:37 3 May 2008'''''


== Bulbaquette? ==
I don't know where to post this question so I'm putting it here.


What is it with the frayed tempers on this wiki? It seems like all someone has to do is make one simple, stupid mistake before he has no fewer than five other users at his throat. Wikipedia has entire pages on things like {{wp|Wikipedia:Etiquette|etiquette}} and {{wp|Wikipedia:Civility|civility}}, so why are these principles so often ignored over here? I think some people need to refresh themselves on these principles, and start assuming good faith instead of telling a hard-working, long-time contributor to "go fuck yourself" after one honest mistake. Even newbies (the ones that aren't obvious vandals) deserve a chance to improve themselves before we start yelling at them. So can we please tone it down and try treating each other like human beings? Please? --[[User:Martonimos|<span style="color:#008000;">Martonimos</span>]]<sub>[[User talk:Martonimos|((<span style="color:#00FF00;">Talk</span>))]]</sub> 06:25, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
Would it be to much to ask for the 3D sprites from the 3D games (Stadium,Battle Revolution, etc.) to be in the articles? I always thought that they looked pretty cool and I figure they could have some small place in the articles kind of like the 3D sprites from the Smash Bros. series. Just a thought. [[User:Zabbethx|Zabbethx]] 18:24, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
:Once you start treating me like the alien I am, I'll start...'''[[User:Optimus35|<span class="explain" title="Optimus35"><sc>Optimatum</sc></span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]</sup>''06:29 3 May 2008'''''
:There's... there's no such thing as a 3-D sprite. --[[User:Martonimos|<font color="#008000">Martonimos</font>]]<sub>[[User talk:Martonimos|((<font color="#00FF00">Argh</font>]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|<font color="#50C878">Blargh</font>))]]</sub> 01:57, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
::Oh, same difference. "Model", if you want the proper term.--[[User:Urutapu|Loveはドコ?]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 02:09, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Well, we could probably get someone to rip the models and then take a screenshot. I'm not sure how good that would be, considering how many possible angles there are for a picture like that. --[[User:Martonimos|<font color="#008000">Martonimos</font>]]<sub>[[User talk:Martonimos|((<font color="#00FF00">Argh</font>]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|<font color="#50C878">Blargh</font>))]]</sub> 02:16, 13 August 2008 (UTC)


::PEOPLE SEEM TO FIND IT NECCESSARY TO USE CAPS LOCK AND ABUSE OTHERS BY SWEARING AND GOING RARAR AND ETC. BECAUSE THEY ARE IMPATIENT AND RARAR.
==DVDs==
::A bit of etiquette would go a long way, indeed. [[User:GlinnMgraw|<span style="color:#0000FF;">Glinn</span>]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|<span style="color:#0000FF;">Mgraw</span>]] 06:38, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
:::There also seem to be a lot more new users who barge in and think that they own the place, insulting other users, starting edit wars, etc[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:#000;">C is for Cookie</span>]] 12:53, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
::::Etiquette and civility are cool, yeah. But by far, my favorite creed is [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_be_a_dick don't be a dick.] --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|<font color="#237d00"> '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>'''</font>]]<small>[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|<font color="#237d00">''.cнаt'''''^'''</font>]]</small> 15:09, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::A-heh. Of course, this is a prime example of [http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/3/19/ Gabe's famous theory] (link may not be suitable for people afraid of swear words).
:::::DCM, can you provide an example of what you're talking about? The way I see it, the newbie shows up, makes one mistake, and suddenly gets the entire site on his talk page telling him where to shove it. It's true that some people are destructive and need to be dealt with, but I find that long-time users are much more hostile than most newbies ever are. Another Wikipedia policy we should look at is [[wp:Wikipedia:Please do not bite the newcomers|don't bite the newbies]].
:::::{{u|Flystar5555}} is a good example. Although he wasn't new, he got on for the first time in a while, screwed up, and suddenly had two users making fun of him because he doesn't have the font packs to render dots, stars, and Japanese characters (I have the same problem; half the site appears to me as question marks) until {{u|Kenji-girl}} stepped in to calm things down. I mean, seriously, why can't we just be nice to each other for a change? We should use our edit summaries to ''summarize edits'', not criticize the last person to touch the page. --[[User:Martonimos|<span style="color:#008000;">Martonimos</span>]]<sub>[[User talk:Martonimos|((<span style="color:#00FF00;">Talk</span>))]]</sub> 22:05, 3 May 2008 (UTC)


::::::Having a few friendly users really makes a huge difference, I can say that from experience. As a matter of fact, shortly after I first joined GuildWiki, I was trying to make a page in my userspace. At the time, I didn't know how to do this, so as a test, I made the ??? article. I was pretty confused when it wasn't there three minutes later (someone had spotted and deleted it, because it was in mainspace). I ended up creating it multiple times, and didn't realize what I was doing until someone told me to stop. He was friendly enough about it though, and after letting me explain what I was trying to do, the user an an admin explained how to do it, instead of getting mad.
I was wondering if we could put DVD releases on the Season pages?
::::::Less then a year later, I'm part of the 0.06% of the userbase with admin rights there. Imagine if someone had just seen my first edits as vandalism and blocked me right away instead. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|<font color="#237d00"> '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>'''</font>]]<small>[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|<font color="#237d00">''.cнаt'''''^'''</font>]]</small> 22:44, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Or if they had yelled at you for it and scared you away from the site. --[[User:Martonimos|<span style="color:#008000;">Martonimos</span>]]<sub>[[User talk:Martonimos|((<span style="color:#00FF00;">Talk</span>))]]</sub> 23:15, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::::I was just thinking, what about having a few admins for specifically the User:/User talk pages. I have seen a flooding of this, and unfortunately, they are always not the most productive conversations. How about having a few admins whos's job it is to basically watch the user/ user talk pages?[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:#000;">C is for Cookie</span>]] 21:54, 6 May 2008 (UTC)


:::::::::So, kind of like '''moderators is to forums''' as '''[proposed idea] is to Bulbapedia'''?  I simply think it would be a good idea to have a couple more admins. May I suggest {{u|PH34R}}?  --[[User:Politoed666|<span style="color:#30D5C8">ニョロトノ</span>]][[User talk:Politoed666|<span style="color:#FF69B4">''666''</span>]] 22:13, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
--[[User:HoennMaster|--HoennMaster]] 05:38, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::I think I am explaining myself badly, but basically add more admin, so more people will be able to prevent the abuse or vandalism of bulbapedia[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:#000;">C is for Cookie</span>]] 22:21, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
:Sure.  We want to put DVD information somewhere and that's a good place for it. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|</sup> 12:35, 14 August 2008 (UTC)


:::::::::::Some more guidelines might do that job just as well (I'm not really in favor of userspace policies, but official guidelines on what not to use userspace for would be good). Right now, you can't really complain to users who spam userspace; they're not breaking any rules, and most of them don't really know of any harm they could be doing. A simple guideline or two that just explains why and why not to post certain conversations on Bulbapedia might help; just some unofficial rules, etc.
== i have an idea!!! ==
:::::::::::To be completely fair, simple conversations won't lag the whole server down much, it's just a problem if lots of people are editing all at the same time. Say, fifteen~ conversations going on at once, that could just as easily be going on via instant messenger... --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|<font color="#237d00"> '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>'''</font>]]<small>[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|<font color="#237d00">''.cнаt'''''^'''</font>]]</small> 04:50, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::W-ell... the admins ''were'' looking for some people to monitor the User space, to make sure people don't edit it too much after they lift the ban. I don't think they were planning on giving them administrative powers, but it could make it a lot easier... they could protect the userpages to prevent them from being edited too much. Still, I doubt they would want to give too many more people that kind of power.
::::::::::::By the way, how does this pertain to Bulbaquette? Are you saying the proposed admins would be there to admonish people who get too hostile? Because I think normal users can do that, as long as they don't get overly hostile themselves. It's not like admins are immune from feeling anger, either. --[[User:Martonimos|<font color="#008000">Martonimos</font>]]<sub>[[User talk:Martonimos|((<font color="#00FF00">Talk</font>))]]</sub> 05:54, 7 May 2008 (UTC)


== ATTENTION: ALL GOOD BATTLERS/ANYONE WHO WANTS TO LOOK o.O ==
Lets put the footprint and party sprites of all gens on too!!!
And for trainers we can have their walk-around sprites!!! And for HMs we can show pictures of the effect in action for each gen!!![[User:Whatswithalltheextraspace|Whatswithalltheextraspace]] 22:06, 14 August 2008 (UTC)


*For all good battlers (or anyone else), i have an announcement:  
:Feel free to do so. --[[User:Politoed666|<span style="color:#30D5C8">ニョロトノ</span>]][[User talk:Politoed666|<span style="color:#FF69B4">''666''</span>]] 22:09, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
*I have been chosen for recruiting for a new "secret site"
*If you are interested, post on my talk page, or post after this, and i will get to you
*You will be selected after you are tested. You will be assigned a tester when i get to you
*Thanks Patriotfan09 21:14, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
:'''New Announcement:'''
*And, TESTING IS CANCELED, there is NO Further testing, so the link is below. anyone is free to join. please spread the word
*LOLWUT
*sorry for posting this, if it offends you <span style="background:black">[[User:Patriotfan09|<font color="#1E90FF">'''Patriot'''</font>]][[User talk:Patriotfan09|<font color="#DC143C">'''fan'''</font>]][[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|<font color="#1E90FF">'''09'''</font>]]</span> 15:17, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
:Wow, grow up. [[User:Ketsuban|Ketsuban]] 21:47, 18 May 2008 (UTC)


== Help for the Helpless ==
um... how?[[User:Whatswithalltheextraspace|Whatswithalltheextraspace]] 22:11, 14 August 2008 (UTC)


If you find yourself without any useful contribs to make, the stub link on the front page and the random page links can be very useful.  You can often find pages that you could hugely contribute to that you otherwise would not have known existed, or thought to be so lacking.  I was amazed at how short some pages I expected to be mainstream edits were, and how many were stubs.  Take a look around, and some things that are common knowledge aren't posted sometimes! This is not intended as a complaint or reason for a full-on examination of every article on Bulbapedia, merely something for people who want to contribute and can find no other way to. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 01:48, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
== Suggestions in search box ==
:If you want to tell them how to edit, we've got Unbounded tasks on the Main Page. It helps. A lot. It explains itself. Posted by the '''[[User:Optimus35|<span class="explain" title="Optimus35"><sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc></span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]</sup>''02:02 11 May 2008'''''
::You can help with relinking, too. Just go to any redirect page and click on "what links here". If anything does, go to that page and change the links to lead to the actual page instead of the redirect. --[[User:Martonimos|<font color="#008000">Martonimos</font>]]<sub>[[User talk:Martonimos|((<font color="#00FF00">Talk</font>))]]</sub> 02:54, 11 May 2008 (UTC)


== Search name space ==
Hey, when did we get them? I go to sleep, I wake up, and here they are... Congrats. This makes life easier. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|electAbuzzzz]] <sup>([[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|TALK]])</sup> 11:00, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
:Part of the MediaWiki program. Wikimeda FOundation has them too. '''[[User:Optimus35|<span class="explain" title="Optimus35"><sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc></span>]]<sub>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]</sub>''11:07 15 Aug 2008'''''


Is anyone else where User and User talk is listed on there twice, near the top and at the bottom?[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:#000;">C is for Cookie</span>]] 18:59, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
== Can't Upload ==
:The latter one is a remnant of the April Fools' joke. It's actually the not-quite-Userspace that all the userpages were moved to during the prank. I think Zhen or TTE mentioned the namespace would be removed later on, for now I don't think there's anything in there. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|<font color="#237d00"> '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>'''</font>]]<small>[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|<font color="#237d00">''.cнаt'''''^'''</font>]]</small> 01:50, 10 May 2008 (UTC)


== Pokemon D/P trio game revealed? ==
Why can't I upload? [[User:Alakazam 2|Alakazam 2]]
:Are you trying to upload on Bulbapedia, or Bulbagarden Archives. You aren't able to do it on Bulbapedia anymore, it must be through the archives. Just click "Upload file" on the side bar. ''[[User:Moldy orange|<sup style="color:#4B5320;">'''Moldy'''</sup>]][[User talk:Moldy orange|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''Orange'''</sub>]]'' 22:46, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
::Anymore? Last time we could was before ''I'' joined. Meaning before August, 2006. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:09, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
:::But you are saying that there ''was'' a point where you could upload on this wiki. :P --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|<font color="#237d00"> '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>'''</font>]]<small>[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|<font color="#237d00">''.cнаt'''''^'''</font>]]</small> 07:29, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
::::And if you click on a link to an image that hasn't been uploaded, it still gives you the option on the page, such as.  On the page, it says "No file by this name exists, you can upload it."; when you click on the link, it tells you that uploading is disabled. Maybe someone should change the page to redirect to the archives. [[User:Theininen|<span style="color:#008000;">The<span style="color:#0000CD;">in</span></span>]][[User talk:Theininen|<span style="color:#B22222;">in<span style="color:#ED9121;">en</span></span>]] 15:11, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::On the very left side of every page in the toolbox is the link "Upload file". Clicking that automatically goes to the Archives' upload page, but you'll need to make an account there, too.--[[User:Urutapu|Loveはドコ?]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 17:03, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::Is it still required, even after unified accounts were introduced? --[[User:Pokeresp|Pokeresp]] 06:35, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::::[[Bulbapedia:Messages from the Editor#June 9|Nope.]] --[[User:Martonimos|<font color="#008000">Martonimos</font>]]<sub>[[User talk:Martonimos|((<font color="#00FF00">Argh</font>]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|<font color="#50C878">Blargh</font>))]]</sub> 07:10, 18 August 2008 (UTC)


Recently, a CoroCoro sacan was made depicting a trio in the gen. 4 games. It's name is Pokemon Platinum. For more information, go [http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml here].--[[User:Pkmn|Pkmn]] 16:01, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
== New feature ==
:it also says: "however it is not be 100% confirmed yet". [[User:Kenn1985|<span style="color:#3333CC">~ kenn </span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Kenn1985|<span style="color:#3333CC">Talk</span>]]</sup> 16:15, 11 May 2008 (UTC)


::Okay. First of all, this discussion should be [[Talk:Pokémon Platinum|here]], not on the discussion area designated for the Main Page. Second of all, we can all see the damn scan. For reasons I've stated on {{u|FPU}}'s talk page, we need to wait until the magazine comes out. --[[User:Politoed666|<span style="color:#30D5C8">ニョロトノ</span>]][[User talk:Politoed666|<span style="color:#FF69B4">''666''</span>]] 16:16, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi everybody. I have a suggestion of a new feature that could be implemented here in the wiki. I would like to read your opinion on having a feature that allows everyone to listen to Pokémon's crys. Let's say that I go to Pikachu's article and I want to hear to its cry. Then I see a "Play" button that would play the respective audio file hosted on the server. I'm suggesting this because Psypoke has such feature. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 15:09, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Yeah, like you really expect someone to be able to post a comment of the talk page of a non-existant page.--[[User:Pkmn|Pkmn]] 00:08, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:We may implement it in the future. Wait and see. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:07, 19 August 2008 (UTC)


::::In response to your apparent sarcasm, that's entirely possible.  --[[User:Politoed666|<span style="color:#30D5C8">ニョロトノ</span>]][[User talk:Politoed666|<span style="color:#FF69B4">''666''</span>]] 21:04, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
== An abundance ==


:::::Here's a better scan of the Preview and [[Dialga]] and [[Palkia]] in the Background and [[Giratina]]"Origin Forme" and [[Cyrus]]
There is an abundance users returning now that the User Space is back.,......[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:##800000;">Your Friendly Neighborhood Cookie Monster</span>]]
I have a bigger one...but I shrunk this one to fit http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff194/CoolPikachu/20080513_corocoro-scan.jpg '''[[User:CoolPikachu!|<font color=#FF0000>Co</font><font color=#FFFF00>ol</font>]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|<font color=#00FF00>Pi</font><font color=#00FFFF>ka</font><font color=#0000FF>chu</font>]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|<font color=#FF00FF>!</font>]]'''
:but there hasnt been much in the way of abuse...-- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAG</span>]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|<span style="color:#696969;">NE</span>]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">DETH</span>]]''' 01:54, 19 August 2008 (UTC)


:Drools....•'''<span style="border: 2px solid #000000; font-family:Calibri;">[[User:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#000000;">Poke</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#000000;">maniac</span>]]<span class="explain" title="(╥ _ ─)">102</span></span>''' 00:18, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
== 12,000 ==
::This "game"9if it's real)seems REALLY BETTER than last one except for [[Lucas]]new look.'''[[User:CoolPikachu!|<font color=#FF0000>Co</font><font color=#FFFF00>ol</font>]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|<font color=#00FF00>Pi</font><font color=#00FFFF>ka</font><font color=#0000FF>chu</font>]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|<font color=#FF00FF>!</font>]]'''
:::It's beautiful....*angels start singing* '''<span style="background:#4B0082">[[User:Pachirisulover12|<span style="color:#FFD700">PL</span>]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|<span style="color:#FFA500">12</span>]]</span>''' 00:20, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Yes it is........:)(I HOPE THIS'S A REAL GAME!NEW GYM LEADER,POKEMON FORMS,WI-FI UNDERGROUND,BATTLE ISLAND AND MORE I WISH THEY WOULD PUT THAT IN THE GAME:) ) '''[[User:CoolPikachu!|<font color=#FF0000>Co</font><font color=#FFFF00>ol</font>]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|<font color=#00FF00>Pi</font><font color=#00FFFF>ka</font><font color=#0000FF>chu</font>]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|<font color=#FF00FF>!</font>]]'''
::::Awesome, and the Giratina coming out of the ground looks AWESOME!!!!!!•'''<span style="border: 2px solid #000000; font-family:Calibri;">[[User:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#000000;">Poke</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#000000;">maniac</span>]]<span class="explain" title="(╥ _ ─)">102</span></span>''' 00:27, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::I have a question, how can it be fake??•'''<span style="border: 2px solid #000000; font-family:Calibri;">[[User:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#000000;">Poke</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#000000;">maniac</span>]]<span class="explain" title="(╥ _ ─)">102</span></span>''' 00:33, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::They may try to change somethings or be a Hoax I don't know '''[[User:CoolPikachu!|<font color=#FF0000>Co</font><font color=#FFFF00>ol</font>]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|<font color=#00FF00>Pi</font><font color=#00FFFF>ka</font><font color=#0000FF>chu</font>]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|<font color=#FF00FF>!</font>]]'''
:::::::The magazine seems so real... the images seem so real... the everything... I'm getting overly obsessed...•'''<span style="border: 2px solid #000000; font-family:Calibri;">[[User:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#000000;">Poke</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#000000;">maniac</span>]]<span class="explain" title="(╥ _ ─)">102</span></span>''' 00:40, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::::So am I....sigh:)...'''[[User:CoolPikachu!|<font color=#FF0000>Co</font><font color=#FFFF00>ol</font>]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|<font color=#00FF00>Pi</font><font color=#00FFFF>ka</font><font color=#0000FF>chu</font>]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|<font color=#FF00FF>!</font>]]'''
:::::::::Ugh, TTE hates the image and is very angry... Where did you get that scan???•'''<span style="border: 2px solid #000000; font-family:Calibri;">[[User:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#000000;">Poke</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#000000;">maniac</span>]]<span class="explain" title="(╥ _ ─)">102</span></span>''' 00:59, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::Y does TTE hate it?And I have it scaned from a friend '''[[User:CoolPikachu!|<font color=#FF0000>Co</font><font color=#FFFF00>ol</font>]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|<font color=#00FF00>Pi</font><font color=#00FFFF>ka</font><font color=#0000FF>chu</font>]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|<font color=#FF00FF>!</font>]]'''
:::::::::::He doesn't believe it at all.  He wants scans from the entire magazine THEN HE'LL BELIEVE IT•'''<span style="border: 2px solid #000000; font-family:Calibri;">[[User:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#000000;">Poke</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#000000;">maniac</span>]]<span class="explain" title="(╥ _ ─)">102</span></span>''' 01:02, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::Don't hate it, but remember, we did get those "scans" about Gold and Silver remakes around a year ago. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:05, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Yea you do hate it. You totally got all angry and scary on Aim.•'''<span style="border: 2px solid #000000; font-family:Calibri;">[[User:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#000000;">Poke</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#000000;">maniac</span>]]<span class="explain" title="(╥ _ ─)">102</span></span>''' 01:07, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::::Well,it's not mine photo but from a friend and more specific an online friend not hey I see you every and at schoo-type of friend  '''[[User:CoolPikachu!|<font color=#FF0000>Co</font><font color=#FFFF00>ol</font>]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|<font color=#00FF00>Pi</font><font color=#00FFFF>ka</font><font color=#0000FF>chu</font>]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|<font color=#FF00FF>!</font>]]'''
:::::::::::::::Well than get your "friend" to get scans of the whole magazine•'''<span style="border: 2px solid #000000; font-family:Calibri;">[[User:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#000000;">Poke</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#000000;">maniac</span>]]<span class="explain" title="(╥ _ ─)">102</span></span>''' 01:19, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::kk '''[[User:CoolPikachu!|<font color=#FF0000>Co</font><font color=#FFFF00>ol</font>]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|<font color=#00FF00>Pi</font><font color=#00FFFF>ka</font><font color=#0000FF>chu</font>]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|<font color=#FF00FF>!</font>]]'''


I thought for sure it was going to be called Pokemon Onyx. [[User:Boywonder01|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''Boy'''</span>]][[User talk:Boywonder01|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''wonder'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Boywonder01|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''01'''</span>]] 11:47, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
Do you think we'll hit 12,000 articles today? --[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 18:03, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
:*Drools........ I wish I could get that........[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:#000;">C is for Cookie</span>]] 11:54, 14 May 2008 (UTC)


Famitsu has an article on the game as well, the same stuff as in Coro Coro. If this doesn't prove it, I don't know what will. [http://wiieveryday.blogspot.com/2008/05/famitsu-20080516.html] [[User:Goldchaos|Goldchaos]] 17:58, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
:Highly unlikely. Tomorrow, maybe. --[[User:Politoed666|<span style="color:#30D5C8">ニョロトノ</span>]][[User talk:Politoed666|<span style="color:#FF69B4">''666''</span>]] 18:10, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
::My money is on the 23rd.44 articles in one day seems improbable[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:##800000;">Good Day;DCM</span>]]


== 27 more articles... ==
If I had to put money on it, I'd do today because theres only 11 articles left! --[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 17:28, 21 August 2008 (UTC)


And then we have two memes here. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:01, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
== Featured Article ==


:First person to say over 9000! will be shot. [[User:GlinnMgraw|<span style="color:#0000FF;">Glinn</span>]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|<span style="color:#0000FF;">Mgraw</span>]] 08:10, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
Finally an article is actually, um, featured. Featured articles are no longer pointless, and it's a nice touch on the front page. <span style="background:#000000">[[User:Porygon-Z|<span style="color:#00BFFF">'''Por'''</span>]][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|<span style="color:#FF1493">'''ygo'''</span>]][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|<span style="color:#00BFFF">'''n-Z'''</span>]]</span> 16:42, 21 August 2008 (UTC)


How many articles will we have? [[User:Noname|Noname]]
:At my prodding, TTE finally did it.  It's been well over a year since [[Brock]] was nominated, and it finally achieved FA status.  --[[User:Politoed666|<span style="color:#30D5C8">ニョロトノ</span>]][[User talk:Politoed666|<span style="color:#FF69B4">''666''</span>]] 17:20, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
::I voted for Brock also:p. I am awesome[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:##800000;">Good Day;DCM</span>]]
:::I think we should have a new one on there everyday. <span style="background:#000000">[[User:Porygon-Z|<span style="color:#00BFFF">'''Por'''</span>]][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|<span style="color:#FF1493">'''ygo'''</span>]][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|<span style="color:#00BFFF">'''n-Z'''</span>]]</span> 00:57, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
::::That would take alot of Article Featuring...I FEATURE MY USER PAGE!!!!!!!![[User:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:##800000;">Good Day;DCM</span>]] 00:59, 22 August 2008 (UTC)


12 more to go.... <span style="color:#0000FF">--'''''Posted by'''''</span> [[User:Deadlymethane|<span style="color:#7BA05B">'''''Deadly'''''</span>]][[User talk:Deadlymethane|<span style="color:#7BA05B">'''''methane'''''</span>]] <span style="color:#DA3287">'''at'''</span> 20:34, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
I'd Featur Every User subpage!--[[User:Kuki|<span style="color:#b00000;">Kuki</span>]][[User talk:Kuki|<span style="color:#2c40a4;">Ta</span><span style="color:#049440;">lk</span>]] 01:17, 22 August 2008 (UTC)


Just 8 left. ([[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 08:20, 14 May 2008 (UTC))
== Gen I==


:I seem to have done it! --[[User:Politoed666|<span style="color:#30D5C8">ニョロトノ</span>]][[User talk:Politoed666|<span style="color:#FF69B4">''666''</span>]] 20:21, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
Gen I IS complete!
::<s>No, article 9000 is the next one to be made.</s> --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|</sup> 20:22, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Huh.  The main page is saying 8,999 but the Statistics page is saying 9,002. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|</sup> 20:26, 14 May 2008 (UTC)


::::I think the Main Page takes a minute or two to update itself.  In any case, I've made about the last 7 articles, so I feel special.  : D  --[[User:Politoed666|<span style="color:#30D5C8">ニョロトノ</span>]][[User talk:Politoed666|<span style="color:#FF69B4">''666''</span>]] 20:32, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
== New Header ==


:Actually, I didn't notice that you had made [[Pokémon Platinum]].  Also, some n00b created a page on [[Masakazu Fukuda]].  It wasn't categorized and it's a stub, though.  In any case, it'll be close.  --[[User:Politoed666|<span style="color:#30D5C8">ニョロトノ</span>]][[User talk:Politoed666|<span style="color:#FF69B4">''666''</span>]] 20:36, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
That's cool! Would be awesome if it linked to Bulbagarden, too! <span style="background:#000000">[[User:Porygon-Z|<span style="color:#00BFFF">'''Por'''</span>]][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|<span style="color:#FF1493">'''ygo'''</span>]][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|<span style="color:#00BFFF">'''n-Z'''</span>]]</span> 18:08, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
::No, that would be somewha tobnoxious.Its obnoxious as it is[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:##800000;">Good Day;DCM</span>]]


:Masakazu Fukuda was 9,001. Platinum was 9,002. Whatever card article you made before those two was 9,000. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|</sup> 00:37, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
:It's nice, aye, but a bit...intrusive. Well, big. For those of us that would prefer not to have it, can't you guys put an option to disable it in User Preferences or something?
::And I fail to see how it's "obnoxious". Bulbapedia is a part of Bulbagarden, this is just part of global design consistency. [[User:Cipher|Cipher]] 19:09, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Do you know of any other wiki's with a picture of a girl and her faithful {{tt|companion|ie pokemon}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:##800000;">Good Day;DCM</span>]]
::::Most other wikis aren't part of a network of sites (except Wikia, and they really do splatter their name all over every wiki on the domain). Regardless, I'm not gonna bother discussing whether or not it's obnoxious, I just pointed out my view in passing. All I want to know is if an option can be made available to turn it off. [[User:Cipher|Cipher]] 19:16, 22 August 2008 (UTC)


IT'S OVER 9000!!!! It's official. We now have over 9,000 articles. <span style="color:#0000FF">--'''''Posted by'''''</span> [[User:Deadlymethane|<span style="color:#7BA05B">'''''Deadly'''''</span>]][[User talk:Deadlymethane|<span style="color:#7BA05B">'''''methane'''''</span>]] <span style="color:#DA3287">'''at'''</span> 00:34, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::Obnoxious.  Very.  Too much so.  Please make it smaller.  ''Please.'' --[[User:Politoed666|<span style="color:#30D5C8">ニョロトノ</span>]][[User talk:Politoed666|<span style="color:#FF69B4">''666''</span>]] 19:39, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
:Kill kill kill kill die die die. [[User:GlinnMgraw|<span style="color:#0000FF;">Glinn</span>]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|<span style="color:#0000FF;">Mgraw</span>]] 09:28, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
:Now hopefully the wanted pages will be updated again. ''[[User:Moldy orange|<sup style="color:#4B5320;">'''Moldy'''</sup>]][[User talk:Moldy orange|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''Orange'''</sub>]]'' 00:46, 15 May 2008 (UTC)


*throws confetti* Wahoo! [[User:Midnight Celtic|<span style="color:#9966CC;">Midnight]][[User talk:Midnight Celtic|Celtic</span>]] 00:49, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
:I have to agree it's intrusive... cute and nice, but still intrusive. I'd have to ask for it to be togglable in the options menu too. [[User:Toastypk|<span style="color:#BB0000">'''''~Toastypk'''''</span>]] - [[User_Talk:Toastypk|<span style="color:#770077">'''<sup>Loom.</sup></span>''']] 19:59, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
::To remove it, go to "User:''(your username)''/monobook.css" and add the following line:
<pre>#bg-header {display: none}</pre>


:The 9000th article on Bulbapedia would be...{{TCG ID|EX Crystal Guardians|Tauros|12}}!  --[[User:Politoed666|<span style="color:#30D5C8">ニョロトノ</span>]][[User talk:Politoed666|<span style="color:#FF69B4">''666''</span>]] 01:39, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
--[[User:Shiny Noctowl|<font color="black"><small>S</small><sup>h</sup><small>i</small><sub>n</sub><small>y</small> <sup>N</sup><small>o</small><sub>c</sub><small>t</small><sup>o</sup><small>w</small><sub>l</sub></font>]] 21:28, 22 August 2008 (UTC)


== Can you edit userpages again? ==
Does Bulbagarden have a portal page? A base leading into Bulbapedia, and the forums, and whatnot... there should be a link to that somewhere in the header if so. As it is, it's slightly off-color for the rest of the site(s), and way to big for what it's doing (which is nothing). An option to turn it off would definately be nice, or at the least, make it a bit smaller. You can still fit Erica and Bulbasaur in at half the height, and most of the users here have good enough eyesight to handle smaller text as well. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|<font color="#237d00"> '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>'''</font>]]<small>[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|<font color="#237d00">''.cнаt'''''^'''</font>]]</small> 20:12, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Title says it all ([[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 15:57, 18 May 2008 (UTC))
:Nope. --[[User:Martonimos|<font color="#008000">Martonimos</font>]]<sub>[[User talk:Martonimos|((<font color="#00FF00">Talk</font>))]]</sub> 21:05, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
:Why don't you try before asking? The userpage space will remain blocked until people grow up and stop using it for junk like fanfiction. [[User:Ketsuban|Ketsuban]] 21:48, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
::i guess we have to stick with [[:User_talk:Origamiguy#help|talkpages]]<small>'''<span style="background:#FFFFFF; border:2px solid #000000; font-family:Verdana;">[[:User:Origamiguy|<FONT COLOR="#808080">Origami</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF8000">Guy</FONT>]]</span><FONT COLOR="#000000">-</FONT><span style="background:#FFFFFF; border:2px solid #000000; font-family:Verdana;">[[:User_talk:Origamiguy|<FONT COLOR="#808080">Talk</FONT>]]</span>-<span style="background:#FFFFFF; border:2px solid #000000; font-family:Verdana;">[[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|<FONT COLOR="#FF8000">Contribs</FONT>]]</span>-<span style="background:#FFFFFF; border:2px solid #000000; font-family:Verdana;">[[:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|<FONT COLOR="#0080FF">Mudkipz</FONT>]]</span>'''</small> 18:15, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
:::What he's trying to say is "there's a question on my talk page I want answered. Answer my question please." --[[User:Martonimos|<font color="#008000">Martonimos</font>]]<sub>[[User talk:Martonimos|((<font color="#00FF00">Talk</font>))]]</sub> 19:10, 21 May 2008 (UTC)


== something needs a line!! ==
:To combine Geo's 2 comments into one idea: make the header ''into'' the portal thing.  it would be visible, easy, accessable, and if they made a built-in "hide" option, so much the better (and new users would see ''it'' first, also maybe making the forum better known to them, rather than the userpages). [[User:Theininen|<span style="color:#008000;">The<span style="color:#0000CD;">in</span></span>]][[User talk:Theininen|<span style="color:#B22222;">in<span style="color:#ED9121;">en</span></span>]]


on the homepage, between stubs and browsing there should be a line but there isnt one.
== User Name ==


I think someone should fix it. i dont really care, but i just wanted to let you know.
Is there a way to change your username? [[User:Porygon-man|Porygon-man]] 19:15, 22 August 2008 (UTC)


--[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 21:57, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Talk to {{u|Zhen Lin}}--[[User:Kuki|<span style="color:#b00000;">Kuki</span>]][[User talk:Kuki|<span style="color:#2c40a4;">Ta</span><span style="color:#049440;">lk</span>]] 19:16, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
:There is no need for one right there... <small>'''<span style="border:2px solid #0000FF; font-family:Verdana; text-decoration:blink">[[User:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#73C3FB;">P</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#73C2FB;">M</span>]][[Special:Random|<span style="color:#73C3FB;">102</span>]]</span>'''</small> 22:07, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
:You must have a good reason[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:##800000;">Good Day;DCM</span>]] 19:16, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
::If both were justified in the same manner, there would be. But they aren't. One's on the left and one's on the right. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:02, 26 May 2008 (UTC)


== Aeroblast Deoxys??? ==
== Template:villainous teams ==


...that Aeroblast and Psycho Boost are the signature moves of Lugia and Deoxys, respectively, however both can have the other's signature move through special means?
Should we add Team Yamiyami to the template? it doesn't have a page, but it is a team, and we should also have someone with the game make a page for it, as we really should have one. [[User:Theininen|<span style="color:#008000;">The<span style="color:#0000CD;">in</span></span>]][[User talk:Theininen|<span style="color:#B22222;">in<span style="color:#ED9121;">en</span></span>]] 22:24, 22 August 2008 (UTC)


May I ask how Deoxys can learn Aeroblast? [[User:The Placebo Effect|The Placebo Effect]] 12:18, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
I have beaten the game. I dont know if i could do a page on them, but i could help add tiny bits to it. Team Yamiyami needs a page says I! -Rabla, 20:32, 26 August 2008
: It is a rumor created by a [http://youtube.com/watch?v=G0MdvV8qP_k&feature=related hacker]. Deoxys cannot learn Aeroblast, nor do any event Deoxys come with that move. [[User:Trainer-c|Trainer-c]] 14:24, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
::So why is it on the mian page when it is false? [[User:The Placebo Effect|The Placebo Effect]] 15:06, 27 May 2008 (UTC)


It's not falseIt was from an event in the UK--[[User:Kuki|<span style="color:#b00000;">Kuki</span>]][[User talk:Kuki|<span style="color:#2c41a4;">Ta</span><span style="color:#049440;">lk</span>]] 15:09, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
:Thank you!  When (and if) i get the game, I'll try to help tooBut what about the template? anyone with sufficent authority to tell me yes or no? [[User:Theininen|<span style="color:#008000;">The<span style="color:#0000CD;">in</span></span>]][[User talk:Theininen|<span style="color:#B22222;">in<span style="color:#ED9121;">en</span></span>]] 16:59, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
:Every person that has attended the UK Deoxys event that I have seen posting has confirmed the rumor to be false. It is also not listed on [http://www.serebii.net/games/events-pkmn.shtml Serebii.net's] (a UK site) list of legit event Pokémon, or any other site's list for that matter. [[User:Trainer-c|Trainer-c]] 15:42, 27 May 2008 (UTC)


== Downtime? ==
== Generation IV ==


So. Yesterday, whenever I tried to access Bulbapedia or any BMG site, I got a 403 error message. By this afternoon, it had simply become a "unable to connect" error. Even now, the archives are giving me the same problem. But when I look at the RCs, I don't see any significant gaps where I'd think they'd be. So what's going on? Am I the only one who couldn't access the sites? And if there was downtime, [hope]was it indicative of a server switch[/hope]? --[[User:Martonimos|<font color="#008000">Martonimos</font>]]<sub>[[User talk:Martonimos|((<font color="#00FF00">Talk</font>))]]</sub> 06:40, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
Um, it's finished. [[User:TheStick|TheStick]]
:I got the same messages you did. Maybe the server broke. However the Archives are still down so that's why we can't see pictures that were submitted to the archive. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#0005CD;">☆</span>]][[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#15E200;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#DC0062;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 06:52, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
::Same here. <span style="border: 1px solid #000000;">[[User:Yinyang1195|<span style="color:#000000;">Yin</span>]][[User talk:Yinyang1195|<span style="background:#000000;"><span style="color:#FFFFFF;">Yang</span></span>]]</span> 06:54, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Ditto.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 06:56, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
::::And the images still doesnt work ([[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 07:06, 1 June 2008 (UTC))
:::::We overran the quota for the month. Way overran it. WAY overran. Seriously. We needs the donations. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:30, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::Yup --[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 07:33, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I couldn't get on here until...like now D: I was worried the site had died forever or something *hasn't been able too get on for 2 days* [[User:Takoto|<span style="color:#2E0854"><b>Takoto タコト</b></span>]]|<span style="color:#F4C2C2"> サソデイ = 愛</span> 12:31, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
:So...what happened to Archy (Archaic)? '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <span class="explain" title="Optimus35"><sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc></span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]</sup>''12:59 1 Jun 2008'''''


== Poképedia ==
:Um, What's Finished? [[User:Cal05000|Cal05000]] 20:42, 27 August 2008 (UTC)


The name of this wiki should be Poképedia, not Bulbapedia! Change the name please. Thanks [[User:TeePee-20.7|TeePee-20.7]] 15:49, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
== Abilities ==
:Uh, no.  This is a Bulbagrden site so it gets the "Bulba" brand name.  It is certainly too well known to change to something more uncreative now. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|</sup> 15:56, 1 June 2008 (UTC)


::Plus, site name change is impossible. In addition, name taken, conversation over.--[[User:Kuki|<span style="color:#b00000;">Kuki</span>]][[User talk:Kuki|<span style="color:#2c41a4;">Ta</span><span style="color:#049440;">lk</span>]] 15:59, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
Abilities are done. Could any of the admins remove the table and the other things that are done? It looks bad because of the table. <span style="color:#0000FF;">tc26</span> 10:33, 24 August 2008 (UTC)


:::Wow you two are very biased. Poképedia is not "something more uncreative", it is more general and unbiased. This wiki isn't about bulbasaur, it's about Pokémon. Otherwise why not change it to a title inspired by my favourite Pokémon, and call it "Charpedia". Why is a site name change impossible? And in addition it has been taken? So are you telling me a wiki named "Poképedia" already exists? If so provide me with a link please, thanks. [[User:TeePee-20.7|TeePee-20.7]] 16:29, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
== I think the Japanese names of characters' pokemon are wrong... ==
::::[http://www.pokepedia.fr/index.php/Accueil here you go]. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAG</span>]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|<span style="color:#696969;">NE</span>]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">DETH</span>]]''' 16:33, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
Isn't that just the french version of this wiki? Can't Poképedia be the main name and then just have all the other languages extended from the main site? This seems to be setup very similar to Wikipedia, so why not keep that aspect the same also? [[User:TeePee-20.7|TeePee-20.7]] 16:52, 1 June 2008
:because this isnt wikipedia. we are not all on the same server. in fact, each wiki has to pay for its own server. that being said, the creator, {{u|Zhen Lin}} most certainly has the power to name it whatever he feels. furthermore, the wiki stems from the Bulbagarden forum. so, when they decided to make a wiki, it was only right to name it the Bulbapedia. "Bulba" stems from the original site, and "pedia" obviously stems from Encyclopedia. also, as far as im concerned, Pokepedia is a pretty official name, as if to imply its paid for and supported by Nintendo/Game Freak, which it certainly is not. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAG</span>]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|<span style="color:#696969;">NE</span>]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">DETH</span>]]''' 17:02, 1 June 2008 (UTC)


::I '''know''' this is not wikipedia, it is just quite evidently based off it in general setup. Okay I understand why it was carried over, but Poképedia sounds like a more appropriate name for an encyclopedia about Pokémon. Just because it is not payed for or supported by Nintendo/Game Freak does not mean it should not be called "Poképedia". You never know, once Nintendo caught on to the fact that there was a whole encyclopedic wiki dedicated to Pokémon, they might join the band wagon and fund the wiki themselves. [[User:TeePee-20.7|TeePee-20.7]] 17:22, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
Well I'm 90% it's wrong anyway, if it's right it's a MAJOR coincidence and it's makes translating japanese to english very convenient. So, the Japanese call Ash "Satoshi" and Bulbasaur "Fushigidane", I don't have a problem with this in particular. However what I find really weird is articles like [[Ash's Bulbasaur]] claim the Japanese for "Ash's Bulbasaur" is "Satoshi's Fushigidane". When translating things like this you can't take the word for Ash and the word for Bulbasaur and slap a "'s" on to it. I'd be very surprised if the Japanese used the same possessive we do. For example the French for Bulbasaur is "Bulbizarre", but Ash's Bulbasaur in french would not be "Ash's Bulbizarre" it would be "Bulbizarre de Ash". I know the Japanese is romanized, but it would be too much of a coincidence if it was pronounced "Satoshi's Fushigidane". So, coincidence, one of the conventions you follow when romanizing japanese, or am I right and it's incorrect. I hope you understand what I'm getting at here. {{unsigned|Jmvb}}
:::As brilliant as it would be for Nintendo to fund us, I really don't see that happening.  The key factor is what I already mentioned: It's a Bulbagarden project so it has "Bulba" in the name, just like Bulbanews, Bulbacast, etc. This will not change. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|</sup> 17:28, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
:We know that it is not that, but...no one would understand what it said if we put "Satoshi no Fushigidane" so we just put. Satoshi's Fushigidane. It is easier for every to understand, since this is an English, American wiki, we cater to what the English language would have as the possesive. ''[[User:Moldy orange|<sup style="color:#4B5320;">'''Moldy'''</sup>]][[User talk:Moldy orange|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''Orange'''</sub>]]'' 13:42, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
::::Ahh! But you must remain optimistic and assume good faith on Nintendo's behalf. And just because this started from the Bulbagarden community doesn't mean it has to have "Bulba". As I already mentioned Poképedia in itself is more descriptive and an appropriate name for a wiki about Pokémon. [[User:TeePee-20.7|TeePee-20.7]] 17:53, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
::That's silly, what's the point in having the Japanese there if it's not even correct? {{unsigned|Jmvb}}
::::::It didn't just "start from the community". It is a significant section of Bulbagarden itself!  So, yes, it does have to have "Bulba" in the name. Go and pester Archaic or Zhen Lin if you want but they will have the same stance. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|</sup> 18:05, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Becasue we are an ''English'' wiki, not a ''Japanese'' wiki. If you don't like how we put things, leave. And sign your comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. ''[[User:Moldy orange|<sup style="color:#4B5320;">'''Moldy'''</sup>]][[User talk:Moldy orange|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''Orange'''</sub>]]'' 17:14, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
:Based on that logic there should be no Japanese at all, this is of course an english wiki. If you wanna put Japanese in make it correct at least. It's quite insulting to assume everyone who speaks english is a fuckwit who don't know other languages have different possessives. Even if you didn't know that, how many brain cells does it take "Satoshi no Fushigidane" means "Ash's Bulbasaur" in Japanese when it says "Ash's Bulbasaur, japanese: Satoshi no Fushigidane". [[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 17:24, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
::I'm in favor of changing the Japanese titles to proper grammar. Yes, it's an English wiki. Yes, the plural "s" makes it easier to understand... in English. The names are in Japanese however; if you're reading the Japanese title, then chances are you know Japanese, or want to know it. It's an insult to non-Japanese speakers to dumb it down, and it's an insult to Japanese speakers to spell it incorrectly. We're Bulbapedia; we provide some of the most useful Pokémon information on the web. If I want to know a Pokémon's moveset, I check here first. If I want to know what happened in the last episode of the DP saga, I check here. And if I wanted to know the ''correct'' Japanese title for a character or his Pokémon, I'd check here. And I'd automatically assume, like the rest of the site, that the title would be correct.
::And for the non-Japanese speakers, if they want to know what the name means, then they can just read the English title... it's right on the top of the page... --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|<font color="#237d00"> '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>'''</font>]]<small>[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|<font color="#237d00">''.cнаt'''''^'''</font>]]</small> 18:25, 24 August 2008 (UTC)


Look i'm stepping im here. Bulbapedia STAYS Bulbapedia, always has been, always will be. End off. That and Bulbapedia sounds slightly better than Poképedia... [[User:Takoto|<span style="color:#2E0854"><b>Takoto タコト</b></span>]]|<span style="color:#F4C2C2"> サソデイ = 愛</span> 18:17, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
:::So, Jioruji, I take it you're in favor of the correct Japanese terminology?  i.e. Satoshi no Fushigidane as opposed to Satoshi's Fushigidane?  I'd have to say I am too, for the reasons you mentioned. I'd be happy to go around and change those, since the current vote is three to one in favor. --[[User:Politoed666|<span style="color:#30D5C8">ニョロトノ</span>]][[User talk:Politoed666|<span style="color:#FF69B4">''666''</span>]] 18:28, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
:TeePee-20.7, If your reason for joining was explicitly for the purpose of trying to change the name of this encyclopedia, then you'd best reconsider your motivation. The name is not going to change. Your proposal is about as ludicrous as someone telling Wikipedia to change the name to encyclopedia because it "makes more sense." I would recommend exploring and becoming a decent contributer to the community rather than trying to change the entire face of a wiki you just joined and ovbiously haven't explored. [[User:Trainer-c|Trainer-c]] 18:39, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
::::I guess I was only against it becauseof how vast the changes would have to be, all owner's Pokémon, all owner's cards (Which, mind you, is about 8 sets worth) all things owned by someone. A lot edits is never good, do you want the server to crash like it did in May? I didn't want the change because it was changed by other people when I had it on certain cards (check the history on {{TCG ID|Movie VS Pack|Tory's Feelings|17}}). I think it would be a vast amount of edits just to satisfy a group of people who "Don't like it" when we don't have an adequet amount of opinions yet. Maybe bring it up on the forums? ''[[User:Moldy orange|<sup style="color:#4B5320;">'''Moldy'''</sup>]][[User talk:Moldy orange|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''Orange'''</sub>]]'' 19:55, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
::Poképedia is a little too similar to [http://pokemon.wikia.com/wiki/Home Pokémon Encyclopedia] for my liking. Besides, I always liked the fact that it was "Bulbapedia" instead of something less original, and even if it weren't a Bulbagarden project, I think the fact that Bulbasaur heads up the [[National Dex]] is reason enough for him to be in the name. Like Trainer-c says, you're probably better off just finding something else useful to do. --[[User:Martonimos|<font color="#008000">Martonimos</font>]]<sub>[[User talk:Martonimos|((<font color="#00FF00">Talk</font>))]]</sub> 18:52, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
I'm not a member of the forum, so someone else can bring it up.[[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 20:39, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
You're stepping in here? Are you the owner? I'm sorry I didn't think I was causing such a major comotion here that it needed someone to step in and use caps locks. Bulbapedia doesn't sound better, that's just your biased opinion based on your affiliation with bulbagarden. What's all this drama for with people needing to step in, I didn't know this was a soap opera wiki! [[User:TeePee-20.7|TeePee-20.7]] 18:57, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
:If your a member here your a member there.Try loggin in with an identical password and user name[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:##800000;">DCM</span>]]
:Trainer-c, please don't suggest things based on bad faith. My proposal is not ludicrous and makes perfect sense. Your comparison to the changing of the Wikipedia name is ludicrous as Wikipedia is 1000 times the size of this encyclopedia and has no basis for comparison when it comes to the name. The name "Wikipedia" itself really is perfect for what wikipedia is and you get all that in the simple name. Bulbapedia on the other hand is not like this. Don't make bad faith assumptions on my part, I have explored this wiki for a while now and have only now decided to become a member, I suggest you conduct a more civil approach in your dealings with new users such as myself, because if you are like this to all the new comers, then you are most certainly being detrimental to this project and are doing a disservice for the community at large. [[User:TeePee-20.7|TeePee-20.7]] 19:09, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
::Nope, it doesn't work. Someone else can bring it up [[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 20:39, 24 August 2008 (UTC)


I am not the owner, nor do i wish to seem like it. Guess what? I haven't even been on the Bulbagarden website before :\ So i can't say i like it, shove that in your pipe and smoke it! [[User:Takoto|<span style="color:#2E0854"><b>Takoto タコト</b></span>]]|<span style="color:#F4C2C2"> サソデイ = 愛</span> 19:32, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Wiki accounts and forum accounts are not tied in to the universal system. You need a separate account on the forums. This used to be the case for each of the wikis as well prior to the universal system being implemented; however, the universal system covers only the wikis, not the forums.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 20:42, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
:Whoa, stand back. [[User:TeePee-20.7|TeePee-20.7]] 19:44, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
::::And, if this is taken through and all the translations need changed, Bulbabot needs to do it so that we know every one gets changed and the recent changes aren't flooded. ''[[User:Moldy orange|<sup style="color:#4B5320;">'''Moldy'''</sup>]][[User talk:Moldy orange|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''Orange'''</sub>]]'' 20:47, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
::Oh, this is ''so'' a soap opera wiki. I'm not even kidding. Reading one of the talk pages is like watching an episode of the OC, or some horses**t like that. But whatever. Unless I'm mistaken, changing the name would require buying a new domain (as if the server wasn't crap-full enough already), making a new wikimedia project on that domain with the new name, and then manually transferring all of our "OVER 9000!!!" articles over there. I'm not exactly down with that, and apparently, neither are the sysops. And in the end, it's their decision (more specifically, it's Archaic's decision). There's no real reason to do it. Calling this site "Poképedia" is as much your opinion as calling it "Bulbapedia" is ours. --[[User:Martonimos|<font color="#008000">Martonimos</font>]]<sub>[[User talk:Martonimos|((<font color="#00FF00">Talk</font>))]]</sub> 19:55, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
:Oh okay, I wasn't aware it was so difficult. I don't have a good idea on how the technical aspects of wikis work but yeh you have made it sound very difficult to what I thought it would be. But yeh my opinion still stands, Poképedia is more descriptive, more general and more to the point about what this wiki actually is. It is a good name like Wikipedia is for it's purpose. If it wasn't so difficult and all Pokémon fans could take a vote before this wiki was created, I'm sure it would not be me against the world. [[User:TeePee-20.7|TeePee-20.7]] 20:05, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
::Look at it this way: It's Bulbagarden's encyclopediaThat describes it pretty well. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|</sup> 20:09, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
@ TeePee; Hm *smirks* I'll stand back when you realize it's stays as Bulba (: Oh and...sorry if i seem pushy, i'm annoyed right now. Not at anyone, don't take it personally. [[User:Takoto|<span style="color:#2E0854"><b>Takoto タコト</b></span>]]|<span style="color:#F4C2C2"> サソデイ = 愛</span> 19:58, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
:BS, not at any one my ass! You are all annoyed at me and all getting on the defensive. You all see me as "a general nusiance" and are chucking hissy fits just because I think the name should be changed, seriously people. Come on! [[User:TeePee-20.7|TeePee-20.7]] 20:14, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
::Dude, calm down. The more you come after them, the more they come after you. May I suggest logging off for a while, letting all this fade, coming back, and trying again to fit into this community? Make a few contributions to the main space, and stop pushing this name change. We've had people join with rocky starts before, but several of them were able to put that behind them and become regular, effective contributors. --[[User:Martonimos|<font color="#008000">Martonimos</font>]]<sub>[[User talk:Martonimos|((<font color="#00FF00">Talk</font>))]]</sub> 20:33, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Seriously.  Your attitude is the biggest problem here, TeePee. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|</sup> 20:38, 1 June 2008 (UTC)


We might as well get rid of him now--[[User:Kuki|<span style="color:#b00000;">Kuki</span>]][[User talk:Kuki|<span style="color:#2c41a4;">Ta</span><span style="color:#049440;">lk</span>]] 20:46, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::I've gone ahead and made a forum topic for this then, right [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showthread.php?t=30785 here]. Looks good? --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|<font color="#237d00"> '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>'''</font>]]<small>[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|<font color="#237d00">''.cнаt'''''^'''</font>]]</small> 00:31, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
:No, we might as well quit provoking him and give him a chance to cool down. --[[User:Martonimos|<font color="#008000">Martonimos</font>]]<sub>[[User talk:Martonimos|((<font color="#00FF00">Talk</font>))]]</sub> 20:52, 1 June 2008 (UTC)


The idea of it being Bulba as in ''Bulba''saur, kinda implies it as a first source for information.. Since Bulbasaur is the first Pokémon in the Pokédex. I at least like checking things here now. [[User:Gywall|Gywall]] 21:02, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
== No sprites???? ==


idk, i think TeePee is on to something here. being well established is nothing. in fact, i submit Google should change its name to something like "SuperSearch.com" right? it makes more sense doesnt it? -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAG</span>]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|<span style="color:#696969;">NE</span>]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">DETH</span>]]''' 21:05, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
I have an issue. When I load up a page, like a Pokemon page, its sprites dont show. actually, most of the pics dont show either. I dont know if this is because I use Firefox, or something else. Can someone help? <span style="background:black">[[User:Patriotfan09|<font color="#1E90FF">'''Patriot'''</font>]][[User talk:Patriotfan09|<font color="#DC143C">'''fan'''</font>]][[User_talk:Patriotfan09/Phantom_Gym|<font color="#1E90FF">'''09'''</font>]]</span> 03:35, 26 August 2008 (UTC)


:I've skimmed this discussion, and I think there's one ''extremely'' important fact that everyone has missed.  Several, actually. First of all, the server's name is '''[[Bulbasaur's Mysterious Garden]]''', or '''Bulbagarden''' for short.  So, a wiki hosted by Bulbagarden should logically be named '''Bulbawiki''' or '''Bulbapedia'''. Secondly, {{p|Bulbasaur}} is the first Pokémon by National Dex order!  Pokémon #001!  This makes it notable. By the way, the {{wp|Star Wars}} wiki is '''Wookiepedia''', not '''StarWarspedia''' or something along those lines. Lastly, it would simply be a load of work and a pain in the ass to change the name. --[[User:Politoed666|<span style="color:#30D5C8">ニョロトノ</span>]][[User talk:Politoed666|<span style="color:#FF69B4">''666''</span>]] 23:08, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
:It's not a Firefox issue, I use Firefox and sprites load fine. Do you have any extensions/plugins running on Firefox? Maybe one of them is stopping images from loading. Or, if you've got a firewall, or parental controls, perhaps Bulbapedia Archives is being blocked... most of the images are loading from there... --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|<font color="#237d00"> '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>'''</font>]]<small>[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|<font color="#237d00">''.cнаt'''''^'''</font>]]</small> 05:20, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
::Just for the record, we didn't miss any of those points (although nobody brought up Wookiepedia as an example). --[[User:Martonimos|<font color="#008000">Martonimos</font>]]<sub>[[User talk:Martonimos|((<font color="#00FF00">Talk</font>))]]</sub> 01:48, 2 June 2008 (UTC)


== Congrats Bulbapedia ==
::Ok, how do I fix it? This is really confusing me... <span style="background:black">[[User:Patriotfan09|<font color="#1E90FF">'''Patriot'''</font>]][[User talk:Patriotfan09|<font color="#DC143C">'''fan'''</font>]][[User_talk:Patriotfan09/Phantom_Gym|<font color="#1E90FF">'''09'''</font>]]</span> 23:49, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Sometimes it's a problem loading the sprites and all images from the server. It ought to fix itself... '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:59, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 
== Archive ==
 
The main talk is getting prettyu huge.  Could someone archive it? [[User:Theininen|<span style="color:#008000;">The<span style="color:#0000CD;">in</span></span>]][[User talk:Theininen|<span style="color:#B22222;">in<span style="color:#ED9121;">en</span></span>]] 17:01, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
:Why not? [[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 17:59, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, this is getting to pretty big. like really HuGE. but TTEchidna's is still bigger... --[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 01:35, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 
== not sure, dont blame it on me if fake ==


http://www.quantcast.com/bulbapedia.com
so I've seen this video on youtube about the five new Pokémon three of them are, all three look like rotom forms, type the following: "New Pokemon Revealed (rotom new forms)".remember dont blame it on me, I'll be so ****ing  angry if its a fan who's playing a prank on us to amuse himself.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 17:46, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
:Um. Link? Besides, it's very likely fake considering the fact that [http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/New_Pok%C3%A9mon_silhouettes_appear_on_promo_leaflet official information won't be released until September 28.]--[[User:Urutapu|Loveはドコ?]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 18:43, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
have you seen it, looks so identical I mean the leaflet.still did you see the video--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 12:58, 28 August 2008 (UTC)


Congrats on all of the hits.  I'm only confused on the gender demographic.[[User:GJPal|GJ]] 01:35, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
== "Romaji?" ==


:You do realize that's an Advertisement right? --[[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] 01:19, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Shouldn't the spelling technically be "rōmaji?--[[User:Politoed666|<span style="color:#30D5C8">ニョロトノ</span>]][[User talk:Politoed666|<span style="color:#FF69B4">''666''</span>]] 20:50, 27 August 2008 (UTC)


::I don't know whether Quantcast screwed up, or whether they're actually referring to a separate site.  See, http://www.bulbapedia.com isn't affiliated with Bulbagarden or this wiki, to my knowledge.  We're a different web address.  So, either Quantcast's research does reflect our site and they just assumed our suffix was .com, or those stats actually have nothing to do with this wiki. --[[User:Politoed666|<span style="color:#30D5C8">ニョロトノ</span>]][[User talk:Politoed666|<span style="color:#FF69B4">''666''</span>]] 01:40, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
: Yes, but by that token, we should also be writing ''Tōkyō'' and ''Ōsaka'' instead of ''Tokyo'' and ''Osaka''. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]<sub>[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]</sub> 09:34, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

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Congrats Bulbapedia

http://www.quantcast.com/bulbapedia.com

Congrats on all of the hits. I'm only confused on the gender demographic.GJ 01:35, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

You do realize that's an Advertisement right? --Force Fire 01:19, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
I don't know whether Quantcast screwed up, or whether they're actually referring to a separate site. See, http://www.bulbapedia.com isn't affiliated with Bulbagarden or this wiki, to my knowledge. We're a different web address. So, either Quantcast's research does reflect our site and they just assumed our suffix was .com, or those stats actually have nothing to do with this wiki. --ニョロトノ666 01:40, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Actually, bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net is listed in the "similar audience" column to the right. I guess people go to bulbapedia.com when they hear about the site but not the URL. Anyway, we're doing even better than bulbapedia.com. --Martonimos((Talk)) 01:54, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
wow, i didnt know that many of you guys were asain... -- MAGNEDETH 03:09, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
I wonder, can Quantcast tell the difference between Asians and wannabe-Asians? A good number of users here use Japanese or Japanese-inspired names... my name's Japanese-inspired, and I'm born in NYC. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 03:16, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
I'm vietnamese, that's asian, but I was born in LA, the state~Pokemaniac102 03:20, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the correct info. There is still more girls though. I thought girls didn't exist on the Internet. - unsigned comment from GJPal (talkcontribs)
they dont. its just lots of boys using their mothers computer. -- MAGNEDETH 04:40, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Or as World of Warcraft has shown us, its just guys pretending they are girls....[[User:Oak-leaf Knight]] 04:42, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Does that mean Tina? PachirisuLover12? Pie? Zhen Lin? no, he is a boy~Pokemaniac102 04:43, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
they could be. we dont know. thats the magic of the internet. -- MAGNEDETH 04:46, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

You said it, not me...[[User:Oak-leaf Knight]] 04:45, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Begs the question on why guys would want to act as girls.
...On second thougts, don't answer that. Glinn Mgraw 05:27, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Errrr, I don't know. They want to be gay? It's the Θρtιmαtum♏Talk|Links09:30 4 Jun 2008
I'm a G.i.r.l. too! (Guy In Real Life) -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 10:21, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

You idiots girls do exist on the internet i am a real girl but that does not mean that all girls do not like to get on the internet or like pokémon or stuff like that but i do you idiots. but i still love getting on bulbapedia and next time don't assume that girls do not exist on the internet next time or i will punch you people(and possibly the server) in the stupid face!UkiraGrace611 21:51, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Whoa, chill out + old discussion much. I'm a girl too, and everyone knows that there are some girls on this website, nevermind just the internet in general. You've never heard the joke about there being no girls on the internet? They're not trying to be mean, it's just something everyone says. In fact, I'm just a figment of your imagination. :) --gabbie | talk 22:01, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Well done, Bulbapedia. You have crawled your way up into the ranks where when people search for Pikachu, they get our page on Pikachu. Well done indeed...It's the Θρtιmαtum♏Talk|Links11:24 17 Jun 2008

Right behind Wikipedia's article on Pikachu, of course. :D -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 11:35, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
We're ahead for every other Pokaman. Proves how hard our contributors have been working. It's the Θρtιmαtum♏Talk|Links12:54 17 Jun 2008

Who Misspelled Categorized and Categorizing?

Fix the spelling. - unsigned comment from AaronV28 (talkcontribs)

Typical human response. It's American English, not British. It's the Θρtιmαtum♏Talk|Links07:24 2 Jun 2008
American English would have the "z" in catergorizing. Since we use American English, it should be changed. MoldyOrange 12:13, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
It has been stated not to change from one to the other for the sheer sake of it. Either can be used, but American English is preferred. Glinn Mgraw 12:33, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Wait, where is it misspelled anyway? TTEchidna 22:53, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
I changed it. It should be the last one in the history. That's why Glinn yelled abut changing it. MoldyOrange 22:59, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
Yelling GENERALLY USES CAPS LOCK LIKE THIS to emphasise its point. Glinn Mgraw 08:02, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
I used yelled as a generic term. Would you rather I have said talked matter-of-factly? MoldyOrange 14:51, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Collapsible Navboxes

can bulbapedia do collapsible boxes, and if so, how? OrigamiGuy-Talk-Contribs-Mudkipz 21:14, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

We can, yes, we just haven't yet because we're against pretty much just jacking everyone's code. We likely will soon enough. TTEchidna 22:51, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
But wikipedia and bulbapedia both run on mediawiki, so everything that works on one will work on the other, so why the big 'stealing other wikis code is not nice' thing? OrigamiGuy-Talk-Contribs-Mudkipz 23:02, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
Depending on the .js or .css coding we use, there's a few that are out there specifically to be used by anyone, so they're safe to take. I know of two types of collapsible boxes, I think... if I can just find the right one, I can check the source on it, it's easy enough to get up and running. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 09:32, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
is it done yet? Lord of Origami 11:37, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
I don't think I like them... They make things inconvienent and they subtract from the pages overall view. They make articles look lesss...complete. MoldyOrange 11:39, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
They've been added now. Inconvenient is only a matter of perspective; yes, you need to click to read everything, but at the same time, on pages that need collapsible boxes, it's easier to find what you're looking for when the big stuff's hidden initially. Anyway, see User talk:Poke/CollapsibleTables.js for the coding and instructions. You can format and color the tables just like any other table, so no worries about messing up themes or a page's "overall view". -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 00:15, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Anime pics

How do you get pictures of the anime episodes? If I try to play one on my computer and press "Print Scrn", the window where the video was is black. Is there any way around this? --Shiny Noctowl 23:04, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

We just get them fro Filb.de. But if you have Windows Movie Maker or some other type of movie maker, you can take screenshots from there. I'm sure websites like Filb.de use some special kind of program to get screenshots. --ケンジガール 23:07, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
DVD Shrink saved the DVD as a .ifo file, and Windows Movie Maker won't let me open it. What file type do I need to convert it to and how do I convert it to the correct type? --Shiny Noctowl 23:11, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
[1] Zurqoxn 03:44, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I have the "download codecs automatically" box checked, and I'm on an administrator account, but I get the error message:

The file F:\My Documents\My Videos\Pokémon The Rise of Darkrai.avi cannot be imported because the codec required to play the file is not installed on your computer. If you have already tried to download and install the codec, close and restart Windows Movie Maker, and then try to import the file again.

I've tried closing and restarting Windows Movie Maker several times but it still gives me the error. --Shiny Noctowl 20:47, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

If you could pause it without messing up the image, maybe you could just photo it. Theininen 20:00, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
A lot of video players have a feature that allows you to take screenshots. Media Player Classic is a good one. --FabuVinny |Talk Page| 20:05, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

James' not James's!!!!!!

EVERY SINGLE POSSESIVE FORM FOR JAMES ON THIS SITE IS WRONG! The possesive form of James is James', NOT James'sEmperor's Cookies 13:09, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Then fix it when you see it's wrong. -Sketchies 13:51, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
Actually, both James's and James' are accepted possessive forms. (Note that that the 's is insisted upon in the The MLA Style Manual, as well as the Elements of Style which I believe is the writing standard we follow at Bulbapedia) The key is uniformity in the writing, thus, why James's is used on the Bulbapedia. Trainer-c 13:55, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
Now that they are moved, doesn't that mean we have double redirects everywhere?!? MoldyOrange
But proper english has s not s's. See here http://owl.english.purdue.edu/handouts/grammar/g_apost.html Emperor's Cookies 14:01, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
Okay, I'll get right on that. MoldyOrange 14:04, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
The links I provided clearly state that both are in fact "proper English" and anyone that has written professionally adheres to the Elements of Style, and The MLA Style Manual. I would ask about this on the forums before going wild with editing and redirecting everything.
I really don't think that this will work because both the OP and the TP Templates/shortlinks only work and will result in James's Pokémon. MoldyOrange 14:15, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
The very page you cite does not support your claim. I quote, "add 's to the singular form of the word (even if it ends in -s)". James is, of course, singular. - 振霖T 15:18, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
I asked my English teacher today, and it confirmed my thoughts that it's always just an apostrophe at the end of a name if the name ends with s. Porygon-Z 17:01, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
Let's not forget it's the same English teachers who tell us that prepositions are not appropriate words to end sentences with. They are not always correct. James's is correct and the standard on Bulbapedia, end of discussion. - 振霖T 02:05, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

And apparently there are people who will never learn. Due to actions by a user called, fittingly enough, Arbok and Weezing, every article starting with "James's" can no longer be moved by someone who doesn't have sysop powers. This blatant disregard for style left me with no choice. This whole issue has been discussed over and over again, and still people insist that the "James's" way is 100% incorrect. Please contact a sysop if a legitimate title change is necessary (such as James's Mime Jr. evolving, NOT changing James's Chimecho to "James' Chimecho"). --Shiningpikablu252 06:05, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Isn't it funny that people are fighting over whether an "s" goes on the end of James or not? People should learn that it's a certain way on Bulbapedia and that they should abide by it.--ケンジガール 06:16, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

It's not so much that they argue...it's just...are tantrums necessary? And English is probably the worst of them all in terms of consistency. There's ten million ways to do everything. (So yeah...no screaming about it please.)--Loveはドコ? (talk contribs) 08:00, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
This is probably where it is confusing people. There is a rule for names ending in "s" "vowel" "s". They probably think James falls under it when it doesn't. The only two names that do are Jesus and Moses. So those are the only two names and they actually should be Jesus' and Moses'. Those are the only two! MoldyOrange 13:20, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Correction, I asked the Advanced Placement English teacher from my school which it should be (who has a doctorate in english!) and she said that it should always be James's and the only ones that do apply (Jesus and Moses) can actually go either way. So from now on, it should be James's, the correct way! MoldyOrange 13:36, 11 July 2008 (UTC)


By the way, the only reason "s'" (apart from with Jesus and Moses) are used is because the "s" they replace were added to make a plural. Example: ("Banks" = plural of "Bank" and a last name.) "Don't take that! That's the Banks' money!" and "Don't take that! That's Tyra Banks's money!" See? Kanjo 01:24, 22 August 2008 (JST)

Wait a sec......

How does this user User:SharkJamez have stuff on the user account if he joined after the 24th of march.

  • 20:08, June 6, 2008 SharkJamez (Talk | contribs) New user ‎

(When he joined) Emperor's Cookies 13:59, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

That's due to the content having originally been posted on the talk page. Even prior to the userspace ban, there were instances where people had posted content more appropriate for the User namespace in the User talk namespace, and since this content didn't appear to be a blatant attempt to get around the userspace ban, the content was moved. --Shiningpikablu252 14:14, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Look what I found

Look at this video I found on Youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsopjAc2xok

--Posted by Deadlymethane at 20:16, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Interesting. Too bad it doesn't really have a use yet. -- Unown Q 03:40, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
It worked for me. I'm pressed for time, though, and not keen to experiment a lot. TTEchidna 05:43, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
What do you mean it has no use? If no AR was used used in that video, then you could get the events with tweaking. --Posted by Deadlymethane at 23:08, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
I still cant figure out how to tweak.Emperor's Cookies 00:44, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
Go crazy on the D-pad. TTEchidna 06:05, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

My Talk Page I

Is gone. Completely gone. As In I can not find any history, or anything...Emperor's Cookies 18:32, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Boo-hoo. Don't use it for useless blog crap this time. That's not what it's for. Ketsuban 18:36, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
I did not use it for useless Blog $%^#. And even if the admins think I did, a warning would have been nice.Emperor's Cookies 18:38, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
Your talk page had nonsense on it. We have been told to delete anything not having to do with Bulbapedia. Don't use your talk page for nonsense next time. You're not the only one this is going to happen to. -Sketchies 18:39, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
If I had been told that it would be wiped, I would have taken the axe to all the junk..... once again, would have been nice to have been forewarnedEmperor's Cookies 18:41, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
You had fanfiction on it. What exactly do you think the forums are for if you're cluttering the wiki up with tripe like that? Ketsuban 20:40, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
This has gone way beyond the point of "warning" people. Honestly though, you have been warned. The discussion on the Bulbapedia forum has been going on for long enough that everyone should have seen what was going to happen, and what kinds of things are unacceptable. This junk in the user space that has nothing to do with Bulbapedia has been killing the server, and we've put up with it long enough. If you want to store fanfiction on Bulbagarden, that's what library.bulbagarden.net is for. If you want to have long discussions about any topic, that's what BMGf is for. --Archaic 00:32, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
Or get an account on Fanfiction.net, I have. By the way does that mean that having a userpage dedicate to fanfiction is not allowed? User:Agent008

My Talk Page II

Users with talk-page content that isn't about Bulbapedia should be warned ahead of time to give them time to back up the pages (this obviously applies only to things like fanfiction that the user might actually want to keep). --Shiny Noctowl 01:03, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

They can retrieve the information from the history, so it really makes no difference if they're warned or not. --Archaic 01:32, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
Actually, when it is delted, you cant pull back from the history. And I already kiled the fan fic.Emperor's Cookies 01:49, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
When removing stuff from talk pages, it's a much better idea to blank the page, not delete it. Deletion does absolutely nothing that blanking wouldn't do in this situation; the pages are still retained in the server database. At the very least, give users the ability to see what got deleted. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 01:53, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Bots

How do you create bots? I want to make one myself rather than having someone else make one for me. --Shiny Noctowl 16:12, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

If it isn't something that would be possible for me to do, I'd like a "shortcut" bot, named ShinyBot, that would change the following shortcuts into the correct code (to make editing easier by causing users to have to type less):

/d\→δ

/e\→é

/m\→♂

/f\→♀

//Pokédex number\\→[[Image:Pokédex number.png]]

/>page name<\→#redirect[[page name]]

/[image name][image height][image width][title][page name]\→{{Imagelink|image name|image height|image width|title|page name}}

More shortcuts possibly coming...


--Shiny Noctowl 16:32, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Why not simply use the character palette? --ニョロトノ666 19:21, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
As opposed to creating a bot who's job would be to make every edit into two edits. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 19:24, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Images

The images Image:Escape Formula Example 2.png and Image:Escape Formula Example 3.png don't show up, despite the fact that I've uploaded them (a:Image:Escape Formula Example 2.png and a:Image:Escape Formula Example 3.png). --Shiny Noctowl 21:22, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

It's a bug. Images uploaded on the Archives may not show up on the Bulbapedia side at first. The situation usually sorts itself out over time, so I'd recommend leaving them as is--it'll probably fix itself eventually. --Shiningpikablu252 21:25, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Userspace

No, this isn't another whine or complaint, it's an idea. Instead of having the admins try to find some complex programming to make a edit limit, why not try to ask Bulbagarden to make a new area to put the userspace in? Have the userspace from the forums, the archives, the wiki, everything, on a new server? Just thought I'd throw the idea out there and have someone at least tell me why it won't work. Theininen 17:42, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Servers aren't free. -Sketchies 17:43, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, but put some of the donations from all the divisions toward it, and tell people that it would bring back the userspace... Theininen 17:45, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

There's honestly no reason to actually have a userspace, i liked it better when i couldn't see mine. It's pointless unless you really want people to know every detail about you, IMO.Boywonder01 17:52, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Why not just redirect all userspace pages to talk pages and be done with it? -- Unown Q 22:32, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

at this point, it looks like the userspace will be dissallowed and user pages will have little information on them. seriously, you join to edit and contribute, not to show off your ideas. -- MAGNEDETH 22:44, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Something to think about: Over on MarioWiki, one of our admins started a separate wiki (through wikia) called Userpedia, which is for all the community and fan crap. That might be a good solution to Bulbapedia's problems. -- Unown Q 22:51, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

I had heard about that, that's sort of what gave me the idea. Theininen 00:43, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
It works out rather well, with the occasional overlap. I recently proposed to my fellow admins about doing what Bulbapedia did and just block all userspace edits. -- Unown Q 01:00, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
I kinda like this ban, it weeds out the trolls and Bulbapedia moves forward.Of course, if it's permanent, you know the trolls will call shenanigans on the admins and the entire wiki.Boywonder01 01:12, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
the idea may be an easy way out, but Zhen doesnt have the money to support another server. especially one for users to play around on. especially considering he already has something like that. -- MAGNEDETH 01:31, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
Free solutions do exist. -- Unown Q 03:30, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
Wikia's only free money-wise. You pay for it in plenty of other ways. Trust me. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 04:10, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
Can someone tell me what servers are? I know thats what host the site, but what are they? Patriotfan09 04:23, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
A Server is just a computer that has the entire website saved on it, basically. A much bigger computer then normal, of course... -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 06:28, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
Why not delete the user pages and user talk pages of users who dont use bulba anymore?Emperor's Cookies 18:13, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
But then you have the problem of, what designates a user who doesn't use bulbapedia anymore? You can't ask them if they still use it, you can't be sure they'll give you an answer. Lots of users "lurk" (use the site, but don't necessarily edit all the time). Maybe a year's worth of inactivity, but that's not exactly easy to enforce.
I think userspace is still an important thing to have; it's always good to know who's who. A name only tells you so much. But there's a lot of stuff that doesn't need to be on a userpage. I want to know the editor, not know every little detail about the person and their family. K.I.S.S. (Keep It Simple, Stupid) is a good rule for userspace.
Re-enabling userspace with restrictions, either on size, or scope, or number of edits, or all of the above... seems like a good idea. The problem is, how to do this simply. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 18:28, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. Patriotfan09 22:56, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Wouldnt this be cool?

wouldnt it be cool that the day we get our 10,000th article we could have like an online party or something. or just like a celebration if we could find a website that could do that or something. but it would be fun wouldnt it!

its just an idea...

--Hey1031 22:10, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Contents

Hey, what happened to the contents column on the pages???????? --CoolPikachu! 03:33, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Which pages are you talking about in particular? Any examples?
I believe if they're not showing up at all, there's an option in your preferences to turn them off, so check that you didn't turn that on by mistake... -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 13:06, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
Ok And I mean on every page i go on --CoolPikachu!
Still works for me, on all the pages that should have Contents (ToC is, by default, only visible if there's about three or more sections on the page). Check your preferences, is my bet. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 16:20, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

My Pokémon Ranch

This is a new game avaliable for download on Wii (and since it is WiiWare, you have to have WiFi). As I was playing earlier, I realized that when Haley brings in Pokémon to the ranch, a description of the species appears. I'm not sure if it's identical to any descriptions so far, but I think it might be useful if it's put under "Pokédex Description" on the appropriate pages, though it's not really a Pokédex. Crüsäder 14:50, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Could be worth a shot since Gen I & II Pokémon have their "Stadium" descriptions. ~$aturn¥oshi THE VOICES 15:19, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
The only problem is, it doesn't show descriptions for all Pokémon, only the ones she brings in (as far as I've found, anyway). Crüsäder 18:24, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Oh... Then maybe it's not that notable. ~$aturn¥oshi THE VOICES 18:37, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
If we can get a full set, it will probably be worth adding. How many Pokémon species can she bring in? --FabuVinny |Talk Page| 18:50, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
She usually brings in one a day. Crüsäder 16:09, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Is there potential for her to bring in one of every kind of Pokémon? ~$aturn¥oshi THE VOICES 16:42, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

You can have 1000 Pokémon in there so if anyone is willing to wait 1000 days to find out, then maybe it is. I doubt she will bring in the event pokémon though... Rabla (i don't have a sig yet)

Hayley brought in a Hariyama to my ranch yesterday and its description was the same as its Pokédex entry on Diamond and Pearl (both are the same). So I'm guessing this is the same for all Pokémon. As for Pokémon with two different Pokédex entries, I'm not sure which she'll use. ~$aturn¥oshi THE VOICES 15:13, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

ads

what is with the much-hated ads on the wiki?!?!?! i hate them, and what was wrong with the google adbar at the top?? Lord of Origami 11:17, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

I was seeing them earlier, but now I don't anymore. ~$aturn¥oshi THE VOICES 13:20, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
It depends on the skin u use.I have always used cologne blue, and as long as I am logged in, I see no ads.Emperor's Cookies 16:09, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
I always use monobook, because I've used it for so long, i know where everything is, and I like it. Lord of Origami 16:20, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

I use cologne blue too, but I don't see the ads anymore when I'm logged out. ~$aturn¥oshi THE VOICES 16:25, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Some of the ads I've seen are a little racy. I'm an adult, so it doesn't really bother me, but I'd hate to hear of a kid whose mom flipped out because of some half-naked chicks on an otherwise kid-friendly Pokémon site. Amp 02:57, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Forums to report. TTEchidna 04:42, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

I dont know if this is the right place, but im complaining about the ads. cant you do something? my computer keeps slowwing down to try and handle the pop ups. i want to look at Entei's move list, not see 'Mileys new video' or buy 'Phisiology'. please do something. - unsigned comment from Chrishaylor (talkcontribs)

If you sign in, you shouldn't see any ads at all, it was made that way. MoldyOrange 23:12, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
that just forces people to join if they dont want to see the ads. Lord of Origami 11:43, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Season 11?

Is it true that the 11th season will be Pokémon Diamond and Pearl:Battle Dimension ? I have heard a lot about this and i was wondering if anyone could confirm it... - Rabla


Pokémon Battle Dimension. Need more Proof? --Force Fire 08:54, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I've been watching battle dimension for over 2 months now so I dont get what your talking about. --Hey1031 13:00, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Maybe this person is from a different country that hasn't aired any yet, did you think of that??!! MoldyOrange 14:22, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Where i am they haven't even finished Diamond and Pearl yet -Rabla

Yes some countries don't stay with the US or Japan dub some may be more behind on the series--CoolPikachu! 06:26, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

12 articles left

Number 10.000 is coming. MathijsP 08:10, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

YAY! 10,000 ARTICLES

wow congrats guys on getting 10000 articles!

I remember when there was only 6,000!

--Hey1031 20:01, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

I also say, congrats Bulbapedia! 10,000... wow. Theininen 21:47, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
Wow. If I may ask, which was the 10,000th page? I'm Missingno. Master, and I approve this message. 10:53, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
Koffing (EX Ruby & Sapphire 54) MathijsP 10:56, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

And only 14 pages until it's 11,000! Lord of Origami 09:46, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Bulbapedia Pokémon League

Ok here’s the thing, I was wondering if anyone would be interested in making a Pokémon League with other Uses here on Bulba, after all most of us like making strong Pokémon teams – why not test them out. It would work over the WiFi using the D/P and PBR friend codes.

If you’re interested put your Sig below the Possible Rules on my talk page & I'll see how many are interested and we can go from there, I was thinking of starting it in about two weeks to give people time to get the Pokémon ready.

PhantomCX

Check the forums, maybe. TTEchidna 14:02, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Yeah I found it - never thought to look there PhantomCX

the league you found is from the forums. Porygon-Z created a league with Bulba members. you can check it out here. -- MAGNEDETH 22:16, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
No I just use Safari browser--CoolPikachu! 09:33, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Ads

I've noticed that Bulbapedia now has ads on it, and some of the words are green, and when you scroll over them, this little popup box comes up. I'm wondering, why are they there some ads now? Lack of funding? TheStick

Bulbapedia has sold out to the man. Plain and simple.Emperor's Cookies 14:08, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
From what I've read on the forums, it's part of a new server. ~$aturn¥oshi THE VOICES 15:00, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
I noticed that it only happens when I tried to view the site when I wasn't logged in. TheStick
I believe that is the intention. Maybe it's a sneaky way to get people to join... ~$aturn¥oshi THE VOICES 00:28, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
Ho hum. The sidebar advertisement is actually well-placed, it's not in the way of anything. And it's banner ads for stuff like Nintendo (and Zwinky), so that's not awful either. I'm not liking the fat advertisement at the bottoms of pages (it should really be a horizontal banner ad, and not within the page content box). But all in all, it's a pretty sweet deal; site seems fast enough already, no ads when logged in, and all that. I'm jealous; GuildWiki is actually losing members over it's advertising system. (Wikia bought GuildWiki out, and they have really crappy ad locations, such as right in the middle of the page.)
I'm looking forward to seeing this server in action. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 10:38, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
What ads? When I'm on here I never see any ads?--CoolPikachu! 03:20, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
Maybe you missed the fourth comment in this section... - spontaneousCombusken 03:22, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
I'll check....--CoolPikachu! 03:31, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
I signed out but there was no ads only some words were highlighted green--CoolPikachu!03:34, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
-*de-indent* I logged out and turned off my Adblock Plus, and there are definitely advertisements, along with pop-ups (!!). - spontaneousCombusken 03:40, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
....................................all these popups...........I hate this website.....~Pokemaniac102 03:44, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm just lucky then --CoolPikachu! 04:57, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
Firefox 3
AdBlock Plus
...and you're golden. I had to jump through all sorts of hoops, disabling features, just so I could see what the ads looked like. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 09:25, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
No I just use mostly Safari and a little FireFox browser--CoolPikachu! 09:33, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
YOU USE A MAC!!!!!Emperor's Cookies 02:46, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Fourms

Are the fourms currently down? I can't get on at all. Every time i go on, it has this wierd error message. ~09MurphyM

Location Data

Where's a complete list of all location data in DP? I'm wondering because I saw a hacked Ho-Oh that I thought said it was from "Space World" but I didn't think PokéSav could create new location data. --Shiny Noctowl 19:11, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

As yet unused promotional place. TTEchidna 23:28, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
As for that list, we only have one for Gen II and Gen III GBA. TTEchidna 23:30, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

whats wrong with pokemon.com?

everytime you try to go to pokemon.com, it says error, but when you type in www.pokemon.com it comes up with this weird page with news from may and june and something about a tournament.

I dont know if that happens a lot or what it means so does anyone else know if a server is just down or what? Thanks --Hey1031 13:09, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

The ads

Just a question.Do the ads pertain to wat you searchDCM 13:48, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

What are you talking about? I haven't seen ads on this site in ages. I'm Missingno. Master, and I approve this message. 13:52, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Log out.It seem swat ever you have searched most will apear in the advertisementsDCM 13:54, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
The ads are only visible to those not logged in. ~$aturn¥oshi THE VOICES 13:56, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Roselia!

What does the scouter say about the amount of articles!? --Posted by Deadlymethane at 20:15, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

IT'S OVER 9000!?!?!?!?!? Takoto タコト| サソデイ = 愛 02:19, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
actually its now over 11,000. Lord of Origami 11:42, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

New Template

Can I make a new template thing about editing the user space?DCM

Sure, just do it in one edit! MoldyOrange 02:21, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
How bout this:

=Please= Slow down on editing the User Space.Editing the User Space too much will lead to it being locked again.Instead of doing 10 Small edits, why not use preview to check your edits before you preview.

Thank you
Made it quickly.Gonna make it under User:Darth Cookie Monster/Warning
DCM 02:26, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
Put two equal signs on each side instead of one and make it so it automatically signs and it should be cool. MoldyOrange 02:31, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
Cant figure that out.Can you add that and it should be good.DCM 02:33, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the help.DCM 02:40, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

requests

can we get a suggestion box that comes out of the search menu like wikipedia that way we get rid of the disambugation pages? and can we upload to the site the Pokémon movies and be downloadable for members only? so if we do it do not spread the news. Please reply back, an admin please!!!!!!!!!!--Nobody777 14:37, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Well, I'm not an admin, but I seriously doubt that the movies will ever be available like that on this site. That is called piracy, after all. As far as the suggestion box thing, that'll probably happen when the wiki media deal gets an upgrade. Wikipedia is used as a testing ground for that stuff before other wikis get it. ~$aturn¥oshi THE VOICES 15:06, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
NO!! Disambiguation pages are nice and convienent. MoldyOrange 16:36, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
One, we had a vote on the Pokémon disambigs before. We're not gonna get rid of them. However, there is that sort of "suggestions" thing for the searchbar that I have in Firefox.
Also, downloadable movies? Dude, we're lucky that Nintendo isn't as sue-happy as Scientology for us just using official TCG cards. TTEchidna 19:00, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Besides, Wikipedia still has its disambiguation pages even though it uses the suggestion table as you're typing into the search window. ~$aturn¥oshi THE VOICES 19:24, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

so lets say you type Pikachu, but you want Ash's Pikachu so the suggestion box will appear: Pikachu (species) Pikachu (Ash) redirects to Ash's Pikachu Pikachu (Ritchie) redirects to Ritchies Pikachu so this how it works, sorry about the movie thing I forgot about piracy. Also when you login and go to the main page, at the bottom can we also show how many active memebers in bulbapedia are present? --Nobody777 05:56, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

If you wanna see how many people are on, then go to the forum. This isn't one, it's a wiki. Porygon-Z 06:00, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Pokémon with unique names will have their pages titled as such, so Sparky's page is located there. ~$aturn¥oshi THE VOICES 13:38, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

we can also get a prenounciation info box at the bottom of the Pokémon information box just like pokencyclopedia.--Nobody777 14:51, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Er, what? If you mean a name pronunciation, we've been meaning to implement one and will attempt to do so soon... TTEchidna 19:33, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Evobox?

Sorry if it is a stupid question, but where are Template:Evobox/1 and Template:Evobox/2 gone? --Pokeresp 11:16, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Something is wrong with the database. MathijsP 12:04, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Something's not right here....

The page for Scuz seems to be not working. What's going on here? I'm Missingno. Master, and I approve this message. 12:31, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

See above. Glinn Mgraw 15:38, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Categories for players of all game versions

Why do we have categories for OSes (like "Windows Users" or "Linux users"), browsers (like "Firefox users"), even for types (like "Water users"), but no special categories for different game versions? IMHO, we should create them and add to {{User Diamond}}, {{User Pearl}}, {{User Emerald}} and other game tags. At least everyone would know, who might want to trade some version-exclusives. --Pokeresp 11:38, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, a good question. My guess is that nobody thought to categorize the templates... I think it shouldn't be tough to add them in. Games aren't region-exclusive, correct? Meaning some with a Japanese Blue can trade with someone with an English Blue... so in the case of the (JP) game templates, I say we categorize those just as Blue and Red versions. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 13:35, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
I think, it would be better to add each template to both categories, e.g. "Players of Diamond" and "Players of Diamond (Japanese version)", since Pokémon from other regions get an experience bonus. But such categorising would not help only trading, but would also be good for statistical purposes :-) etc. --Pokeresp 17:54, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
For things like Japanese Diamond, there'd be no point, since they're the same game. Besides, you're forgetting, Pokémon that have been traded always gain an EXP boost, not just from other regions. I was merely meaning Japanese Blue, but I might need to look at that one in particular again; I think there was something about the Japanese Blue only being in Japanese, and the English Blue being a different game entirely. Otherwise, for trading purposes, both categories could be put in a single box, so people looking for players with Blue don't need to check multiple categories. I'll check it now, and probably start adding tags while I'm at it. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 23:36, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
All done. I just need to give the categories their own pages. Blue and Blue (JP) are different games, so no need for multiple tags there. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 00:10, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Question

How do you make a thing like some of the templates on Wikipedia where you click the word "hide"/"show" and it toggles the links in the template? --Shiny Noctowl 04:21, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

class="expandable" or class="collapsible" on the table. See...
TTEchidna 06:07, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
I always loved how enthusiastic you are about coding, TTE.--Loveはドコ? (talk contribs) 07:30, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
Is it possible to do it without the label moving when the text appears? Or with the label disappearing, so that the text could be shown and not hidden again? --Pokeresp 11:33, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
If you set the box width in the code (put <width="350px"> in the table), then it should lock it in at the same size, open or closed.
There's no way to lock a table open though, not unless you simply take the expandable class out. :P -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 13:55, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
But it's impossible to take "expandable" class out, because embedding html code is disabled on Bulbapedia. However, I at least succeeded in making the table caption "stand still".
UPDATE. I've noticed an interesting effect in Opera 9.51. Before the whole page is loaded, all expandable tables are not collapsed. This means, if a spoiler will be hidden in such table, someone using Opera will have to avoid looking at the screen while the page is loading...
--Pokeresp 16:29, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
That's normal for all browsers; it loads the page content first, then loads the show/hide script. People will just have to make due as normal, back when we didn't have the show/hide script; don't scroll down when you see a spoiler alert.
And as for the table you just made, if you give it a set width, it'll lock the little show/hide button in one spot. No need to add the border like I did, I only did that to make it easier to see what the table was doing.
What I meant about taking the expandable class out:
This table is locked in the open position.
Because this table has had the expandable class removed, it can't be closed. Ta-da.
-- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 17:29, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


07:12

19:24

Why are the minutes different on the two templates? --Shiny Noctowl 01:29, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Good question. I suppose it depends on how the CURRENTTIME tool works, or something. Maybe one of them gets the time from one place, while the other gets it from somewhere else? They're exactly five minutes apart, that sounds almost like a refresh rate on something perhaps. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 02:04, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Because {{#time: m}} is the month number with a leading zero. It's December, so it's 12. The correct minutes would be {{#time: i}}, as you can see...
{{#time: H}}:{{#time: i}} makes 19:24
{{CURRENTTIME}} makes 19:24
It's the same. Now watch this random calculated number change like nobody's business! 3 (hint: it's (1735241079%39) + (360%19)). TTEchidna 02:48, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Aha! So that's how Arceus is set to randomly switch modes whenever you visit the page. I like that. I'll have to find some use for that now... -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 13:00, 7 August 2008 (UTC)


07:24
19:24
What are {{#time: U}}, {{#time: z}}, and {{#time: G}} and how do you round a decimal to an integer? --Shiny Noctowl 22:40, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
{{#time: U}} is seconds since January 1, 1970 at 12:00 AM. {{#time: z}} is how many days have passed since January 1 of this year. {{#time: G}} is the hour in 24-hour format without a padding 0 ({{#time: H}} has the padding zero, while the lowercase of each is the 12-hour version). See this page for all of them... TTEchidna 06:05, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
By the way. 20.666666666667

Idea

Okay, seeing as I'm not a part of any other part of bulbapedia, I can't post it anywhere else. The idea is a Pokémon fan wiki. Basically, it's a wiki for fanfic, ideas, interactive games, text adventures and anything else. I'ma guess you'd be able to make pages on your own fake pokémon. If you juys already have this, I apologize because I would not know. I got the idea from http://fanstuff.hrwiki.org/index.php/Main_Page . Strong Intelligent

It sounds like a fun idea. I don't think it's a realistic option for Bulbapedia, or our servers; there's already a lot on the wiki, and we've already got limits on userspace stuff, because fanfics and games have clogged the servers before.
But a wiki dedicated to the topic might be fun. It's actually not all that hard to start your own wiki, if you can find a webhost... I've got one of my own running on a mildly reliable free webhost. So don't forget that starting one yourself is a fine option. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 19:19, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm all for it. I don't have the money, time, know-how or "care" factor to do it myself, but a fan wiki would attract all the fancrufters away from here to a place where they can post their stuff without fear of reprimand or deletion. Transformers and Super Mario do it, I know, so I think it's a good idea. --Martonimos((Argh|Blargh)) 02:46, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
"Welcome to Pokémon Fancruft Wiki! Have fun editing here!"
...while I doubt that name would go over well, the basic idea would be popular. The question would be, is a Wiki really the best place for such things, or perhaps a simpler, "normal" submission-type website? Lots of people like fanfics, but how many like posting fanfics in a wiki?
Not counting the people here who do just that; most of them post fanfics here because they're already members, and at least a little familiar with wiki-code. Your average Pokémon fanboy/fangirl might not be so wiki-literate. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 05:02, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Everyone at the HRFWiki, WIki user Wiki and Kirby fanstuff wiki. BTW: it's fanSTUFF not fancruft. Strong Intelligent
I was quoting Martonimos on the "Fancruft", and he was quoting Zhen Lin on it. Sort of an inside joke I suppose, we both know what it's supposed to be called. :P -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 13:21, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Actually, I've only ever heard the term "fancruft." I've never heard it referred to as "fanstuff," so I guess I hang around some really bitter people.
I think a wiki would work really well. It's not just fanfics that people write; they make pages for their characters, essays, teams, predictions, all sorts of stuff that are in article format but not notable (or, more often, canonical) enough to be articles. If, for example, I had been forced to put my GSDS predictions page on another site, one that didn't use wiki-coding, it would have required an extensive rewrite, not just for the code, but the format of the article as a whole. And when you look at the amount of time people spend editing their userpages, even now after the ban, I'd think that a wiki of this sort would be extremely popular. We'd just have to be sure to deflect a few people from Bulbapedia to the Fancruftpedia at first; it'd catch on after a while. --Martonimos((Argh|Blargh)) 08:17, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

{Kills colons} Presicley my Martini! Anyway, I'd probably be more active at the Bulbafan(?) Strong Intelligent

Japanese

All of the Japanese characters on all of the pages just show up as question marks. How can I fix this? --Shiny Noctowl 15:14, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

I don't see them as question marks. ~$aturn¥oshi THE VOICES 15:17, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
I know that it's just a problem with my computer, but how do I fix it? --Shiny Noctowl 16:41, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Download Japanese onto your computer or GET A NEW ONE! LugiaRules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" 16:43, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Where's a page to download Japanese? --Shiny Noctowl 19:07, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
For instructions, see this page.
You know, this is the second or third time I've directed a user to that page, not counting the time I used it myself to get half the sigs on this site to not appear as question marks. I think we should create a page of our own to include that information (the Help: namespace could use some content, anyway). Of course, I'm not sure about the legality of just copying their page, as wikis tend to involve all sorts of legal issues that go straight over my head. Admins, what are your thoughts? --Martonimos((Argh|Blargh)) 00:26, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
Virtually every language shows up in the "Add..." diaglog except Chinese, Japanese, and Korean (the three languages I want to enable). --Shiny Noctowl 00:22, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
What system are you using? I've done this a few times on XP computers, and it works fine. --Martonimos((Argh|Blargh)) 00:26, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

I found the checkbox but it says I have to insert the XP disk to copy the files or install the files from another location. Since my computer came with XP pre-installed, where can I download the files? --Shiny Noctowl 01:55, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

I don't think you can install without the disk, unfortunately. My laptop is exactly the same. However, I downloaded Firefox 3, and I think that has Asian-character support built-in, because soon after getting it, Kanji and Katakana and Hiragana all started working (online at least, I dunno if it applies to offline too). Perhaps trying that would be a good idea. (and of course, I've mentioned it many times before, Firefox > just about every other browser.) -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 02:46, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
Its free for download on the Microsoft official sites. Just search for "Download Japanese alphabet", or something similar.KrytenKoro 08:36, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
Hmm, last time I did a search like that on Microsoft, the only things that popped up were downloads for Office XP (which you're not allowed to download if you don't own Office). But a google search just now found this. I believe I remember downloading something like this a long time ago, as a matter of fact; on my old, Windows 98se computer. I don't know if the "reading Japanese" method they list here works, because when I visited one of the Japanese sites they listed in IE, the characters displayed correctly (apparently IE reaped the benefits of whatever Firefox did)... but worth a try. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 15:22, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Slight problem.

Every single time I try to access Talk:Rocket Brothers, the message comes up "Internet Explorer has experienced a problem and has to close now blah blah blah". Is there something wrong with that talk page, or what? I'm Missingno. Master, and I approve this message. 11:24, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Well, I just went to it alright, maybe it was just a coincedence... How many times did you try? Theininen 13:47, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
If I'm reading that talk page correctly, there was a problem and now it's fixed... try holding down the Ctrl key and clicking your own link, that will force a refresh and hopefully fix any bugs that were cached in your end.
Or, better yet, stop using Internet Explorer. There's a good number of formatting methods that return errors in I.E., just look at the layout of my userpage for example (works great in Firefox, completely messed up in I.E..) -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 13:53, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Just wondering

I don't know where to post this question so I'm putting it here.

Would it be to much to ask for the 3D sprites from the 3D games (Stadium,Battle Revolution, etc.) to be in the articles? I always thought that they looked pretty cool and I figure they could have some small place in the articles kind of like the 3D sprites from the Smash Bros. series. Just a thought. Zabbethx 18:24, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

There's... there's no such thing as a 3-D sprite. --Martonimos((Argh|Blargh)) 01:57, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
Oh, same difference. "Model", if you want the proper term.--Loveはドコ? (talk contribs) 02:09, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
Well, we could probably get someone to rip the models and then take a screenshot. I'm not sure how good that would be, considering how many possible angles there are for a picture like that. --Martonimos((Argh|Blargh)) 02:16, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

DVDs

I was wondering if we could put DVD releases on the Season pages?

----HoennMaster 05:38, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Sure. We want to put DVD information somewhere and that's a good place for it. --FabuVinny |Talk Page| 12:35, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

i have an idea!!!

Lets put the footprint and party sprites of all gens on too!!! And for trainers we can have their walk-around sprites!!! And for HMs we can show pictures of the effect in action for each gen!!!Whatswithalltheextraspace 22:06, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Feel free to do so. --ニョロトノ666 22:09, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

um... how?Whatswithalltheextraspace 22:11, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Suggestions in search box

Hey, when did we get them? I go to sleep, I wake up, and here they are... Congrats. This makes life easier. --electAbuzzzz (TALK) 11:00, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Part of the MediaWiki program. Wikimeda FOundation has them too. Θρtιmαtum♏Talk|Links11:07 15 Aug 2008

Can't Upload

Why can't I upload? Alakazam 2

Are you trying to upload on Bulbapedia, or Bulbagarden Archives. You aren't able to do it on Bulbapedia anymore, it must be through the archives. Just click "Upload file" on the side bar. MoldyOrange 22:46, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
Anymore? Last time we could was before I joined. Meaning before August, 2006. TTEchidna 07:09, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
But you are saying that there was a point where you could upload on this wiki. :P -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 07:29, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
And if you click on a link to an image that hasn't been uploaded, it still gives you the option on the page, such as. On the page, it says "No file by this name exists, you can upload it."; when you click on the link, it tells you that uploading is disabled. Maybe someone should change the page to redirect to the archives. Theininen 15:11, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
On the very left side of every page in the toolbox is the link "Upload file". Clicking that automatically goes to the Archives' upload page, but you'll need to make an account there, too.--Loveはドコ? (talk contribs) 17:03, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
Is it still required, even after unified accounts were introduced? --Pokeresp 06:35, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Nope. --Martonimos((Argh|Blargh)) 07:10, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

New feature

Hi everybody. I have a suggestion of a new feature that could be implemented here in the wiki. I would like to read your opinion on having a feature that allows everyone to listen to Pokémon's crys. Let's say that I go to Pikachu's article and I want to hear to its cry. Then I see a "Play" button that would play the respective audio file hosted on the server. I'm suggesting this because Psypoke has such feature. Pokemon lover 15:09, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

We may implement it in the future. Wait and see. TTEchidna 03:07, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

An abundance

There is an abundance users returning now that the User Space is back.,......Your Friendly Neighborhood Cookie Monster

but there hasnt been much in the way of abuse...-- MAGNEDETH 01:54, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

12,000

Do you think we'll hit 12,000 articles today? --Hey1031 18:03, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Highly unlikely. Tomorrow, maybe. --ニョロトノ666 18:10, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
My money is on the 23rd.44 articles in one day seems improbableGood Day;DCM

If I had to put money on it, I'd do today because theres only 11 articles left! --Hey1031 17:28, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Featured Article

Finally an article is actually, um, featured. Featured articles are no longer pointless, and it's a nice touch on the front page. Porygon-Z 16:42, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

At my prodding, TTE finally did it. It's been well over a year since Brock was nominated, and it finally achieved FA status. --ニョロトノ666 17:20, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
I voted for Brock also:p. I am awesomeGood Day;DCM
I think we should have a new one on there everyday. Porygon-Z 00:57, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
That would take alot of Article Featuring...I FEATURE MY USER PAGE!!!!!!!!Good Day;DCM 00:59, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

I'd Featur Every User subpage!--KukiTalk 01:17, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Gen I

Gen I IS complete!

New Header

That's cool! Would be awesome if it linked to Bulbagarden, too! Porygon-Z 18:08, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

No, that would be somewha tobnoxious.Its obnoxious as it isGood Day;DCM
It's nice, aye, but a bit...intrusive. Well, big. For those of us that would prefer not to have it, can't you guys put an option to disable it in User Preferences or something?
And I fail to see how it's "obnoxious". Bulbapedia is a part of Bulbagarden, this is just part of global design consistency. Cipher 19:09, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Do you know of any other wiki's with a picture of a girl and her faithful companionGood Day;DCM
Most other wikis aren't part of a network of sites (except Wikia, and they really do splatter their name all over every wiki on the domain). Regardless, I'm not gonna bother discussing whether or not it's obnoxious, I just pointed out my view in passing. All I want to know is if an option can be made available to turn it off. Cipher 19:16, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Obnoxious. Very. Too much so. Please make it smaller. Please. --ニョロトノ666 19:39, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
I have to agree it's intrusive... cute and nice, but still intrusive. I'd have to ask for it to be togglable in the options menu too. ~Toastypk - Loom. 19:59, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
To remove it, go to "User:(your username)/monobook.css" and add the following line:
#bg-header {display: none}

--Shiny Noctowl 21:28, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Does Bulbagarden have a portal page? A base leading into Bulbapedia, and the forums, and whatnot... there should be a link to that somewhere in the header if so. As it is, it's slightly off-color for the rest of the site(s), and way to big for what it's doing (which is nothing). An option to turn it off would definately be nice, or at the least, make it a bit smaller. You can still fit Erica and Bulbasaur in at half the height, and most of the users here have good enough eyesight to handle smaller text as well. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 20:12, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

To combine Geo's 2 comments into one idea: make the header into the portal thing. it would be visible, easy, accessable, and if they made a built-in "hide" option, so much the better (and new users would see it first, also maybe making the forum better known to them, rather than the userpages). Theininen

User Name

Is there a way to change your username? Porygon-man 19:15, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Talk to Zhen Lin--KukiTalk 19:16, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

You must have a good reasonGood Day;DCM 19:16, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Template:villainous teams

Should we add Team Yamiyami to the template? it doesn't have a page, but it is a team, and we should also have someone with the game make a page for it, as we really should have one. Theininen 22:24, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

I have beaten the game. I dont know if i could do a page on them, but i could help add tiny bits to it. Team Yamiyami needs a page says I! -Rabla, 20:32, 26 August 2008

Thank you! When (and if) i get the game, I'll try to help too. But what about the template? anyone with sufficent authority to tell me yes or no? Theininen 16:59, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Generation IV

Um, it's finished. TheStick

Um, What's Finished? Cal05000 20:42, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Abilities

Abilities are done. Could any of the admins remove the table and the other things that are done? It looks bad because of the table. tc26 10:33, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

I think the Japanese names of characters' pokemon are wrong...

Well I'm 90% it's wrong anyway, if it's right it's a MAJOR coincidence and it's makes translating japanese to english very convenient. So, the Japanese call Ash "Satoshi" and Bulbasaur "Fushigidane", I don't have a problem with this in particular. However what I find really weird is articles like Ash's Bulbasaur claim the Japanese for "Ash's Bulbasaur" is "Satoshi's Fushigidane". When translating things like this you can't take the word for Ash and the word for Bulbasaur and slap a "'s" on to it. I'd be very surprised if the Japanese used the same possessive we do. For example the French for Bulbasaur is "Bulbizarre", but Ash's Bulbasaur in french would not be "Ash's Bulbizarre" it would be "Bulbizarre de Ash". I know the Japanese is romanized, but it would be too much of a coincidence if it was pronounced "Satoshi's Fushigidane". So, coincidence, one of the conventions you follow when romanizing japanese, or am I right and it's incorrect. I hope you understand what I'm getting at here. - unsigned comment from Jmvb (talkcontribs)

We know that it is not that, but...no one would understand what it said if we put "Satoshi no Fushigidane" so we just put. Satoshi's Fushigidane. It is easier for every to understand, since this is an English, American wiki, we cater to what the English language would have as the possesive. MoldyOrange 13:42, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
That's silly, what's the point in having the Japanese there if it's not even correct? - unsigned comment from Jmvb (talkcontribs)
Becasue we are an English wiki, not a Japanese wiki. If you don't like how we put things, leave. And sign your comments with ~~~~. MoldyOrange 17:14, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
Based on that logic there should be no Japanese at all, this is of course an english wiki. If you wanna put Japanese in make it correct at least. It's quite insulting to assume everyone who speaks english is a fuckwit who don't know other languages have different possessives. Even if you didn't know that, how many brain cells does it take "Satoshi no Fushigidane" means "Ash's Bulbasaur" in Japanese when it says "Ash's Bulbasaur, japanese: Satoshi no Fushigidane". Jmvb 17:24, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm in favor of changing the Japanese titles to proper grammar. Yes, it's an English wiki. Yes, the plural "s" makes it easier to understand... in English. The names are in Japanese however; if you're reading the Japanese title, then chances are you know Japanese, or want to know it. It's an insult to non-Japanese speakers to dumb it down, and it's an insult to Japanese speakers to spell it incorrectly. We're Bulbapedia; we provide some of the most useful Pokémon information on the web. If I want to know a Pokémon's moveset, I check here first. If I want to know what happened in the last episode of the DP saga, I check here. And if I wanted to know the correct Japanese title for a character or his Pokémon, I'd check here. And I'd automatically assume, like the rest of the site, that the title would be correct.
And for the non-Japanese speakers, if they want to know what the name means, then they can just read the English title... it's right on the top of the page... -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 18:25, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
So, Jioruji, I take it you're in favor of the correct Japanese terminology? i.e. Satoshi no Fushigidane as opposed to Satoshi's Fushigidane? I'd have to say I am too, for the reasons you mentioned. I'd be happy to go around and change those, since the current vote is three to one in favor. --ニョロトノ666 18:28, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
I guess I was only against it becauseof how vast the changes would have to be, all owner's Pokémon, all owner's cards (Which, mind you, is about 8 sets worth) all things owned by someone. A lot edits is never good, do you want the server to crash like it did in May? I didn't want the change because it was changed by other people when I had it on certain cards (check the history on Tory's Feelings). I think it would be a vast amount of edits just to satisfy a group of people who "Don't like it" when we don't have an adequet amount of opinions yet. Maybe bring it up on the forums? MoldyOrange 19:55, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm not a member of the forum, so someone else can bring it up.Jmvb 20:39, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

If your a member here your a member there.Try loggin in with an identical password and user nameDCM
Nope, it doesn't work. Someone else can bring it up Jmvb 20:39, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
Wiki accounts and forum accounts are not tied in to the universal system. You need a separate account on the forums. This used to be the case for each of the wikis as well prior to the universal system being implemented; however, the universal system covers only the wikis, not the forums. --Shiningpikablu252 20:42, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
And, if this is taken through and all the translations need changed, Bulbabot needs to do it so that we know every one gets changed and the recent changes aren't flooded. MoldyOrange 20:47, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
I've gone ahead and made a forum topic for this then, right here. Looks good? -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 00:31, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

No sprites????

I have an issue. When I load up a page, like a Pokemon page, its sprites dont show. actually, most of the pics dont show either. I dont know if this is because I use Firefox, or something else. Can someone help? Patriotfan09 03:35, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

It's not a Firefox issue, I use Firefox and sprites load fine. Do you have any extensions/plugins running on Firefox? Maybe one of them is stopping images from loading. Or, if you've got a firewall, or parental controls, perhaps Bulbapedia Archives is being blocked... most of the images are loading from there... -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 05:20, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Ok, how do I fix it? This is really confusing me... Patriotfan09 23:49, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Sometimes it's a problem loading the sprites and all images from the server. It ought to fix itself... TTEchidna 04:59, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Archive

The main talk is getting prettyu huge. Could someone archive it? Theininen 17:01, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Why not? MathijsP 17:59, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, this is getting to pretty big. like really HuGE. but TTEchidna's is still bigger... --Hey1031 01:35, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

not sure, dont blame it on me if fake

so I've seen this video on youtube about the five new Pokémon three of them are, all three look like rotom forms, type the following: "New Pokemon Revealed (rotom new forms)".remember dont blame it on me, I'll be so ****ing angry if its a fan who's playing a prank on us to amuse himself.--Nobody777 17:46, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Um. Link? Besides, it's very likely fake considering the fact that official information won't be released until September 28.--Loveはドコ? (talk contribs) 18:43, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

have you seen it, looks so identical I mean the leaflet.still did you see the video--Nobody777 12:58, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

"Romaji?"

Shouldn't the spelling technically be "rōmaji?" --ニョロトノ666 20:50, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes, but by that token, we should also be writing Tōkyō and Ōsaka instead of Tokyo and Osaka. - 振霖T 09:34, 28 August 2008 (UTC)