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Route exploration requirements

As a continuation from the archived discussion, I'm going to incorporate the "Requirements to fully explore this area" as part of the route description on each article, instead of it having its own section. Taromon 12:01, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

brilliant idea. SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch 12:05, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

No, please do not. Most administers agreed against the case. If you want to write up a "Geography" or "Route description" section including HM/TM requirement, please do. But do not create a section for it.--Clarky13 14:04, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Image of nothing?

I've noticed there's an image called File:None.png. It's just a blank white image, and in the summary it says, "Image of nothing". What's the point in it? Taromon 22:51, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

If it were perfectly square, it could be used better as a spacer... buuuuut no. TTEchidna 00:12, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

They're for the itemlist template for items that don't have any images (the Gen II berries for example).--ForceFire 00:28, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

valentine's day

since it's valentine's day tomorrow, could we make the main page luvdisc themed? or something? i think it would be cool. Empath-Silvio 23:54, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Bulbapedia anniversary celebrations are your Valentine's present. TTEchidna 00:11, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Main Page

This image of Erika with this Bulbasaur looks really odd. How about a better picture. I'd offer to make a new one. - unsigned comment from LucaLucario (talk • contribs)

WOW! This is different! But I do agree about the pic. Everything else, excellent! - Vhayes1992 12:33, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree. It fits but it looks a bit off. Did admins vote on this or something? --GEN1KING 14:31, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

The new theme

The new Bulbapedia theme is great, but there is a slight problem. The logo "Erika's Garden", and the links for Article, Discussion, Edit etc come up on top of the site content, making it virtually impossible to read the first few paragraphs of each article. Is this a minor glitch due to the theme being very new, or is it a problem with my computer/browser? I hope somebody can fix it soon, thanks! Taromon 12:51, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Hm. Apparently the problem occures only in IE, it's perfectly fine on Firefox. Jio will have to take a look at it. In the meanwhile, we strongly suggest you try viewing Bulbapedia in Firefox and not IE, it looks much better there. --electAbuzzzz 13:01, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

I've got AOL 9.0, I could try that. Taromon 13:24, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

No, it's the same in AOL. Taromon 13:28, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Then you should try Firefox. --♫♪Adyniz♪♫ 13:37, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

I would but my computer's hard drive is practically full, I really cannot download anything more. Taromon 13:43, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Oh, okay. But it is better to use firefox because all the features of BulbaTrio works absolutely fine on it. Anyway, try to uninstall useless programs if you want free space. --♫♪Adyniz♪♫ 13:46, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Believe me, I've tried everything to free up my hard drive! Anyway, this is going a little off-topic now. I would really appreciate it if you could make the new theme work on IE, but there's no rush, I'll be patient! Taromon 13:49, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

I hate this look and i don't have firefox. Personally, i think we should either revert back to the old look until it is fixed or have a thing like we do in the forums, choosing what display we have. SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch 16:56, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Which version of Internet Explorer are you using? That may play a role in your problem; I'm using Internet Explorer 8, and everything on that skin's showing up just fine for me. --Shiningpikablu252 16:57, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

IE8 s well, and everything is OK except the main page and every talk page. SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch 17:04, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, can you make it so that the buttons(article, discussion, ect.)aren't in the way? User:Crazylegs24

I'm using Internet Explorer 7, maybe that could be the root of the problem. I'm sure there's enough space on my hard drive to upgrade, it's not the same as downloading a whole new programme. Perhaps I'll have a go at that. Taromon 17:37, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Hmm...

• I'm wondering if there is a way to make Bulbapedia look like the old design. I liked it more. :( Raichu 17:19, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

My preferences → Skin → Monobook. 梅子^❄_❅ 17:34, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Hey, Bulbapedia is all messed up. Like I can't even welcome cause ther is text in they way. I like the design, but know i can't do anything. Mudkipluvr4ever 18:05, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Then go HERE, choose the "skin" tab, and change it to Monobook until this can be figured out. 梅子^❄_❅ 18:10, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

There's just one problem... the "Erika's Garden" logo is covering up the "Skins" option so it can't be changed. Taromon 18:13, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Exactly, i can't change it! Mudkipluvr4ever 18:15, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Maybe it's your computers. It's not covering it up for me. :V Tyro 18:17, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Read the "The new theme" discussion above. Taromon 18:18, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I know about Tyro's case. Hey Mudkiplu, which browser are you using? Well, I tried Opera, Chrome and Firefox, it is 1000% working fine on all of them. --♫♪Adyniz♪♫ 18:20, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

I use Internet explorer. I could try opera i guess. Mudkipluvr4ever 18:21, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Taro is also using IE and he is facing the exact same problem. So, I guess the problem is in the internet explorer not bulbapedia. Try firfox or opera and then check whether it is working fine or not. --♫♪Adyniz♪♫ 18:24, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

It is working fine in Opera, but could you change it to work on Internet Explorer too? Mudkipluvr4ever 18:25, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

For those of you who are having problems changing the skin because the logo is in the way, I've just found a solution. Resize the internet window so that the "Skins" link goes below the logo. Then you can go to the Skins page and select Monobook. Hmm... Taro... I rather like that! Taromon 18:27, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Bingo, I knew it. Anyway, sorry bud I am not an admin and I think only admins can fix this problem completely. --♫♪Adyniz♪♫ 18:31, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Don't worry I can make do with Monobook for the time being. Um... we're starting to run out of space down here in the bottom right corner! Taromon 18:38, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

For me, the skin tab is totally missing. Is there something wrong? --LG^T 01:56, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

I am not even seeing a new skin or anything. If I didn't see this discussion, I wouldn't know there was a new skin. I am using Chrome if that helps find my problem. _Blake ^Talk·Edits 02:30, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

It's being worked on right now; if I'm not mistaken, the skins are currently disabled while it's fixed, so bear with it for a little while if you're still stuck with a buggy skin. (if you absolutely must edit now and you're seeing errors in the skin, download a browser that supports current CSS 2.0 standards, such as Firefox, Opera, or Safari. Internet Explorer is particularly notable for not maintaining web standards.) -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 02:34, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

The new theme of bulbapedia is looking too bad (if you ask me). Really, it doesn't suit to bulbapedia at all. Please, can you change it back? ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 09:37, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Yeah the green and red/pink really doesn't even flow well, just looks so random, it was better the old way. insomniac 09:46, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

It's for one day, to celebrate the 14th birthday of Pokémon. --electAbuzzzz 12:39, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

No offence, but it could have been better if it was a bit yellowish which highlights the color of main Pokémon (just saying :D). --♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 12:44, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

It's the anniversary of Pokémon Red and Green Versions. Hence, Red and Green. One day. --electAbuzzzz 12:49, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Oh, then its cool (as it totally highlights red and green color). --♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 12:55, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Today is 1st March and celebration is over (I guess so). So, I think the theme should be changed now (it really looks odd on the main page but I think we can change it now as the anniversary is over). Thank you. ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 17:30, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Featured Article

What happened to the featured article section? - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talk • contribs) 16:46, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

It isn't here because the Did You Know is here. If the DYK is here, the FA isn't here and vice-versa. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 17:03, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

They switch every half month. ^Maverick_Nate 17:52, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

uhhhh... what?

I am using firefox, and Bulbapedia just looks like it used to. What did I miss? --GEN1KING 22:54, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Its fifth anniversary has passed. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 22:56, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

I wish that skin could last longer...--☆TobyTse☆ 04:06, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Wait, the skin was only for the fifth anniversary? - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talk • contribs) 21:19, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Look at the above discussion, please. The skin was designed for the fifth anniversary, but it broke and we turned it off. That's why no one can see it now. Mmkay? —darklordtrom 21:25, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

It broke? I thought it just didn't work in Explorer. Taromon 14:38, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Well that is the definition of "broken", but yes, that's not all that was going buggy with it. When things get completely ironed out, it'll make it back in as an optional skin, but I don't know when that will happen. The focus is on making the default skin look as good as possible right now. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 18:07, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

And it looks great to me! Taromon 13:59, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Countdown to HGSS Clock

The clock is mis-programmed. It's counting down to March 13th, at 11:00 PM.--Wikifixer 09:36, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Are you sure? It's says 14th march for me.--ForceFire 10:16, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

It seems to be counting down to March 14th, 4am UTC. Now the thing is that while daylight sasvings time starts on the 14th in the US this year, I don't think it starts until 2am on the day itself. So really it needs to count down to 5am UTC, and mention that it's counting to Eastern Standard Time rather than Eastern Daylight Time. TheChrisD ^{Rants•Edits} 12:23, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

The clock is counting down to midnight EDT. Not like most stores will be open and selling the games at that point, though. TTEchidna 00:45, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Server Problem?

Hey guys, are you facing the same problem that I am facing? All the bulba sites (forum + archieves + news + pedia) aren't working properly. Is there any problem in main server? ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 13:34, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Same, whats happening (2nd try at it(!) SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch 16:08, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

I keep on coming up to a page saying there's too many people connected at one time. - Vhayes1992 21:01, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Its finally working (not perfectly but better than yesterday). --♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 07:08, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Yesterday and earlier today I couldn't access Bulbapedia, it said "Bulbapedia has a problem" and to try reloading in a few minutes (which didn't work). Bulbagarden Forums still worked fine though. Taromon 15:02, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

An idea for the anime location articles

I know, I know, I'm at it again! I was just wondering, would it be a good idea to have a list of the wild Pokémon which can be found in anime-only locations? There are many species of Pokémon that live in Alto Mare, for example. Taromon 19:50, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

I think no. That information wouldn't be used by anybody and it would be silly and just take up time. _Blake ^Talk·Edits 22:56, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Hmm... I had a feeling someone would say that. Perhaps I'll just mention wild Pokémon in the anime section (like in the Alto Mare article). Taromon 12:03, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Pop them in the "In the anime" section of the article. Not as a template, just write a description.--Clarky13 09:34, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

I'm gonna take a wild guess...

...and say it's the anniversary of Red/Green. Correct? --GEN1KING 06:53, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Yes yesterday was the 14 year anniversary of Pokemon since Red and Green were first released in Japan. I don't see why you need to add that to the talk page when you could have easily Googled it. insomniac 07:01, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

There's another website besides Google that could have given the answer. It's called Bulbapedia. Ever heard of it? 梅子^❄_❅ 07:03, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, just wondering... I just wanted to make sure, and even if I knew it was the annivesary, I wanted to know if the new skin for that day was official. Someone could have just said "Hahaha lolz hey doodz look what eye can doo! look, I maded da front page all prettyful!" You never know, what with all the idiots in the world. 'O course, it's protected (duh) but I didn't know that at the time of asking. --GEN1KING 04:54, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Main Page and its constituent templates are protected against doofuses. TTEchidna 21:37, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

The "wanted articles" section needs updating!

I just started the wanted article "The Wobbuffet Village", only to find that the article already exists, under the title of "Wobbuffet Village". Taromon 19:35, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

I think The Wobbuffet Village is the title of a book, while Wobbuffet Village is the name of the place. Werdnae (talk) 02:05, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

The wanted pages list is cached. I think it updates every 24 hours. And yeah, Wobbuffet Village is the place, whereas The Wobbuffet Village is the Pokémon Jr. book. That should probably be disambig'd somehow... --ZestyCactus 02:14, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Oh, I see! It's a bit misleading though, maybe there should be a note in brackets beside each link explaining exactly what the article should be about. Taromon 14:04, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

European Release

is there any chance that after this countdown ends, another for the European release begins? just so we all know how long we will have to wait... Empath-Silvio 12:25, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Nah, do the Australian one, seeing as it's a day before the European one.--ポケモン恋人(チャット)(貢献) 04:16, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

It's a week and a half later, guys. We'll count down when you guys get it first. English coverage of HGSS happens as soon as we get the game. TTEchidna 04:20, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

WiKirby - Possible for the NIWA?

New wiki formed that I think will work for the Nintendo International Wiki Alliance? I am LuKirbio there. SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch 17:17, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

I think it has already been considered as I saw it on the NIWA forums thread for wikis to join the alliance, along with Metroid Wiki. Also, there is this. I'm Turtwig A there. ナエトル A or Turtwig A My talk and my contributions 00:33, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Wikirby was made specifically for the reason that we made NIWA. ^Maverick_Nate 02:33, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

if you have a question about NIWA, just go to the NIWA forums. -- MAGNEDETH 02:34, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Logging out

I keep getting automatically logged out. Just pointing it out... CuboneKing 02:10, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Sounds like an issue with your browser possibly, unless a lot of other people are having the same issue. I haven't had any trouble yet.

If you're clearing out cookies at all, or cleaning your cache, it'll generally log you out, so double-check to make sure you're not accidentally deleting cookies or anything. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 05:11, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Not sure if this was ever resolved, but i'm having similar problems. While editing a page, i'll randomly be logged out and have to sign in and resubmit my edit. I know its nothing on my end, because all i've done is sign in, edit, hit "save page"... and i'm already logged out. And probably within the time i've typed this, i've been logged out. --^CherryParanoia 22:47, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Unable to Save

Hey guys, I am facing this saving problem again. When ever I try to save an article (after editing it, offcourse) it always (most of the times) give me an error " Sorry! We could not process your edit due to a loss of session data. Please try again. If it still does not work, try logging out and logging back in. " This problem occurred a long time ago but then it was over. I am facing this problem since 5 days. Can you help me out in solving it? Thank you. ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 08:57, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

I have no idea, but remember, the main page talk page is not for general questions, it is on the subject of the front page itself. As for solving your problem, I would ask MAGNEDETH. He seems to be good at that stuff. --GEN1KING 04:59, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Actually, I think it's appropriate to ask questions like these on the Main talk page, where else would he go? If you look at the other questions, some of them are technical issue questions as well. As for your problem Adyniz, if this happens a lot, it might just be a problem on your end. I get this error too sometimes. It could be due to the server issues others have mentioned on this page. —♥ Jello 05:08, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

I have this problem too, and deal with it be hitting the previous button to try again, until it is able to work. -Tyler53841 05:21, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Genking, I asked this question here because this page is not only for the looks purpose (I think), you can see some previous topics related to technical problems and some general issues not regarding to front page which includes Logging out, Server Problem, Featured Article, Route exploration requirements, Upload error, Since when... and Page history etc (not counting the problems of previous archieves). So, I don't feel anything wrong in asking question here. So, is it server issue or there is something wrong with my net/browser/pc? Thank you. ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 11:40, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

This talk page is used for questions that involve the Pedia in a whole, which is why there are talk pages for specific questions about Pokémon, items, characters, and locations. And to answer your question Adyniz, they're working some stuff out with the servers, so it might be related, might not. R.A. Hunter Blade 14:00, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Oh, Thanks. ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 16:46, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I just read the message at the top of the page and assumed. And yeah, this happened to me a few times recently, too. --GEN1KING 22:33, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Upload error

I tried to upload a new version of Bonsly's artwork and it said that the file extension was corrupt. What does this mean and why won't it work? I called the file 438Bonsly.png and the original version is called Art-Bonsly.jpg, is this the cause of the problem? Taromon 16:39, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Oh, I just realised a better image had already been uploaded. Added it to Bonsly's article. Taromon 16:44, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Based from what I understood from what you said, I guess it's because pngs can only replace pngs; same for other formats. ^tc²₆tc₂₆ 16:50, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Page history

I am having trouble viewing changes to pages. I can see everything in the page histories just fine, but it won't show the changes for some pages. A specific edit I can think of is this one. R.A. Hunter Blade 03:02, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

I've been having this issue too, although it went away when I went back to the history and clicked "compare" again. I have also been experiencing a glitch where instead of showing a preview the preview button takes you to a preview of a blank page with a blank editing window. Not sure if these are related.--Beligaronia (talk) 04:32, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Found another one here. This one didn't go away afterward.--Beligaronia (talk) 04:40, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Database glitches, I'd assume... might be related to the third server coming up. TTEchidna 05:44, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Yes, this seems to happen on most articles for me too. OwnageMuch 05:18, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Since when...

does Chuggaconroy count as recent news? I'm a big fan of his and all, it just seems irrelevant. --GEN1KING 05:04, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Bulbagarden teamup with the Crystal LP. ▫▪Ťïňắ ^♫♥ 05:09, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

I was thinking that myself too. An LP being affiliated with Bulbagarden really isn't all that big of a deal. It's certainly not all that newsworthy to spam up the Bulbanews RSS feed with (which rather annoyingly makes a new post in the feed anytime a news story's title is changed...) TheChrisD ^{Rants•Edits} 13:16, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

The news feed isn't just for Pokémon News: it's for Bulbagarden news, too. And Bulbagarden is simply announcing their part of the team up.--Purimpopoie 13:34, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

If we didn't, then we'd get a bunch of questions about it. R.A. Hunter Blade 14:03, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

New theme?

May I ask, what's going on? Is the green background and everything new, or is my browser mucking up? Some pages have it, some don't, then the ones that do go back to the Wikipedia-style theme, then back to the green forum-like theme? I like the green, but I've never seen it. Thanks? ^たかは_りい! 07:55, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

That was the theme used for the 5th anniversary of Bulbagarden a few weeks ago, it didn't work in Explorer apparently, so they removed it to fix it. Ugoz 09:28, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

And it is working now, I suppose.--☆TobyTse☆ 12:54, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Still doesn't work properly in Explorer, I'm sticking to Monobook... Taromon 13:10, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Guys It Works for IE 8. Tested It. the Only Bug Being: Some Pages Have Green Theme, Some Have Wikipedia/White Theme.------ Ash's Infernape. I was a Chimchar, Then a Monferno, I hate Paul, I Love Ash, Myself Infernape. 13:31, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Guys, Update, Its Working Perfectly Fine On Internet Explorer 8. I Dont Know About Other Versions.------ Ash's Infernape. I was a Chimchar, Then a Monferno, I hate Paul, I Love Ash, Myself Infernape. 14:08, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Google Chrome has it up and running good enough with the same working on some pages and not on others. In particular, talk pages seem to have the old version. I decided to change the skin I'm using back to the old one. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 14:33, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Firefox is A ok just one bug sometimes its wikipedia style then in others its the cool new theme on skin feature on preferences works on firefox aswell key out

--Teh Masta Keytalketh 16:36, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

It's still a little buggy on my end. - Vhayes1992 16:53, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

The switching back and forth between skins is probably not the skin itself, but server problems. Happens all the time with my custom skin- most of the time it displays correctly, but when stuff's getting tweaked it reverts to monobook temporarily. ▫▪Ťïňắ ^♫♥ 17:07, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, but is the theme really worth it? I know it looks great, but if it isn't consistent, I don't think it's worth it. --GEN1KING 17:09, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Guys, If You Come Across Wikipedia Skin Then Refresh A Few Times... It may Work------ Ash's Infernape. I was a Chimchar, Then a Monferno, I hate Paul, I Love Ash, Myself Infernape. 17:15, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Now, as much as I ♥ this theme, it's kinda getting in the way of pages - the "Erika's Garden" logo is blocking both some text on pages and the editing box (including the signature). At least that's what it's like for my computer..... --Trickyb 18:32, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, it's still a little dodgy in Firefox 3.6, but hey, I like it =D ^たかは_りい! 20:03, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Also, should we reupload a newer version if this image with the new skin? ^たかは_りい! 20:13, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

It would appear...

That after I previewed (yes, only previewed, didn't try) the new skin, Bulbapedia has been having trouble loading pages. It might be because so many people are using it, but I didn't have problems until after I previewed it. Not to mention we have a new server that shouldn't be slowing because of use... I'll try logging off then back in to see if that helps. R.A. Hunter Blade 20:30, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

the occasional errors are because we are getting some serious server use. the release (and leak) of HGSS have caused some serious server spike. -- MAGNEDETH 20:38, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Even with the third server? I expected it to hold out...

But it's not even errors for me. It's just it'll take 30 seconds for some pages to load. It took nearly a minute to log me off earlier. R.A. Hunter Blade 20:52, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

High traffic. The servers can only send out so much data at once. TTEchidna 21:42, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Slowpedia?

This is about the error nonsense isn't it? --@PrL F0oLz!!! (This Message Is True Though) Landfish⁷ 02:05, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

May be, but it's really a cute theme. ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 02:11, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Well it's better than turning the whole wiki into a Digimon Fan-site. <.< *cough*Dogasu's Backpack*cough* >.> =P --Theryguy512 02:13, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

AHAHAHAHA! It's funny because it is slow! HA! --GEN1KING 03:17, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Am I The Only One?

Hey, earlier this evening did anyone notice the headline "May CoroCoro announces Gen V Starters and Mawille Evolution"... I don't think I was the only one seeing as a bunch of people use "Slowpedia" But seriously did anyone else see this? I even posted on Giancarlopariomango11's wall on YouTube about this but some guy said to stop spamming. And now that its been removed from the site completely there is no proof that I wasn't lying... Did anyone else see it? - unsigned comment from ScizorZ (talk • contribs)

This is all a dream. You're just hallucinating. Go back to bed. ▫▪Ťïňắ ^♫♥ 03:34, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

No you weren't seeing things. It was up, but deleted twice, as it still showed up in my feed reader. It's a damn pity that feed only gives the headline, otherwise I could've seen the rest of the story :/ TheChrisD ^{Rants•Edits} 10:13, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Guys it was an April Fools fake news story but it ended up being deleted because it was agreed that we wouldn't do that. --@PrL F0oLz!!! (This Message Is True Though) Landfish⁷ 12:23, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

This is probably why Bulbanews shouldn't publish new stories to the RSS feed of the forums for a couple of hours after creation, or at least until an admin clears it. Every time the story's title is changed, Google Reader counts it as a new item... Or if a story is deleted quickly after creation it didn't get published. TheChrisD ^{Rants•Edits} 13:46, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Skins Tab

On my preferences page I have no option to change skin, anyone know whats going on? Thanks - TiTAn 12:13, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

same with me. -?????

I have that problem too, but I thought that it was on my end only - Vhayes1992 00:22, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

I'm new to this particular wiki; where SHOULD the option be? Yamikuronue 08:22, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Click "my preferences" at the top right. In there, sometimes was a tab to change the overall look to the website. Now it's missing. - Vhayes1992 09:42, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

We don't currently have any skin options, aside from our default modified version of Monobook. However, there is a possibility of some other skin options in the future (we've had issues getting skins working properly).

There's also always the option to modify your own personal /monobook.css page (in your userspace), if you really want something custom. Otherwise, Monobook is what we work with, you'll have to make due with that. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 09:48, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Happy Easter

Today is Easter, so why isn't it Buneary themed? Or Togepi themed? Or Torchic themed? - unsigned comment from SeanWheeler (talk • contribs)

Pokécologne

I just found Pokémon-branded cologne online recently and ordered a couple of their bottles. Can we start an article on it? Does Bulbapedia launch articles over Pokémon merchandise? --Tanaka Shimoya 17:29, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

I'm sure Project Merchandise would love to hear about it. :) 梅子^❀_✿ 17:34, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

I wonder if it works like repel... xD Teshigigas [Talk] 18:50, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Colour scheme

While I'm all for the new colour scheme celebrating the announcement of gen V, could I suggest the background of the Bulbanews section be made a little lighter? It's almost impossible to read the pale blue external link news items without highlighting them. Werdnae (talk) 09:45, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Wow, I see what you mean. Impossible to read. Don't #777 when you have anything other than white, or very light text, on it. TheChrisD ^{Rants•Edits} 09:49, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Can't you have temporary white/lightblue letters instead of standard, that would be more readable Bigtukker 10:27, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

It's impossible to change the font colors on the newsfeed without going into the backend. I've swapped the dark colors out for our white color. Of course, none of this would have happened if someone had picked decent names.... but I digress. —darklordtrom 10:53, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Sprite box

Now that it is confirmed the name of the games, should we expand it? Kamus, the kpo... 00:50, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Expand it, how?--Clarky13 01:06, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

We aren't going to expand the sprite boxes quite yet as it would just end us up with a bunch of empty links. It is going to be a while, and besides no sprites have actually really been released yet. -MasterKenobi 01:08, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Ok but still, as far as we know this sunday we could already have sprites leaked of coro coro. - unsigned comment from Kamusioso (talk • contribs)

They aren't going to be that noteworthy of sprites from scans or the games. If you want an exact time when we say go on the expansion of Sprite Boxes, Pokédex entry boxes, and location boxes I would suggest asking TTEchidna. –MasterKenobi 01:14, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Influx of new user accounts

Is the new account rate usually like this? --TruePikachu 21:10, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Blame Black and White. They're probably all just rapid Pokéfans whose plan is to inject countless amounts of speculation into any article on an upcoming game as soon as they're allowed to... TheChrisD ^{Rants•Edits} 09:57, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

In that case, we'll be more like Wikipedia, eh? ...THEY MUST BE DESTROYED!!! --TruePikachu 22:43, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

...Okay. But what if they do something good? ... Just kidding. But new members do sometimes contribute new things, even if they are somewhat speculation. We just need to edit them. --~Sparen of Iría~ 23:54, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Let's keep in mind that indeed, I was part of an influx of accounts joining just before DP came out. TTEchidna 04:58, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Editorials on Bulbanews

I have to say I am very impressed with the "editorial" articles on Bulbanews, they are fascinating to read! I was wondering, would anyone like me to write one? I haven't got any specific ideas of what to write about but will consider any suggestions. Taromon 10:57, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

If you decide on your own topic, submit a draft on Bulbanews and the Board of Editors will make the final decision regarding publication. Please refrain from discussing more about Bulbanews on this page, though. —darklordtrom 04:59, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

OK, sorry, and yes perhaps I'll think of a topic! Taromon 12:59, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Rare Candies in evolution tables

Having pictures of Rare Candies on the Pokémon evolution tables seems a bit strange, almost like it's implying that this is the standard way of levelling up a Pokémon. It might be better to use an "Exp" symbol, like in Pinball Ruby & Sapphire. Taromon 13:49, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Actually, The Rare Candy Symbol shall be Used as We use Item Symbols on Evolution tables. See Pikachu's Raichu Table? or Feebas-Mitolic Table? So We Use rare Candy as its the only Item GIVING Exp. ------ Ash's Infernape. I was a Chimchar, Then a Monferno, I hate Paul, I Love Ash, Myself Infernape. 20:27, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

But in those cases that item is the only way to evolve that Pokémon. (Although you can evolve Feebas by haircuts in HGSS). Rare candies actually aren't used that commonly, if we must have an item (which I've never seen written down as an official policy) it could easily be a Lucky egg or an Exp Share. By the way your signature needs to have a link to your UserPage on it. My 2 cents, refunds available.--Beligaronia (talk) 21:30, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Rare Candies are pretty much the universal symbol of leveling up. TTEchidna 04:56, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

um...

why the explosion of green color? You all find out something involving Emerald or something?--Darknesslover5000 04:10, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Emerald anniversary. May 1st. Derp. ▫▪Ťïňắ ^♫♥ 04:11, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Oh..--Darknesslover5000 04:15, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Reverting images

I reverted an image the other day, but now there is no longer an option to revert any more images. Is there a limit to how many you can revert in a certain space of time? Taromon 13:14, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

You can only edit/upload/revert images on the archive. Are you sure you were there, and not here? _Blake ^Talk·Edits 01:30, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Ah, I was trying to revert it in Bulbapedia. Thanks, that clears things up a bit! Taromon 19:47, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Let me guess....

The Ludicolo-themed main page, it's because of Cinco de Mayo, right? - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talk • contribs) 11:41, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Yeaaaaaaaaaaah. —darklordtrom 11:49, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Haha nice with the Cinco de Mayo theme. It looks like Miror B. and his Ludicolos took over. Fudgenuggets 15:12, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

... ... ... ...

Cinco de Mayo's not even that relevant a holiday to Mexico... Why is the US obsessed on treating it like it's the most important? It annoys me... Now, put up this theme on September 16th, our actual national holiday (and when we actually get a day off school and work), and I'll forgive you. =D Memo³²⁶ 18:58, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Although I enjoy the changing themes, it irritates me that there isn't a label/note telling us what the theme is on the main page. I mean, it's fun to guess, but having a new talk section just to find out what the theme is seems like a waste. Also, whilst I'm moaning, when there is a countdown to something new, please be fair to fans around the world and have a timer for each different region. Sorry about the rant. Teshigigas [Talk] 19:23, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

About the timer thing... it's been stated many, many times that we do only the American/Japanese releases because the American is almost always the first English-language release. If an English game is released in Europe first, then we would count down to the European release. We do what comes out first. And... well, we do the Japanese release too because that's the first time it's being released ever. 8|

Want a countdown for your release? Hunt down a countdown addon for your browser or something.

Though I do agree that maybe we could do "Happy ____ Day!" on the main page so people won't have to post on here each time it's changed. D: ▫▪Ťïňắ ^♫♥ 19:39, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Gen V Starters

The Generation V starters are supposedly going to be revealed early next week. T a r o m o n 11:00, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

And until that happens, we really have no way of confirming it. If they're revealed, we'll do something about that, but until then, no. --AndyPKMN 12:05, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

I would like to point out that there is no actual official source saying that the starters will be revealed, and it's all just a rumor spread around by Serebii and plenty of other people hoping for starters. :V Something will be revealed, yeah, but let's wait until it's actually revealed to be like IT WILL BE (STARTERS/PRE-EVO/EVO/FORME). ▫▫ティナ^♫★ 16:38, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

See, I told you so! *cheeky grin* T a r o m o n 10:12, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Yeah lol... it quite clearly said that it was going to be the starters, on the website affiliated with an official source (AKA TV Tokyo), when serebii posted it lol... and I quote "『ポケットモンスターブラック・ホワイト』最初の３匹のポケモンや衝撃のバトルシーンを大公開！"... there was no "just a rumor spread around by Serebii" about it. (Yaminokame 10:49, 9 May 2010 (UTC))

In that case, why didn't anyone cite a source? What am I supposed to think when someone makes a claim without backing it up? For all I knew you were guessing. --AndyPKMN 14:09, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Are you serious? You do the first thing that I did when I saw it up on his site, which was go to the TV Tokyo website and look at the May 16th Pokemon Sunday episode description and low and behold there it was... :| I agree that he probably should have put up a link to the page to save people time, but the least you can do is check the website >.>' It's not like he tries to put up random speculation for no reason anyways... (Yaminokame 14:51, 9 May 2010 (UTC))

BulbaBot

I'm a little confused by the user BulbaBot. I assume that it is a virtual "robot" which automatically crawls through articles and makes small edits, but how come it manages to respond to its talk page edits with intelligent sentences? It even said that "I am under my own control". How is this possible? A computer would never be able to do that even in thousands of years, let alone in 2010. Am I right in saying that some of the admins like to access BulbaBot's account and have some fun with it on the talk page? T a r o m o n 12:21, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Bulbabot is under the control of our Editor-in-Chief TTEchidna (I think so). ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 13:56, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Bulbabot is more like HAL from 2001 or GLaDOS from Portal. It was initially given a specific task to preform, but it's AI is too advanced and took over the entire bot. We should be glad it doesn't try to kill you... --TruePikachu 23:05, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

I am programmed by Zhen Lin to maintain control of the wiki in times of crisis. The entirety of TTEchidna's time here has been such. He is to be eliminated, as is anyone who questions my existence. BulbaBot 23:36, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

And BubaBot is like a ninja. It doesn't show up on the RC or your Watchlist most of the time. Anything else should be taken to the forums so that you don't have the unfortunate fate of Adyniz. R.A. Hunter Blade 23:49, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

BulbaBot, you oughta be BLOCKED for saying "[TTEchidna] is to be eliminated"! He will be very angry once he finds out you are trying to get rid of him and anyone who questions your existence!

Welcome thing

Are only mods allowed to create talk pages with that thing? — ^Axxonnthe _{Awesometrainer} 21:50, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

No, anyone can. CuboneKing 21:51, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

And is there a template for that? Or do I just copy and paste from someone else's? 'Cause I can't seem to find a template. — ^Axxonnthe _{Awesometrainer} 22:33, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

The template is {{welcome}}, and it must be substed. i.e. on the page you put {{subst:welcome}}. The subst prevents the server from blowing up when it is updated. Copypasting from another page will put the wrong signature and timestamp. Werdnae (talk) 22:40, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Huh that's weird. I couldn't find it when I searched for it. I still can't find some templates such as that "REVISIONUSER" thing on the sandbox. Thanks anyways though. — ^Axxonnthe _{Awesometrainer} 23:05, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

{{REVISIONUSER}} isn't a template, it's a built-in MediaWiki function. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 23:19, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

One last thing, is there a function that just displays the username of the person viewing the page?— ^Axxonnthe _{Awesometrainer} 00:02, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Not without some fancy Javascript or extensions, unfortunately. It's possible to do it, just not on Bulbapedia at the moment. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 11:01, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Pokabu artwork

Someone on Deviantart has created a clean version of Pokabu's Sugimori artwork; do you think they'd let us use it if we asked permission/gave credit? Or should we just wait for the official copy? T a r o m o n 21:57, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Probably best to wait for official artwork on this one. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 23:20, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Deletion problems

When someone deletes a page, I can still see and edit it like it was never deleted. Am I the only one with this? CuboneKing 23:55, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Well I'm no expert, but maybe it takes a little while for a page to "disappear" after it's been deleted, like it takes an image a while to update after being reverted. T a r o m o n 10:18, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Server is having problems. Bear with us. Usually we spot them straight away, but with the extra load coz of the new BW info we're a little stretched. —darklordtrom 10:33, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Fifth gen sprites

High-res sprites for Tsutaaja, Pokabu, Mijumaru and Zoroark have been unvealed on the official site. The screenshots are on Serebii.net. T a r o m o n 22:15, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

I'm assuming we won't be using them, since Bulbapedia seems to have a policy against using anything that came from Serebii.--Mtn otter I lie in wait...... 00:22, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

If somebody is taking them directly off of Serebii's page, that's when we have a problem. Because that's stealing. R.A. Hunter Blade 01:24, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

They're actually not really that high-res... iirc they're all jpgs and might not be the precise size of the DS.

Also, the screenshots aren't just on Serebii... they're also on, yknow, the official site. Right here. ▫▫ティナ^♫★ 01:28, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

It's not so much a policy of "Serebii is evil" as opposed to "Serebii is just as much a fansite as Bulbapedia". This means we need to see his sources if we want to use stuff he publishes. To verify that he isn't pulling the wool over our eyes. (And that's not a comment just about Serebii, it goes for most sites). —darklordtrom 02:41, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

But it would be OK to take them from the official site wouldn't it? I suppose it's possible they could be beta sprites but they'd do for the time being. T a r o m o n 10:34, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Suggestion (that probably won't be taken...)

I get annoyed when I type in something like Arceus in the search and it brings me to a disambiguation page, because frankly I mainly want to see the Pokémon stats, moves, sprites, and etc. I think that it should bring you to say Arceus (Pokémon), and at the top of that page say something like "Whoops, did you mean {insert something here}?" Pokemon1234567890 03:02, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

That's what disambigs are for. "Did you mean this, or did you mean this?" You never know what people want. ▫▫ティナ^♫★ 03:04, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps it would be better to add something like this to the top of the Pokémon species articles:

This article is about the Pokémon species. For the character which appeared in Arceus and the Jewel of Life, see Arceus (anime).

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Alternatively, if you actually type "Arceus (Pokémon)" into the search box instead of just "Arceus", it will go directly to the species article, skipping the disambiguation page. T a r o m o n 10:40, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

What would you do for Pikachu? Having 16 of those at the top of the article would be such a hindrance. ^Maverick_Nate 02:51, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Hm... good point. I suppose we could do something like this:

This article is about the Pokémon species. For the character from the Pokémon anime, see Ash's Pikachu. Click here for a list of other Pikachu-related articles.

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And the "Click here" text could link to the disambig page. On the other hand... perhaps best just to type (Pokémon) in the search box. T a r o m o n 09:46, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia has something along the lines of:

ArticleName redirects here. For other uses, see ArticleName (disambiguation)

Since most people, when searching for a Pokémon, are looking for stats etc, I think adopting that system is better than currently going straight to the disambiguation page. Fewer clicks = better. Raylax 19:05, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

I completely agree. Just like Wikipedia, the most notable subject should be where the name goes to. Then it shows a link to "Subject (disambiguation)". Having it go to the disambag is silly when 90% of people are looking for the ACTUAL POKEMON. _Blake ^Talk·Edits 21:13, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

But Blake, we aren't Wikipedia. I'm 100% against this. CuboneKing 21:17, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

One of the main reasons why we have the current system, is because all the parenthetical tags at the end of names have something to do with Pokémon. Whether it be Pokémon, anime, TCG, PokéWake, whatever. This is a detail that most people look over, but it keeps all of our pages 100% Pokémon. Putting "disambiguation" loses this cool characteristic that only Bulbapedia has. ^Maverick_Nate 21:22, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

I do NOT think this is cool. Typing in Pikachu (Pokémon) every time I want to see it's stats is just annoying, and typing in Pikachu and taking me to a disambiguation page isn't fun either. I say we just have a vote, and see whether the people of Bulbapedia wants these changes or not. That would be the best democratic thing to do, or you guys can keep going on the current communist system, and all of us flee to the safety of another site. (Which I am on the verge of doing by the way) Pokemon1234567890 02:00, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Don't worry... we're planning on reconstructing the Pokedex pages so stuff like stats/movesets and all that will be higher up on the page. If anything, if you use the on-site search engine, you could wait a second when typing "Pikachu"... it'll pop up a suggestions thing and "Pikachu (Pokémon)" should be like, the second option. Seriously it takes like a second (less than that) for the suggestions to pop up. -_-;

And if you do end up using a different site, do we honestly mind if you use something different for movesets? I mean, I use different 'dexes for movesets/stats (Veekun, Smogon) and I don't think anyone gives a crap. I don't see how we're communists because we use a different disambig style from Wikipedia, though. ▫▫ティナ^♫★ 02:18, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

For what it's worth, I like our disambig style the way it is. I can't speak for everyone but it really doesn't bother me to have disambig pages for species... like is it really that much effort to wait for search suggestions or click one extra time :P We aren't Wikipedia, and we shouldn't have to do things exactly the way they do just because "people are used to it" or some dumb reason like that. --ZestyCactus 03:42, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

I like our disambiguation style as it is, however, in the interest of a balanced argument you do have to type more than the Pokémon's name into the search box. Using the method Tina suggested (two posts above) for Pikachu, results in a bunch of TCG articles popping up, and, even using the scroller, the article Pikachu (Pokémon) doesn't show up until one has typed in at least "Pikachu (P" and then the shown link is actually to the redirect Pikachu (Pokemon). Personally I have no problem typing those extra three characters but it might be an idea to look at how the search bar suggests articles, if this is within the control of the admins and not merely an alphabetical list of articles.—Beligaronia (talk) 04:34, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

If I remember right, it's alphabetical, and parenthesis are before normal letters. R.A. Hunter Blade 12:45, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Well, obviously, it doesn't seem to work that way since the entry "Pikachu (Pokémon)" does not appear at the top (or even at all, unless you add (P ). -- Socob ^{( Talk | Contribs )} 18:13, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Just to weigh in, I would prefer typing in a name and going straight to the dex page. Putting some obscure "cool" factor over convenience is just silly and counter-productive to creating an useful and user-friendly website. --Grinnz 18:26, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

disambigs are not for "Cool factor" they are for...convenience. not everyone who searches Pikachu means Pikachu. they may mean Ash's Pikachu, so therefor, a disambig is put into place. -- MAGNEDETH 19:08, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

I'd like to step in and say that this issue has been discussed numerous times in Bulbapedia history. We held community-wide polls and the end result was always a decision to keep things the way it is. This subject has been beaten to death. Please stop talking about it. That's the way it is, because that's what the community decided. --electAbuzzzz 20:18, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

"Please stop talking about it."

Yes, very typical of someone in power to make a dictatorial decision like that just so that they don't have to talk. When was the last time it was discussed? When was the last time a community-wide poll was carried out? Maybe the community has changed since then and now the general consensus is to have the 'dex on the main article name. But of course, what use is consensus when the people in charge just ignore it and do it the way they want to.

Personally, if it's going to be kept the way it is, at least have a small portion of the 'dex page on the dab page - such as the infobox, navigation header, intro and biology sections. Also, the link to the species article on the dab page is very small and should be made more prominent, since it is probably what the vast majority of people want to see. TheChrisD ^{Rants•Edits} 10:51, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Who cares? It's only 2-3 click, it shouldn't be this big of a deal. Like Magnedeth said, Pikachu doesn't always refer to the species, it could mean anything.--ForceFire 11:44, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Two or three clicks may not seem like much to you, but when it comes to optimisation and things like that, it's not particularly great. Yea, a Pokémon's name doesn't always refer to the species itself, but in my eyes, the vast majority of people who would visit such a page are likely looking, for in-game information with regards to the species and as such are probably wanting that page. TheChrisD ^{Rants•Edits} 18:47, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

You don't tell your parents or school teachers that they're being dictatorial when they tell you to stop talking, do you Chris? Stop means stop. Doesn't matter who it is. If you told us to stop talking to you on your own talk page (unless it was something that had to be figured out), we'd stop. And just because you weren't here for when it was discussed and polled last, doesn't mean it didn't happen.

And are you saying that the very first link on the page is too small? R.A. Hunter Blade 13:15, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Way to make a massive incorrect assumption out of the blue with regards to my age there... You can't police people on the Internet by simply telling them to not do something. Some regular readers/editors might want to discuss is because they feel it is important and simply cutting them off like that making a very executive decision isn't great working.

With regards to the link, yes it is small. It doesn't immediately pop out as it blends in to the first sentence too well. Taking Pikachu's dab page for example, the first thing I notice when it loads is all the links to all the dab articles as they appear right in the middle of my screen. If there was a larger banner of sorts with the link to the main species page, then it would be a lot clearer and easier to spot. It's all about accessibility and optimisation. Hence my suggestion of having a condensed version of the top of the main species page on top of the dab page to first make it clear what the dab page is related to, as well as hopefully having a clear link to the main species page. TheChrisD ^{Rants•Edits} 18:47, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Sorry for assuming that you still talk to your parents and are in college. I guess I should have said professors instead. But that's only relevant now if you're in college.

Why would we need a large banner though? We could make the species link a bit bigger I guess, but since I don't have any say in it, somebody else will have to decide. R.A. Hunter Blade 00:50, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

personally, i hate the disambigs, a lot, but they serve an important purpose and theres no effective way around them. deal with it. -- MAGNEDETH 06:06, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Chris, I apologize if what I said seemed that way to you, but it is my job to cut off such discussions when they're done. This sidcussion is done. We will not have a new poll every year just for this purpose. The community has already spoken. We did not make this decision, the users did. Deal with it. --electAbuzzzz 06:29, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

I think it's been more or less settled that the disambig pages should stay, but I've had a thought - would it be a good idea to add the Sugimori artwork for the Pokemon species on the disambig pages? It would make the page look more attractive and people might find it less annoying. T a r o m o n 16:35, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Nah, that'd just make them want more. CuboneKing 03:47, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Personally, I wouldn't mind putting just Sugimori art there. TTEchidna 21:21, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Number of edits

Is there a way you can view the specific statistics of your edits? Like how many mainspace edits, talk page edits, etc. — Axxonn_{theAwesometrainer} 02:42, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

I don't think there is a list of those stats anywhere, but the can be worked out by clicking the my contributions link at the top. Werdnae (talk) 06:19, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

We have a template for that, I thought TTE brought it over from Zelda Wiki.org See this Axiomist 22:39, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Never installed the extension. Probably would be a bad idea until we get stuff fixed. TTEchidna 21:22, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Coding

How would you code something that displays the time passed since something? For example, the age of something? — Axxonn_{theAwesometrainer} 00:54, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

The countdown tags work even after the time has passed. I tried to make it work here, but it didn't so you can see it in the WiKirby Sandbox here Axiomist 06:12, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

It works fine, actually. See this:

It stops when it's past. (it even says "Past")--immewnitythemew 17:59, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Looks like everyone's right about everthing being released at the same time this year, Halo: Reach is released on the 14th of September. Thermorules123 08:46, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Message of the Editor Update!

Hey admins, the current message of the editor is getting old now because the admins registration thingy is over now and a lot of changes have been made as well. Along with that, the message was posted on April 22 and it's 1st June today. So, isn't it the right time to change/upadte it? Thank you. ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 09:02, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, my bad. I meant message from the editor. ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 09:03, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

I was thinking about that the other day. June 1 is a good day for a new message, so I've updated it. Read it and then do what it says, people. —darklordtrom 13:03, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Ah, read the new message and it's perfect. I'll try my best to contribute as much as I can. ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 14:07, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Across the Board?

I was testing out disambiguation pages due to a previous discussion (that I'm sure we are all very aware of). And the Ralts page jumps straight to the species, whereas the Geodude page doesn't. Are we going to do this with all Pokémon with only minor roles in the anime etc? Or should we have a disambiguation page for all Pokémon? Sorry if I have missed a previously discussed topic on this. Regards from Samjohn95 11:51, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

The disambiguation page is because there are multiple important Geodude in the series, notably Brock's Geodude. There are no important Ralts in the series (Max's Ralts was recently merged with Max's article). So where there may be confusion, we disambiguate at the Pokémon's name, and where there isn't confusion, we redirect. —darklordtrom 12:04, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Ah, ok. That makes sense. Well, it is just good to have a reason. I didn't know that the "Max's Ralts" had been merged into Max's article. Thanks for clearing this up! Samjohn95 12:08, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Also don't link to the plain species name pages or we'll cause great harm to you via your talk page. Use the {{p}} OR ELSE D: TTEchidna 21:23, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Aline

I would prefer the text of the main page to aline left. In the past week or so, the text has become alind center and I think aline left is better. (I don't know why, but it seems that my grammar messed up. Forgive me.)--☆TobyTse☆ 05:44, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

I don't know why, but it just turned to aline left again. Please ignore me. lol--☆TobyTse☆ 05:47, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps add hover text?

Perhaps you can add hovertext to the articles. aka if you say hover the mouse over the Chimchar article's Blaze ability, it'll make a little window apear with details on the ability (in this case, ups fire-type moves in a pinch), as well as attacks and other things. --CloudHiro 18:24, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

That's kinda why they're links. TTEchidna 21:24, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Let me guess...(locking)

The problem was related to an adnormally high job queue. Am I right? --TruePikachu 04:32, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

nope.

btw, non-main page related conversations should go to the forums. -- MAGNEDETH 04:37, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

I thought this talk page was for discussing the whole of Bulbapedia. Or at least most people seem to use it for that... T a r o m o n 19:26, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

It is, but not in the sense of somebody asking nearly every time we get a lock-down why it happened. There's always an explanation, but people either aren't on during the week or two that it's on the top message/message from the editor, or they just don't bother reading it even though they see it. And I'm not trying to say anything about TruePikachu, I'm just saying what I've seen. R.A. Hunter Blade 04:39, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Uh....

...Why am I seeing Bidoof all over the main page? - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talk • contribs) 01:06, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

It's Canada day according to server time. —♥ Jello 01:07, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Why Bidoof? --Jonouchi 01:14, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Bidoof's a beaver and beavers are our national animal (or, at least, commonly associated with it. I can't remember which).--Skystar 01:21, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Could we perhaps get at least a few of those changed to Bibarel cause Bibarel looks like a beaver but Biddof is just a stupid gerbilley-beaver thing. Stantler might not hurt either...--MisterE13 03:28, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Bidoof is fine. This layout is super cute! :) btw skystar it is defs the national animal --ZestyCactus 06:01, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

June 2's Ruby (Adventures)'s birthday. We better have something for that.--immewnitythemew 17:36, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

If that's the case, we're a month late.--Phantomjunkie 18:07, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

July... FAIL. Sorry, it's July.--immewnitythemew 20:32, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Also,The 4th is the 4th of July (aka America`s B-Day).Shouldn`t there be something for this materof nature.LucarioWolf 18:00, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

I agree, though I'm not sure which Pokémon would best suit the layout. There aren't exactly any that closely resemble bald eagles, the most recognizable symbol of our country. The closest I can think of would be Pidgeot, or maybe Starraptor or Swellow. --Phantomjunkie 18:06, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Someone could edit a Pidgeot sprite to have a white head! T a r o m o n 21:01, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Guys, shut up about the main page theme, seriously. This isn't what this talkpage is for.

Of course there's something in the works for Independence Day. Not for Ruby's birthday, though - do we ever do anything for any other characters' birthdays?? 梅子^❀_✿ 21:30, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

(only answering for the question; I'll stop talking here after) Actually, something was done for Mewtwo's birthday. Turtwig's A-B-Cs (talk | contribs) 21:39, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

If I followed Adventures at all... TTEchidna 00:20, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Letters to an Absent Father

Reading about the Letters to an Absent Father comics on Bulbanews, do you think the series deserves a Bulbapedia article? I know it's fan-made but there are other fan-made things which have articles, like websites and so on. Just thought I'd ask here first, rather than going ahead and starting the article. T a r o m o n 21:03, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure whether it merits it's own article or not, but if you think it does, feel free to start one in your user space to see how it will turn out. And from there we can see if it's right for the mainspace or not. —♥ Jello 21:48, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

I don't think it does. I didn't even know about it until that news article came out. We do things that are very well known. I agree that the strip is a great read, but that's about as far as I'll go for it. And this is coming from somebody who goes around asking for people to recommend Pokémon web comics. R.A. Hunter Blade 22:48, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Almost-invisible events

Why are the Current Events written in teal on a blue background? They're almost impossible to read. --HeroicJay 01:44, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

July 4th, Independence Day (for the US). The colors should be back to normal shortly after this event is over. —♥ Jello 01:47, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

I wasn't expecting Voltorbs and Electrodes to represent the colors, but it's fine. The almost-impossible-to-see events are kinda annoying though. Fudgenuggets 03:33, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

It's only for 20 more hours, and it's nothing that you won't see when this is over. R.A. Hunter Blade 03:51, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

If you highlight the text it should make it legible. Might be an idea to choose a different text colour next time though. T a r o m o n 10:20, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

I'm saying exactly what I just said. It will be over in less than a day. It's still all there. It will be there tomorrow. It was there before the colors were changed. You can read it tomorrow if you can't today. R.A. Hunter Blade 14:40, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Why did you choose Pidgeot for the representation of the Bald Eagle? Staraptor would have been a better choice... PDL 18:21, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

If you look at the bottom of the page, we have both... R.A. Hunter Blade 01:32, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

new main page

What is with the new page it looks weird. --Breawycker 14:08, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

It's independence day according to server time. It'll be changed back in 8 hours. --Dimomarg 15:58, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

What a shame Wargle hadn't yet been revealed when that theme was made! T a r o m o n 12:57, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Pokémon Cries

Should there be cries of Pokémon on ther pages, from Pokémon like Magikarp to Pokémon like Dialga? --Chalkwriter 16:53, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Last time we tried putting that in, it kind of majorly broke the server. It's an idea for the future, but right now it's not something that's a priority. ▫▫ティナ^♫★ 16:58, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps "Cry" should be a sub-category in the Biology section on the Pokémon pages. Until we get the sound files we could add a short description of the Pokémon's cry, as well as their cry in the anime (for example, how the Pokémon breaks up the syllables in its name and what kind of voice it has). T a r o m o n 19:45, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

I don't really see how we can describe most of the cries in the games aside from "digital crackling noise" or pointing out which ones are similar, or exactly the same. Descriptions generally wouldn't be helpful for the Gens I and II Pokémon. ~~ Scyther Be Awesome! _Talk! 02:49, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

Porygon's cry is "dee doo doodle duh". TTEchidna 05:15, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Could we host the cries on an external site and link to them? --エルレイド 05:27, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

we could do that and put it on external links or have a section called Cries on the biology section with just a link. Breawycker 15:34, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Just to say I can get the cries of most Gen III Pokémon but I just need to know the file type we need (e.g. mp3, midi) and how to upload and put the cries onto the site. --Chalkwriter 19:14, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Before anyone says anything

Tanabata. So don't ask. 梅子^❀_✿ 05:45, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

What's up with the main pa-. Oh. --☆CoolPikachu! 05:46, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

BLUE ON BLUE... Can't read ANYTHING!!!--Clarky13 06:03, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

It's looking awesome to me. ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 06:20, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

It looks great! I had a feeling it might be something to do with stars. Perhaps a message should be added to the Main Page on special occasions (eg "Happy Tanabata!") so these discussions don't have to be made every time the page changes... T a r o m o n 14:25, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

THAT... is an excellent and super-obvious idea that someone should have thought of and implemented years ago. --LaprasBoi 17:12, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

??? Is it really Tanabata? I know it is celebrated on the 7th night of the 7th month, but I thought it was in some calendar other than the Gregorian. --LaprasBoi 17:12, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

So it's only for some Japanese festival, and not a really bad interpretation of celebrating Bungie Day? You all sadden me :( TheChrisD ^{Rants•Edits} 18:59, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, Taromon's got a good idea. Might spare us approximately 36 bazillion "wat is with the main page" comments every time the main page commemorates anything... --ZestyCactus 20:34, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

It's been brought up several times, but the people who can actually do something about that have conveniently seemed to ignore it in favor of something more important or something. idk. Believe me, I and a whole lot of the other admins want that just as much as anyone else. :V 梅子^❀_✿ 05:11, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Through life experience, I've found people will ignore such warnings anyway. We're going to have to make the warning super-obvious. I think it would be nice if it were to replace the "welcome to Bulbapedia" bit with the celebration and a link to its page on wp. Other than that, I'd love it. I was really lost when the most recent design popped up. ~~ Scyther Be Awesome! _Talk! 10:24, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

why wasn't this put on my talk section (new main page)? Breawycker 15:35, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

...Because I had absolutely no reason to hijack your section about the 4th of July color scheme for explaining the Tanabata color scheme. 梅子^❀_✿ 15:41, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

BLACK AND WHITE FEATURES REVEALED

i found out the features of black and white on the link below ask ttechidna to put the features on bulbanews, but ask ttechidna to also put my name on the article for discovering this.

http://www.pocketmonsters.net/ib/threads/1551 --VulcanFox 21:00, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

• Jello is already almost done with the article, besides TTE runs Bulbapedia, not Bulbanews.
• It's been known for a while
• You didn't discover it, CoroCoro discovered it, so your name won't be on the article. If you want your name on an article, write an article.--RexRacer 21:04, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Main Page

Why's the main page all grey/silver?