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== Legendary groups == | |||
(Attempt to prove the mess of legendary groups can be organised properly. wip.) | |||
Most legendary Pokémon are part of a group. | |||
There are groups in which members share an equal amount of similarities (no member sticks out or has exclusive features, unless they all do with the same impact **) | |||
and there is the role of a master or guardian, who are related to a group but are superior to them in several ways. | |||
Groups share a combination of many of the following traits ("+"-always the case): | |||
:+specific method of encounter* | |||
:+released in same generation | |||
:+next to each other in pokedex order* | |||
:+same stat total | |||
:+secondary type, if any | |||
:+similar learnsets (same levels, shared minor moves, comparable moves, especially STAB) | |||
:+shared mythological background or origin story, if any | |||
:-most cases even having exact same individual stat numbers in varying order | |||
:-similarly working ability | |||
:-similar design basis | |||
:-main type | |||
Masters might share several of the above traits with their group, but always have some clearly superior traits or exclusive features. | |||
Some masters might be part of a group of their own league. | |||
:'''*'''There can be a few deviations in the case of version mascots (because of later releases of the third version) such as small dex-gaps and the final appearance being kept secret. | |||
:'''**'''An exception is Suicune, who starred as the version mascot of Crystal due to lack of fitting candidates. | |||
==Legendary Trios== | |||
Most famous kind of legendary group, with 3 equally similar and equally contrasting members. These are the first legendaries to appear in each generation and have 580 total base stats | |||
{| class="roundy" align="center" style="background: #272727; border: 4px solid #525252" | |||
|- | |||
! colspan="3" style="background:#{{cynthia color light}}; {{roundytop|5px}}" | {{color|{{cynthia color dark}}|Legendary trios}} | |||
|- | |||
| align="center" style="background:#{{ice color light}}" |[[File:144.png]]<br>{{pcolor|Articuno|728c8c}}<br>{{typecolor|Ice}}<br>{{typecolor|Flying}} | |||
| align="center" style="background:#{{electric color light}}" |[[File:145.png]]<br>{{pcolor|Zapdos|8a7a30}}<br>{{typecolor|Electric}}<br>{{typecolor|Flying}} | |||
| align="center" style="background:#{{fire color light}}" |[[File:146.png]]<br>{{pcolor|Moltres|634221}}<br>{{typecolor|Fire}}<br>{{typecolor|Flying}} | |||
|- | |||
| colspan="3" align="center" style="background:#{{cynthia color light}}" |{{color2|{{cynthia color dark}}|Legendary birds}} | |||
|- | |||
| align="center" style="background:#{{electric color light}}" |[[File:243.png]]<br>{{pcolor|Raikou|8a7a30}}<br>{{typecolor|Electric}} | |||
| align="center" style="background:#{{fire color light}}" |[[File:244.png]]<br>{{pcolor|Entei|634221}}<br>{{typecolor|Fire}} | |||
| align="center" style="background:#{{water color light}}" |[[File:245.png]]<br>{{pcolor|Suicune|47587e}}<br>{{typecolor|Suicune}} | |||
|- | |||
| colspan="3" align="center" style="background:#{{cynthia color light}}" |{{color2|{{cynthia color dark}}|Legendary beasts}} | |||
|- | |||
| align="center" style="background:#{{rock color light}}" |[[File:377.png]]<br>{{pcolor|Regirock|5c5427}}<br>{{typecolor|Rock}} | |||
| align="center" style="background:#{{ice color light}}"|[[File:378.png]]<br>{{pcolor|Regice|728c8c}}<br>{{typecolor|Ice}} | |||
| align="center" style="background:#{{steel color light}}" |[[File:379.png]]<br>{{pcolor|Registeel|504f4f}}<br>{{typecolor|Steel}} | |||
|- | |||
| colspan="3" align="center" style="background:#{{cynthia color light}}" |{{color2|{{cynthia color dark}}|Legendary golems}} | |||
|- | |||
| align="center" style="background:#{{steel color light}}" |[[File:638.png]]<br>{{pcolor|Cobalion|5c5427}}<br>{{typecolor|Steel}}<br>{{typecolor|Fighting}} | |||
| align="center" style="background:#{{rock color light}}"|[[File:639.png]]<br>{{pcolor|Terrakion|728c8c}}<br>{{typecolor|Rock}}<br>{{typecolor|Fighting}} | |||
| align="center" style="background:#{{grass color light}}" |[[File:640.png]]<br>{{pcolor|Virizion|504f4f}}<br>{{typecolor|Grass}}<br>{{typecolor|Fighting}} | |||
|- | |||
| colspan="3" align="center" style="background:#{{cynthia color light}}" |{{color2|{{cynthia color dark}}|Legendary Musketeers}} | |||
|}{{-}} | |||
Generation IV was the "ultimate" generation, hence why instead of the usual trio, the version mascots themselves were a proper trio, meeting most requirements and of course having 680 total stats instead of just 580. These were accompanied by a sub-trio of all Psychic-type legendaries relevant to their plot, with matching colours. The traits of each Lake guardian (what they represent/method of obtaining/distribution of stats) seem to be based on the trios of the preceeding three generations (Birds - Azelf, Beasts - Mesprit, Golems - Uxie) | |||
Giratina underwent a change with the release of its Platinum version, gaining a forme with altered stats, look, and ability. | |||
{| class="roundy" align="center" style="background: #272727; border: 4px solid #525252" | |||
|- | |||
! colspan="3" style="background:#{{cynthia color light}}; {{roundytop|5px}}" | {{color|{{cynthia color dark}}|Ultimate trio}} | |||
|- | |||
| align="center" style="background:#{{steel color light}}" |[[File:483.png]]<br>{{pcolor|Dialga|504f4f}}<br>{{typecolor|Steel}}<br>{{typecolor|Dragon}} | |||
| align="center" style="background:#{{water color light}}" |[[File:484.png]]<br>{{pcolor|Palkia|47587e}}<br>{{typecolor|Water}}<br>{{typecolor|Dragon}} | |||
| align="center" style="background:#{{ghost color light}}" |[[File:487.png]]<br>{{pcolor|Giratina|413953}}<br>{{typecolor|Ghost}}<br>{{typecolor|Dragon}} | |||
|- | |||
| colspan="3" align="center" style="background:#{{cynthia color light}}" |{{color2|{{cynthia color dark}}|Creation trio}} | |||
|- | |||
| align="center" style="background:#{{psychic color light}}" |[[File:480.png]]<br>{{pcolor|Uxie|703e4e}}<br>{{typecolor|Psychic}} | |||
| align="center" style="background:#{{psychic color light}}" |[[File:481.png]]<br>{{pcolor|Mesprit|703e4e}}<br>{{typecolor|Psychic}} | |||
| align="center" style="background:#{{psychic color light}}" |[[File:482.png]]<br>{{pcolor|Azelf|703e4e}}<br>{{typecolor|Psychic}} | |||
|- | |||
| colspan="3" align="center" style="background:#{{cynthia color light}}" |{{color2|{{cynthia color dark}}|Lake guardians}} | |||
|}{{-}} | |||
==Legendary duos== | |||
There are duos of rather minor importance, with 580/600 total base stats. | |||
{| class="roundy" align="center" style="background: #272727; border: 4px solid #525252" | |||
|- | |||
! colspan="2" style="background:#{{cynthia color light}}; {{roundytop|5px}}" | {{color|{{cynthia color dark}}|Minor legendary duos}} | |||
|- | |||
| align="center" style="background:#{{dragon color light}}" |[[File:380.png]]<br>{{pcolor|Latias|703e4e}}<br>{{typecolor|Dragon}}<br>{{typecolor|Psychic}} | |||
| align="center" style="background:#{{dragon color light}}" |[[File:381.png]]<br>{{pcolor|Latios|703e4e}}<br>{{typecolor|Dragon}}<br>{{typecolor|Psychic}} | |||
|- | |||
| colspan="2" align="center" style="background:#{{cynthia color light}}" |{{color2|{{cynthia color dark}}|Eon duo}} | |||
|- | |||
| align="center" style="background:#{{psychic color light}}" |[[File:488.png]]<br>{{pcolor|Cresselia|703e4e}}<br>{{typecolor|Psychic}} | |||
| align="center" style="background:#{{dark color light}}" |[[File:491.png]]<br>{{pcolor|Darkrai|703e4e}}<br>{{typecolor|Dark}} | |||
|- | |||
| colspan="2" align="center" style="background:#{{cynthia color light}}" |{{color2|{{cynthia color dark}}|Lunar duo}} | |||
|- | |||
| align="center" style="background:#{{flying color light}}" |[[File:641.png]]<br>{{pcolor|Tornadus|703e4e}}<br>{{typecolor|Flying}} | |||
| align="center" style="background:#{{electric color light}}" |[[File:642.png]]<br>{{pcolor|Thundurus|703e4e}}<br>{{typecolor|electric}}<br>{{typecolor|Flying}} | |||
|- | |||
| colspan="2" align="center" style="background:#{{cynthia color light}}" |{{color2|{{cynthia color dark}}|Kami duo}} | |||
|}{{-}} | |||
And Version mascot duos, with the usual 680 total base stats. | |||
{| class="roundy" align="center" style="background: #272727; border: 4px solid #525252" | |||
|- | |||
! colspan="2" style="background:#{{cynthia color light}}; {{roundytop|5px}}" | {{color|{{cynthia color dark}}|Version mascot duos}} | |||
|- | |||
| align="center" style="background:#{{psychic color light}}" |[[File:249.png]]<br>{{pcolor|Lugia|703e4e}}<br>{{typecolor|Psychic}}<br>{{typecolor|Flying}} | |||
| align="center" style="background:#{{fire color light}}" |[[File:250.png]]<br>{{pcolor|Ho-oh|703e4e}}<br>{{typecolor|Fire}}<br>{{typecolor|Flying}} | |||
|- | |||
| colspan="2" align="center" style="background:#{{cynthia color light}}" |{{color2|{{cynthia color dark}}|Tower duo}} | |||
|- | |||
| align="center" style="background:#{{water color light}}" |[[File:382.png]]<br>{{pcolor|Kyogre|703e4e}}<br>{{typecolor|Water}} | |||
| align="center" style="background:#{{ground color light}}" |[[File:383.png]]<br>{{pcolor|Groudon|703e4e}}<br>{{typecolor|Ground}} | |||
|- | |||
| colspan="2" align="center" style="background:#{{cynthia color light}}" |{{color2|{{cynthia color dark}}|Weather duo}} | |||
|- | |||
| align="center" style="background:#{{fire color light}}" |[[File:643.png]]<br>{{pcolor|Reshiram|703e4e}}<br>{{typecolor|Dragon}}<br>{{typecolor|Fire}} | |||
| align="center" style="background:#{{electric color light}}" |[[File:644.png]]<br>{{pcolor|Zekrom|703e4e}}<br>{{typecolor|Dragon}}<br>{{typecolor|Electric}} | |||
|- | |||
| colspan="2" align="center" style="background:#{{cynthia color light}}" |{{color2|{{cynthia color dark}}|Dragon duo}} | |||
|}{{-}} | |||
Then there is also some imbalanced duos, each consisting of a parent and a child. | |||
The first represents creation of life through artificial means (cloning), with the result being a stronger creature. | |||
while the second represents creation of life through natural means (breeding), with the result being a weaker version of the original. | |||
In both cases, the original actually appears after the child in the pokedex. | |||
{| class="roundy" align="center" style="background: #272727; border: 4px solid #525252" | |||
|- | |||
! colspan="2" style="background:#{{cynthia color light}}; {{roundytop|5px}}" | {{color|{{cynthia color dark}}|Birth duos}} | |||
|- | |||
| align="center" style="background:#{{psychic color light}}" |[[File:151.png]]<br>{{pcolor|Mew|703e4e}}<br>{{typecolor|Psychic}} | |||
| align="center" style="background:#{{psychic color light}}" |[[File:150.png]]<br>{{pcolor|Mewtwo|703e4e}}<br>{{typecolor|Psychic}} | |||
|- | |||
| colspan="2" align="center" style="background:#{{cynthia color light}}" |{{color2|{{cynthia color dark}}|Mew duo}} | |||
|- | |||
| align="center" style="background:#{{water color light}}" |[[File:490.png]]<br>{{pcolor|Manaphy|703e4e}}<br>{{typecolor|Water}} | |||
| align="center" style="background:#{{water color light}}" |[[File:489.png]]<br>{{pcolor|Phione|703e4e}}<br>{{typecolor|Water}} | |||
|- | |||
| colspan="2" align="center" style="background:#{{cynthia color light}}" |{{color2|{{cynthia color dark}}|Sea fairy duo}} | |||
|}{{-}} | |||
==Additional group members== | |||
Some legendary Pokémon are masters of a lesser legendary group. For several of them, enabling an encounter requires the player to have obtained its complete group. | |||
{| class="roundy" align="center" style="background: #272727; border: 4px solid #525252" | |||
|- | |||
! colspan="3" style="background:#{{cynthia color light}}; {{roundytop|5px}}" | {{color|{{cynthia color dark}}|Bird trio}} | |||
|- | |||
| colspan="3" align="center" style="background:#{{psychic color light}}; {{roundybr|5px}};" |[[File:249.png]]<br>{{pcolor|Lugia|{{psychic color dark}}}}<br>{{typecolor|Psychic}}<br>{{typecolor|Flying}} | |||
|- | |||
| align="center" style="background:#{{ice color light}}" | {{MSP|143|Articuno}}<br><small>{{pcolor|Articuno|{{ice color dark}}}}</small> | |||
| align="center" style="background:#{{electric color light}}" | {{MSP|144|Zapdos}}<br><small>{{pcolor|Zapdos|{{electric color dark}}}}</small> | |||
| align="center" style="background:#{{fire color light}}" | {{MSP|145|Moltres}}<br><small>{{pcolor|Moltres|{{fire color dark}}}}</small> | |||
|} | |||
{| class="roundy" align="center" style="background: #272727; border: 4px solid #525252" | |||
|- | |||
! colspan="3" style="background:#{{cynthia color light}}; {{roundytop|5px}}" | {{color|{{cynthia color dark}}|Beast trio}} | |||
|- | |||
| colspan="3" align="center" style="background:#{{fire color light}}; {{roundybr|5px}};" |[[File:250.png]]<br>{{pcolor|Ho-oh|{{fire color dark}}}}<br>{{typecolor|Fire}}<br>{{typecolor|Flying}} | |||
|- | |||
| align="center" style="background:#{{electric color light}}" | {{MSP|243|Raikou}}<br><small>{{pcolor|Raikou|{{electric color dark}}}}</small> | |||
| align="center" style="background:#{{fire color light}}" | {{MSP|244|Entei}}<br><small>{{pcolor|Entei|{{fire color dark}}}}</small> | |||
| align="center" style="background:#{{water color light}}" | {{MSP|245|Suicune}}<br><small>{{pcolor|Suicune|{{water color dark}}}}</small> | |||
|} | |||
{| class="roundy" align="center" style="background: #272727; border: 4px solid #525252" | |||
|- | |||
! colspan="2" style="background:#{{cynthia color light}}; {{roundytop|5px}}" | {{color|{{cynthia color dark}}|Weather duo}} | |||
|- | |||
| colspan="2" align="center" style="background:#{{ground color light}}; {{roundybr|5px}};" |[[File:384.png]]<br>{{pcolor|Rayquaza|{{dragon color dark}}}}<br>{{typecolor|Dragon}}<br>{{typecolor|Flying}} | |||
|- | |||
| align="center" style="background:#{{water color light}}" | {{MSP|382|Kyogre}}<br><small>{{pcolor|Kyogre|{{water color dark}}}}</small> | |||
| align="center" style="background:#{{ground color light}}" | {{MSP|383|Groudon}}<br><small>{{pcolor|Groudon|{{ground color dark}}}}</small> | |||
|} | |||
{| class="roundy" align="center" style="background: #272727; border: 4px solid #525252" | |||
|- | |||
! colspan="2" style="background:#{{cynthia color light}}; {{roundytop|5px}}" | {{color|{{cynthia color dark}}|Kami duo}} | |||
|- | |||
| colspan="2" align="center" style="background:#{{ground color light}}; {{roundybr|5px}};" |[[File:645.png]]<br>{{pcolor|Landorus|{{ground color dark}}}}<br>{{typecolor|Ground}}<br>{{typecolor|Flying}} | |||
|- | |||
| align="center" style="background:#{{flying color light}}" | {{MSP|641|Tornadus}}<br><small>{{pcolor|Tornadus|{{flying color dark}}}}</small> | |||
| align="center" style="background:#{{electric color light}}" | {{MSP|642|Thundurus}}<br><small>{{pcolor|Thundurus|{{electric color dark}}}}</small> | |||
|} | |||
==Event Fairies== | |||
Most generations introduced a standalone fairy-like event-Pokémon, with every base stats being 100. | |||
{| class="roundy" align="center" style="background: #272727; border: 4px solid #525252" | |||
|- | |||
! colspan="4" style="background:#{{cynthia color light}}; {{roundytop|5px}}" | {{color|{{cynthia color dark}}|Event fairies}} | |||
|- | |||
| align="center" style="background:#{{Psychic color light}}" |[[File:251.png]]<br>{{pcolor|Celebi|703e4e}}<br>{{typecolor|Psychic}}<br>{{typecolor|Grass}} | |||
| align="center" style="background:#{{Steel color light}}" |[[File:385.png]]<br>{{pcolor|Jirachi|703e4e}}<br>{{typecolor|Steel}}<br>{{typecolor|Psychic}} | |||
| align="center" style="background:#{{Grass color light}}" |[[File:492.png]]<br>{{pcolor|Shaymin|703e4e}}<br>{{typecolor|Grass}} | |||
| align="center" style="background:#{{Psychic color light}}" |[[File:494.png]]<br>{{pcolor|Victini|703e4e}}<br>{{typecolor|Psychic}}<br>{{typecolor|Fire}} | |||
|}{{-}} | |}{{-}} |
Revision as of 22:50, 12 March 2012
My personal improvements of eeveelution learnsets, including a hypothetical wind element based final evolution.
Legendary groups
(Attempt to prove the mess of legendary groups can be organised properly. wip.)
Most legendary Pokémon are part of a group.
There are groups in which members share an equal amount of similarities (no member sticks out or has exclusive features, unless they all do with the same impact **) and there is the role of a master or guardian, who are related to a group but are superior to them in several ways.
Groups share a combination of many of the following traits ("+"-always the case):
- +specific method of encounter*
- +released in same generation
- +next to each other in pokedex order*
- +same stat total
- +secondary type, if any
- +similar learnsets (same levels, shared minor moves, comparable moves, especially STAB)
- +shared mythological background or origin story, if any
- -most cases even having exact same individual stat numbers in varying order
- -similarly working ability
- -similar design basis
- -main type
Masters might share several of the above traits with their group, but always have some clearly superior traits or exclusive features. Some masters might be part of a group of their own league.
- *There can be a few deviations in the case of version mascots (because of later releases of the third version) such as small dex-gaps and the final appearance being kept secret.
- **An exception is Suicune, who starred as the version mascot of Crystal due to lack of fitting candidates.
Legendary Trios
Most famous kind of legendary group, with 3 equally similar and equally contrasting members. These are the first legendaries to appear in each generation and have 580 total base stats
Generation IV was the "ultimate" generation, hence why instead of the usual trio, the version mascots themselves were a proper trio, meeting most requirements and of course having 680 total stats instead of just 580. These were accompanied by a sub-trio of all Psychic-type legendaries relevant to their plot, with matching colours. The traits of each Lake guardian (what they represent/method of obtaining/distribution of stats) seem to be based on the trios of the preceeding three generations (Birds - Azelf, Beasts - Mesprit, Golems - Uxie)
Giratina underwent a change with the release of its Platinum version, gaining a forme with altered stats, look, and ability.
Ultimate trio | ||
---|---|---|
Dialga Steel Dragon |
Palkia Water Dragon |
Giratina Ghost Dragon |
Creation trio | ||
Uxie Psychic |
Mesprit Psychic |
Azelf Psychic |
Lake guardians |
Legendary duos
There are duos of rather minor importance, with 580/600 total base stats.
Minor legendary duos | |
---|---|
Latias Dragon Psychic |
Latios Dragon Psychic |
Eon duo | |
Cresselia Psychic |
Darkrai Dark |
Lunar duo | |
Tornadus Flying |
Thundurus electric Flying |
Kami duo |
And Version mascot duos, with the usual 680 total base stats.
Version mascot duos | |
---|---|
Lugia Psychic Flying |
Ho-oh Fire Flying |
Tower duo | |
Kyogre Water |
Groudon Ground |
Weather duo | |
Reshiram Dragon Fire |
Zekrom Dragon Electric |
Dragon duo |
Then there is also some imbalanced duos, each consisting of a parent and a child.
The first represents creation of life through artificial means (cloning), with the result being a stronger creature.
while the second represents creation of life through natural means (breeding), with the result being a weaker version of the original.
In both cases, the original actually appears after the child in the pokedex.
Birth duos | |
---|---|
Mew Psychic |
Mewtwo Psychic |
Mew duo | |
Manaphy Water |
Phione Water |
Sea fairy duo |
Additional group members
Some legendary Pokémon are masters of a lesser legendary group. For several of them, enabling an encounter requires the player to have obtained its complete group.
Bird trio | ||
---|---|---|
Lugia Psychic Flying | ||
Articuno |
Zapdos |
Moltres |
Beast trio | ||
---|---|---|
Ho-oh Fire Flying | ||
Raikou |
Entei |
Suicune |
Weather duo | |
---|---|
Rayquaza Dragon Flying | |
Kyogre |
Groudon |
Kami duo | |
---|---|
Landorus Ground Flying | |
Tornadus |
Thundurus |
Event Fairies
Most generations introduced a standalone fairy-like event-Pokémon, with every base stats being 100.
Event fairies | |||
---|---|---|---|
Celebi Psychic Grass |
Jirachi Steel Psychic |
Shaymin Grass |
Victini Psychic Fire |