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:::Then the story returns us to the present ([[EP001]]). [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:52, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
:::Then the story returns us to the present ([[EP001]]). [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:52, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
::::Honestly, I would ask {{U|Playerking95}} about it. They're the one who [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=JN001&type=revision&diff=3052195&oldid=3052178 introduced the whole flashback idea] in the first place, and everyone just went with it. But I'm inclined to say the episode's a flashback based on its placement in the anime chronology. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:55, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
::::Honestly, I would ask {{U|Playerking95}} about it. They're the one who [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=JN001&type=revision&diff=3052195&oldid=3052178 introduced the whole flashback idea] in the first place, and everyone just went with it. But I'm inclined to say the episode's a flashback based on its placement in the anime chronology. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:55, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
== JN022 synopsis ==
I wrote a synopsis for [[JN022]] a few days ago. Have you taken a look at it yet? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:44, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Revision as of 19:44, 23 May 2020

Oopsy...

I did it again, I still forget about my grammar problems... Sorry. Luigitehplumber (talk) 23:10, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Request

While you were inactive for several days recently, I wrote a synopsis for SS010 and completed the incomplete manga description of Pokémon Village. Feel free to check those if you haven't already. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 08:44, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

I'll see what I can do. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 08:46, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
Have you checked either of those yet? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 08:24, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
Not yet. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 08:26, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
XY133 and XY134's synopsises contain unnecessary and excessive repeated links. I tried to edit the former, but due to a misclick, I accidentally undid all of my unsaved edits there, and really don't feel like doing it again. Could you help? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 10:32, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
Good to have you back after several days of absence. Are you willing to help me in my aforementioned request? Also, may I ask for the reason behind your absence? Real life taking priority, I assume? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 08:25, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
Too much happening right now. Won't be able to do what you ask me to do. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 08:25, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
Okay. Let's wait until things settle down. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 08:53, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

Removing signatures

Please do not just remove other users' signatures for no reason and replace them with the unsigned template. If the user signed when the comment was submitted (or a trivially short time afterwards), it should remain. --SnorlaxMonster 12:15, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

I have reason to believe DarkDan (talkcontribs) is manually creating those new signatures, hence why I removed them and replaced them with the unsigned template. Compare the signatures in the last two talk page sections here. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 08:13, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
Even if you suspect that a user might be manually creating signatures, as long as the timestamps are correct they're valid signatures, so you shouldn't remove them. Of course, you seem to have jumped to the conclusion that the user was manually creating signatures because they changed their signature once, rather than the more obvious conclusion that between the two comments they changed their signature.
But again, even if you had suspected that the user was manually creating their signature, replacing every instance of their signature with {{unsigned}} was grossly inappropriate, especially since doing so is not even against the rules (whereas removing their signatures was). The user could easily have interpreted your edits are targeted harassment.
Furthermore, per the talk page policy, please keep discussions on a single page, rather than replying on my talk page. --SnorlaxMonster 11:34, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

Istiyaq

Hey there. I get you're only trying to help, but you should leave issues regarding possible sockpuppetry to staff members. There's no need for you to interrogate the user.--ForceFire 12:25, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

Warning etiquette

Hey GrammarFreak. While it is completely fine to warn users for minor offenses in an attempt to get them back on the right track, I please urge you to refresh yourself with our warning policy. Please note per the policy that users shouldn't give out warnings for major offenses, such as sockpuppeting, especially if a staff member has already addressed them. There have been several instances where you have interjected yourself into disciplinary discussions between a user and staff members, which can be deemed inappropriate and overstepping one's authority. It is also unfair and confusing to the user on the receiving end, because there have been instances where you have not been completely correct while trying to enforce rules/policies. Please do not continue to jump in to reprimand users while staff are already addressing a situation. Continuing this behavior could lead to blocks for insubordination. If you have any questions about this, please reach out to myself or another Editorial Board member. Thank you. --Pokemaster97 15:52, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

This is the second instance that I am having to leave a message regarding interjecting yourself into disciplinary discussions between a user and staff member. Force Fire's message was more than adequate, you do not have to step in and attempt to further instruct users on their conduct, as it can come across as rude. This is your last warning on this subject. Thank you. --Pokemaster97 16:27, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Champion

Lance was still mentioned as the Indigo league champion in the preview of SS012. The trivia mentions he lost his championship somewhere in the middle of the anime, is it right? Please answer quickly!! --Dhiwakar (talk) 14:53, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

Sorry about that, Lance was mentioned as the member of the Kanto Elite four by Go in the preview of SS012. Thank you Dhiwakar (talk) 14:21, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

Not notable

Why do you say Ash losing his winning streak is not notable? Dhiwakar (talk) 12:02, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

Because you guys didn't make it clear we were talking about a winning streak. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 00:11, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
Thank you, GrammarFreak01 Dhiwakar (talk) 02:57, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
Next time, make it clearer. Context is just as important. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 11:46, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

Permission

Permission to make my user page please - unsigned comment from Starfan13 (talkcontribs)

You don't have to ask for permission... GrammarFreak01 (talk) 08:09, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

Nanny and Pop-pop

I couldn't help but notice your edit history on this page. While it's completely fine to disagree with an edit and question its validity, you undid ii kanji's edit despite her leaving a solid amount of evidence on the talk page and without addressing anything of her points. There's nothing wrong with having your doubts about the evidence of course, but undoing an edit with "I'd beg to disagree" without addressing any of ii kanji's points and not stating why you disagree and/or offering any counterpoints to her evidence is a bit strange. Especially since you were the one requesting evidence from ii kanji in the first place. Without doing so, you're essentially edit warring, something you've been told not to do multiple times in the past. Thank you and I hope you consider this. ☼ BlazingFist ☼ 13:56, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

Deleted appearances

Hello,

Noticed your latest edits on Abe, Harper and Sarah's pages. The deleted appearances was because they are main characters and had no major role in the plots of the said episodes including SM145. These should be removed yet again. PardescanSlowbro (talk) 09:04, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

That applies to main characters, though, not recurring ones. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 09:04, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
It did for Anela, Officer Jenny, Professor Oak, Nurse Joy amongst others. The Poke Problem sections are also contentious, they were all omitted from the episode plots as they are a Japanese exclusive section, while this is an English wiki. PardescanSlowbro (talk) 09:07, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
That's because Professor Oak, Nurse Joy, etc., are clearly going to be on the show as long as Ash. Recurring characters who appear in one or two series are exempt. As for Anela, I'll be restoring that content. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 09:09, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
Leave it for now, I'll address it with an admin as you've been the only one to restore this since its deletion. The re-added appearance info is hardly important to the characters' development. PardescanSlowbro (talk) 09:10, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
Honestly, though, I'm not sure what was removed on the Anela article. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 09:11, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
And characters' development is not what's at stake here. It's a complete record of all their appearances in the anime. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 09:12, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
For Anela the page was listing the many times she was seen in the Hau'oli marketplace, which was quiet a few times. PardescanSlowbro (talk) 09:17, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
I'm not seeing any recent diffs that reflect such changes. Unless those removals were made way far back. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 09:19, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
So were the others, plus other users and admins haven't said anything and no one has tried re-adding any of it. Though only now it has been brought into question? PardescanSlowbro (talk) 09:21, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
Because those articles were saved in my inbox, and not Anela's article. My account's apparently very selective in which emails are allowed to come through, otherwise my inbox would be filled with probably tens of thousands of notifications. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 09:23, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
Is it also a coincidence that your order of editing coincides exactly with my past edits?PardescanSlowbro (talk) 09:25, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
No. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 09:26, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
I've asked you to stop this habit many a time as it is deliberate and I don't like it. PardescanSlowbro (talk) 09:28, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

(resetting indent)Not exactly. At this point, I'm just trying to clear out my inbox. I know you've been editing a lot more articles than what's in my inbox right now, but I'm not going to bother with those. I've also been ignoring all the edits you make to episode articles, because at this point, it's too much of a chore to edit the plot sections. I've only bade my time because I knew you'd freak out like this. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 09:31, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

So you know what would happen, but you went ahead anyway?
All of our edit conflicts have been because you overstepped the mark deliberately, especially tracing my edit pattern immediately after an addition or months later, it makes no difference as it is still calculated and irritating to me and others, who've spoken up. You don't need to have the latest edit on the page, I'm not after that myself, I simply don't want work to be completely re-written and in many cases a synonym change being added. Strive for quality edits, which you have been making like on Ash's Pikachu page which looks great not quantity. My editing quality, which is seemingly part of your issue with me on this site, hasn't been questioned by anyone else. Do not continue this behavior with me anymore PardescanSlowbro (talk) 09:40, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
Leave my edits alone, stop waiting for months to tick by it is still plainly obvious what you are doing. I've told you before, many a time. You keep deleting too much for no good reason. PardescanSlowbro (talk) 01:50, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

See the answer

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Force_Fire#Tracey.27s_Scyther Hikaru Wazana (talk15:15, 01 April 2020 (UTC)

Misty's outfit

Why is it not notable to be in the trivia? I thought if it was based on her appearance in the anime, it might as well be mentioned on her anime pageTheGreenBeetle (talk) 04:55, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Could you please respond?!TheGreenBeetle (talk) 20:47, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
Sorry about the delay in response. I just feel that trivia belongs somewhere else in another article. Can't recall the name right now, though... GrammarFreak01 (talk) 00:46, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

Zangoose

Hey, can you add a trivia about Zangoose's purple claws?--Rocket Grunt (Report To Me) 11:59, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Short block

After some consideration, I've decided to go with a one day block. While I don't think you've did too much edit warring, and did come to my talk page to discuss an issue, I suggest that you report a user that you feel isn't listening (i.e. continually reverts multiple edits) rather than having to revert their edits again.--ForceFire 16:00, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

Mini-modding

I know I've told you this several times before... I'm gonna keep it simple. Realize when things are "above your paygrade". When staff gives someone a warning, it is not your place to butt in. Leave staff business to staff. If you really have some great worry, you would probably be best advised to go directly to the staff member instead. Tiddlywinks (talk) 18:05, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

Ritchie

No human character is separated by Kanto / Johto / Hoenn, only for the sagas in which they appear if you doubt ask ForceFire. u_u Hikaru Wazana (talk) 23:47, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

If you're talking about this discussion, nowhere does Force Fire mention human characters there. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 23:49, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
Again: "No HUMAN character is separated by Kanto / Johto / Hoenn, only for the sagas in which they appear if you doubt ask ForceFire".Hikaru Wazana (talk) 23:55, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
So I'm asking where exactly he said this. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 23:57, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
That's why I said, for you to ask him, but this is already a standard on all pages of characters with more than one saga.Hikaru Wazana (talk) 23:59, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
Oh, wait. Never mind. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 00:07, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Enter Pikachu!

Do you consider the Pikachu origin story of the episode to be flashback? I don’t, It doesn’t make sense to call it such. It would be like calling A Family That Battles Together and Cerulean Blues “flashbacks” because they aired after Get the Show on the Road! but partially take place before. I was hoping for at least some concurrence before going to remove it.--KnightGalarie (talk) 03:36, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

The big difference is that you're talking about the airing order for the latter example. That doesn't have any impact on how this wiki presents the anime chronology. If the plot of an individual episode like JN001 is clearly set before the main plot of the overall anime (Ash's journey), then I'd say it's a flashback. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 03:48, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
But where is the flashback? The present time in the narrative is the past. The story starts in the past--KnightGalarie (talk) 03:49, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
Then the story returns us to the present (EP001). GrammarFreak01 (talk) 03:52, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
Honestly, I would ask Playerking95 about it. They're the one who introduced the whole flashback idea in the first place, and everyone just went with it. But I'm inclined to say the episode's a flashback based on its placement in the anime chronology. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 03:55, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

JN022 synopsis

I wrote a synopsis for JN022 a few days ago. Have you taken a look at it yet? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 19:44, 23 May 2020 (UTC)