Talk:Core series

Routes

I'm not so sure that a Gen V game has to start its Route numbering system from 301 just because Hoenn and Sinnoh use a similar method. A Gen V or so game could actually link two previously known regions. There are still Routes 47-100 and Routes 135-200 still unaccounted for. ~$aturn¥oshi ^{THE VOICES} 15:19, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Indeed. Not only is there no precedent or fundamental reason to believe it will be the case, the contrary is more likely to occur. Hoenn and Sinnoh are based on Kyushu and Hokkaido, respectively, which are the only islands in Japan - other than Honshu - arguably big enough to be adapted as regions. By this I am suggesting that Generation V is more likely to revisit Honshu, of which there are plenty of as-yet unexplored territories. If that were to happen, the numbering system would no doubt pick up from Route 47, regardless of whether Kanto or Johto were included in the game.

Some might also argue that Shikoku, which is another Japanese island, is not too small to serve as the basis of a new region. Supposing that they had a point, the numbering system would still be likely to pick up either from Route 47 or Route 135, due to Shikoku's proximity to both Honshu (in particular the area encompassed in Johto) and Kyushu.

Those are really the only possibilities involving Japan, and the pattern does suggest that Generation V will be based there. It is important to remember that the transition to Hoenn and then to Sinnoh entailed exploring new territories far enough from previous regions. Now that both Hoenn and Sinnoh are familiar places, that can no longer be done within Japan. -Unown Lord 13:01, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

I think it's more to discourage people from being "LOL JOTOE IZ IN RUBBY N SAFIRE" and "LOL HOEN IZ IN DAIMIND N PERL". Though I do agree, they could go and hit whatever's north of Kanto and Johto next time around... the problem would be whether or not to link back to those two or not to. TTEchidna 19:08, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

They should just go ahead and create a 3-D console game like the Orre series and have all the known game regions present. At least the main series regions. ~$aturn¥oshi ^{THE VOICES} 19:19, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Pikachu

The article mentions Pikachu and Raichu being in Generation Five's regional dex, because it has been like that in all previous generations. What about the evolutionary lines of Geodude, Abra, Zubat (minus Crobat), Machop, Psyduck, and Goldeen? They've all been present in every game, so why not mention them too? --Nostalgia 17:55, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

I think only Pikachu is mentioned because it's the "mascot" of the series. It has more of a probability of being in the next game. Then again, Magikarp and Tentacool are also mentioned... ~$aturn¥oshi ^{THE VOICES} 18:20, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

If the next Generation of Pokémon games didn't have the Pikachu family in them I don't think anyone would buy them!- unsigned comment from Taromon777 (talk • contribs)

of course they would buy them. The Dark Fiddler - Nos hablamos? 18:29, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Eeveelutions?

Is it possible that 2 new eeveelutions will be introduced when you consider Gen II and IV both introduced 2 new eeveelutions each (Espeon & Umbreon and Leafeon and Glaceon)?BlueGasMask 01:25, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

what about Gen III? none. so, no. -- MAGNEDETH 01:27, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

If we see new ones in Gen V, I'd bet on a couple more in Gen VI, but until we have a pattern we ought not. TTEchidna 04:31, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

If the Eeveelutions "pattern" continued in Gen V, then we would either see no new Eeveelutions (Gen II added 2, Gen III added none, Gen IV added 2) or only a Dragon-type Eeveelution (as all of Eevee's current evolved forms are types that were considered "Special" prior to Gen IV; technically, however, this would break the pattern, as only 1 new "Special"-type would be introduced, rather than the usual 2). Hopefully they will begin to create Eeveelutions based off of the types that were previously "Physical"; I'd really like to see a Steel, Fighting, or Ghost-type Eeveelution (Bug...not so much). Diachronos 16:01, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

If they do invent new Eeveelutions I dread to think how unimaginative their names will be! There will probably be a Dragon-type one called Drageon or something. - unsigned comment from Taromon777 (talk • contribs)

How about Dracoleon? Draco IS greek for Dragon. -The REAL Dialga 15:23, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Generation V

Scince today there was the hinting of Generation V Pokémon, should a Generation V article be made to confirm the release of more to the story? ----digletdude

That's what I'm thinking. We might need to start one out. ~Toastypk - ^Loom. 21:30, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

I was about to say the same thing...I just realized it.--^☆Tavisource 03:32, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Maybe no now, we have to wait. K.J.Boring 05:09, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

We need an article for it, for sure, but there is no information whatsoever about it. At this point, all it'd be is speculation, which is rather pointless in the grand scheme of things. Either speculation or a couple of sentences about the picture.--Nostalgia 03:13, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Well, I for one, say that we wait untill this 'new' Pokémon actually makes its debut --Manga-in-a-bottle 03:19, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Or ,maybe just redirect? If that doesn't happen already, that is. The Dark Fiddler - Smarter than the average bear! 10:32, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Turns out to be pichu, guess we dont need a generation V article after all. ----digletdude

And I had it all prepared, too. TTEchidna 19:19, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

YAY, I LOVE PICHU MORE THEN EVER NOW, if they started introducing gen 5, it would seriously limit chacnes of GSDS.

SO PICHU WE LOVE YOU!! --Guardian of Earth |SGMS 2010

That was my main worry too! I was so relieved when I found out it was Pichu! Although, it seems strange that they'd block out this Pichu unless it was of importance. Perhaps its Ash's Pikachu's child! Gastlys mama 17:46, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

That would be brilliant. [s]And he could give it to me.[/s] And it could know Volt Tackle and then go with Ash's Pikachu to use Double Volt Tackle killing off Arceus.

But what I think it is, is remember Dialga controls time, so could end up taking Ash and gang to the past. So maybe its Ash's Pikachu as a Pichu. --Guardian of Earth |SGMS 2010

No, anime is Pokémon's biggest marketing tool and Pichu was a Gen II Pokémon. I have a funny feeling the GSDS is on the way. But those ear markings are odd, like its Pichu's other form . -- Clarky13 21:46, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Y cant our points both be correct. Its Ash's Pikachu as a Pichu, and they are using it to advertise GSDS. --Guardian of Earth |SGMS 2010

I guess so. Either way, its still very mysterious. -- Clarky13 23:51, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

There WILL be a next Generation of Pokemon. In a GameInformer issue they had an interveiw with one of the Diamond/Pearl creators and confirmed it.- LolBot, # 18:10:56 (UTC)

The system

In the article it states that the games of the new generation came out on the newest Nintendo handheld system. considering that the DSi is coming out soon, should this rapid the chances of Gen 5 coming out sooner, or delaying it waiting for the next, next handheld system like we waited for the DS Lite handheld? Ths proves that the new Gen did not came out on the next Handheld sytem-or did I read it wrong...Pyles 22:42, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Most people don't interpret the DSi as a new system, simply another upgrade to the DS. We don't even know if there'll be DSi-exclusive games yet; if so, they'd probably only be so for using the camera or something, not because they're too powerful for a vanilla DS. --Marton_{(I'm Jewish)}imos 22:44, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Like, they didn't create a new Pokémon game for the Game Boy SP, the games that came out after it(FrLg and Emerald) wer for the GBA. The same is going to go for the DS and the DSi. Kiryu 20:27, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Quality of this article

Isn't good. It isn't up to any standard of quality. It reads more like an editorial or some other kind of opinion piece than an encyclopedic one. Given that, what can we do to fix it? I think we can only really say that nothing has been announced, yet. -- evkl _{(need to talk?)} 05:55, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Stale Comment reply!: Right now, all it is is a list of things we know will happen or we think will happen. We might add a couple of pictures, but I can see how it would be hard to incorporate them. But with the latest news, it looks like we're not seeing Gen V games until mid-late 2010 in Japan, and early-mid 2011 everywhere else. However, by August of this year, we'll most likely have at least the Munchlax of Gen V and we can pretty much copy this article over to a rough Gen V page. Aura-Knight 17:12, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

(Very!) Random Trivia

I've noticed something very interesting about the introduction of new Generations. One or more Pokémon from the next Generation are always revealed in the movie that features the last Pokémon in the current Generation. This has happened three times, and could well happen again:

• Pokémon the First Movie - Features Mewtwo and Mew, the last Gen I Pokémon - Introduces Marill, Snubbull and Donphan
• Pokémon 4ever - Features Celebi, the last Gen II Pokémon - Introduces Wailmer and Azurill
• Destiny Deoxys - Features Deoxys, the last Gen III Pokémon - Introduces Munchlax

In the first two cases, those were not the first Pokémon of the new Gen to be revealed, and most of them were in Pikachu shorts, but it's still quite an interesting thing to note. If this pattern continues, then there could be one or more Gen V Pokémon in the twelfth movie (or its Pikachu short), as it features Arceus, the last Gen IV Pokémon. Is this worth mentioning in the article, or is it just useless trivia? Taromon777 20:33, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Probably not worth mentioning if they weren't the first, but that does seem to be good research. The Dark Fiddler - 10% Satisfaction Guaranteed! 20:35, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Worth it in my opinion, although most people already believe at least one will appear. Aura-Knight 20:55, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Location?

Heres something I noticed Kanto seems to be the centre with Johto to the west, Hoenn to the south and Sinnoh to the north. This suggests that gen 5 will be to the east of Kanto to me. Psycho Mick 23:32, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Take a look at the main picture of the article. There's nothing to the east of Kanto. This should belong on the forums anyway. ~ overgrown^sol 23:35, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Idea

I just noticed something that I don't think is there. My theory is, if there is a game set in generation five, they will have a trio and if they make a generation six then there will be the trio's master in those games. Just look here; Gen I: Birds, Gen II: Lugia, Gen III: Regis, Gen IV: Regigigas.

Does anyone agree with me? --KelsUsedSplash 01:16, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Good idea, I think that should be mentioned!--I'm Pokelova^(Talk) 01:18, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Two cases isn't a pattern. Note that the trios of Gen II and Gen IV had their masters introduced in the same generation. --FabuVinny ^{|Talk Page|} 15:42, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

So maybe that pattern will carry on!

I: Trio

II: Trio and two trio masters.

III: Trio

IV: Trio and two trio masters

V: Trio

VI: Trio and two trio masters

--I'm Pokelova^(Talk) 05:18, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

And if it does, we can say that after Gen VI comes out. But based on the data we have right now, we can't call it a pattern. --FabuVinny ^{|Talk Page|} 12:58, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Magnemite

If Magnemite's included, why not Rhyhorn?--Gou 17:26, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Generation 5 Spoiler?

I have no clue if this is correct so I wanted to run it by you guys. Here is the link for the place I found it.
http://tinyurl.com/r9hmlx
I promise you it isn't anything bad, I'm not that kind of person, nor that dumb. --Lustre 06:52, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Don't trust it it's full of bullshit. Something you may expect from the trolls at Y!A--☆Coolピカチュウ! 06:55, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Exactly. Girtoo thats funny. Anyways untill we get the proof , this will be spectaculation and so we cant put it here. --Prongs (Talk • Contributions) 06:58, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Alright guys thanks a bunch. I didn't think they would finish the pokemon games without giving Eevee all of the types evolutions. --Lustre 18:29, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Ah, the ol' "my [insert family member here] works on [insert game here] and told me exclusive information" BS. It's always 100% fake. Also, when we do get info from reliable sources, it would go on the relevant Gen V pages rather than here. --FabuVinny ^{|Talk Page|} 12:12, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Names

Does anyone wanna take guesses at what the names of the Gen V games will be called? Im thinking Pokemon Amethyst and Pokemon Jade. Still havent figured out what the 3rd of the generation could be.-The REAL Dialga 08:02, 31 May 2009 (UTC)