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Pokémon cries?

Should we add Pokémon cries to the Pokémon articles?--Starman125 20:18, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

It's been tried before, but it caused too many problems. It would still probably cause too much problems now.--Pokélova! 20:23, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

This has been discussed to death already. —♥ Jello^talk 20:24, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

We're going to try to get them put in as soon as possible. They've been sitting in a directory on the server for... jeez, at least a year. Last time we tried to put them in, the server exploded. Archaic's been wary of doing it since then. TTEchidna 20:35, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Just out of curiosity, what file format was used for the cries? That may have been the problem.--Starman125 20:54, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Over at de:, we have mp3 with the following syntax: {{#mp3:http://www.greenchu.de/nakigoe/025.mp3}}. I cannot figure out where that parser functions comes from, though.--Afrael ^talk 00:59, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

I think having the files like Floatzel.net have their music files could work well. We might even eventually be able to put route/town/cave music on the pages!--Pokélova! 04:09, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Oh would I love to do that. Too bad Nintendo would destroy us for doing so. TTEchidna 23:01, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Move Trivia

Should there be a trivia section for moves? For instance, only one Pokémon can learn Steel Wing by leveling up.--Chalkwriter 16:26, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

There are for some moves, but not all of them have any notable trivia to add, so there is no sub heading. If you think of notable trivia, then add the sub-heading and put it in. Thanks, Samjohn95 21:38, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Glitch Pokémon

Hi there. I remember when I was around nine, I used to play Pokémon Gold & Crystal, and I remember there was this cloning trick that could clone pokémon and the items that they held. Anyways, I began to notice if I did the right trick at a certain time, (or whatever it was, it has been a while) I managed to get a special type of Pokémon, the trainer. The trainer of course, had no moves and therefore could only struggle, but you could use TMs and everything. I remember having fun with that, but I can't find any info on this.- unsigned comment from Bublador (talk • contribs)

Try this page, all of the glitches are on [[1]] and please sign your comment when you use these talk pages. thank you --Daniel1993 19:55, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Pronunciation

I'm just thinking if on every Pokémon's page that we have their Pronunciation somewhere? like this:

Say: Sin-da-qwil

What do you think?--KayKay|Chat to me! 07:03, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

It's a good idea, but I believe we've had problems with adding pronunciations in the past because of people not agreeing on the "correct" pronunciation (also, sometimes there are conflicting pronunciations from different official sources) --ZestyCactus 07:06, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Oh oh then. I just though because some Pokémon I can't pronounce their names--KayKay|Chat to me! 07:21, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

If you have a look at the source of, say, Bulbasaur's page, you'll see this:

{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Bulbasaur |
pron=<sc>''bul''-buh-sore</sc> <ref>Barbo, Maria. ''The Official Pokémon Handbook''. 
Scholastic Publishing, 1999. ISBN 0-439-10397-5</ref> |
jname=フシギダネ |
tmname=Fushigidane |

the "pron=" parameter is not coded into the infobox, so it does appear. But it's there on every Pokemon's page. たかはりい 07:39, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Yes, it's coded in but because of the disagreements on pronunciation and no clear official source for many of them, it was decided to hide them all. If Nintendo or anyone ever releases an official pronunciation guide then we'll be able to put them back up. —darklordtrom 07:43, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Is whatever the pronunciation is in the English dub of the anime (and similarly the pronunciation in the Japanese dub for those not yet released over here) not enough to justify it? With the exception of the odd time where they've actually changed the pronunciation during it e.g. Regice... TheChrisD ^{Rants•Edits} 13:46, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Artwork?!

I hate to be the silly one who starts the "What's going on?!!" discussion, but seriously, why have all the pictures of the Generation I Pokémon been changed to the old Red and Green artwork? Is it for an aniversary or something? T a r o m o n 10:59, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Yes. Anniversary of RB was yesterday, so Gen I Pokémon got Gen I art. But due to the server cache it took some a while to switch over, and I believe they should all be starting to switch back now, but again, that'll be whenever the server cache gets updated. Werdnae (talk) 11:24, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Actually, maybe it could be put on a switch, like with Gastrodon's forms, so it could switch between old and new artwork periodically. How's that sound? - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talk • contribs) 13:49, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

That's exactly what it did. —darklordtrom 22:34, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Oh, so it's still in effect? As in, like, permanently? Because that was what I was suggesting. - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talk • contribs) 22:36, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Yes, next year and on certain other days the site will have easter egg effects. Yaaaay for surprises. —darklordtrom 20:32, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

I won't panic when the Gym Leader pictures are replaced by fan art then... T a r o m o n 11:53, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Is it the same currently with the Generation II Pokémon and their G/S artwork? Darthrai 19:16, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Yes. Werdnae (talk) 19:30, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

just a though...

i realise this is probably in the wrong place, but, as unlocking the generation IV nationaldex and requesting a trade on the GTS require only seeing a particular species of pokémon, would it make sense to include a section explaining where to see them. (and i am aware that the GTS has only around a week left). I know that people (granted they are few) have had problems viewing unown and riolu in DP for example.--Mr-connor 13:03, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

There is a section explaining where to see, and catch, Pokémon. It's right below the Pokédex Entries section.--Mtn otter I lie in wait...... 13:17, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

TYPHLOSION LV:50 KINDRA LV:50 ALAKAZAM LV:50 LUGIA LV:45 TYRANITAR LV:55 DRAGONITE LV:57

this is my current team for pokemon soulsilver...i think it has room for improvement. The a-team 21:14, 5 September 2010 (UTC)brandon strayhornThe a-team 21:14, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

This isn't the place to put this. Post it on the forums.--Cold (talk) 21:20, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Bulbagarden Archives

I have a problem that I keep sending the confirmation e-mail like every week but it doesn't show up. I'm saying it here because I haven't confirmed my e-mail on Archives. Someone please help me!!!!!!--KayKay|Chat to me! 10:26, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Have you checked it isn't getting caught by the spam filter on your email? Maybe check that the email address is right too? Werdnae (talk) 10:42, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Wardnae, I accidentally wrote the wrong email.--KayKay|Chat to me! 23:42, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Sizes on Pokémon pages..

Something that's been bugging me for a while. I've been manually going around and resizing the main art boxes at the top of each Pokémon page so they all match each other and look uniform. However, many times box sizes will still be off by a few pixels. Would there be anyway to code something that keeps them all the same size? [2] is an example of what Ii'm talking about. Basically, the box that surrounds the art.~★ cubicQUESTION 13:48, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Even if you make the width a certain size, the length will be different according to the size of the art. To get it uniform, you would have to make every file have some whitespace so it would be the same size. That won't happen though. The boxes don't really need to be uniform in size. _Blake ^Talk·Edits 20:23, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Litsen...

First of all, I have a idea of a section in the pokemon's main page. Footprint. It'll be good. also, the Pronunciation topic above^^. We can take Right pronunciation from Pokemon Wiki. I know its cheating, but, Ill help us. --Ash's Infernape 11:41, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

The footprint is already in each Pokémon's infobox. And, we already discussed that the pronunciation caused conflict, and the Pokémon Wiki is far from a reliable source. So we probably won't be adding the pronunciation to each's Pokémon's page. たかはりい 11:08, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

By the way I think you were trying to say Listen not Litsen?--KayKay|Chat to me! 11:09, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Well, Pronunciation is what admins can do when the wiki lets locked. also, wouldn't they need help adding 150 and more pokemon?--Ash's Infernape 11:41, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Pronunciation is conflicting. It isn't just hard work. For example, Bonsly was pronounced with an ē once, then with an ī in another time. One was in the movie, the other in the anime, I've just forgotten which. Turtwig's A-B-Cs (talk | contribs) 11:58, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Oh Really? We All Know That Charmander is pronounced Chaar-man-der. Easy Enough?? Just search on google for pokemon pronunciation.--Ash's Infernape 12:05, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, no Google searching, thanks. The official sources (Official Handbooks, Anime, and Video Games) don't always agree on pronunciations of Pokémon names. Now, if the official sources all agree at one point, then we will add them. But until then, they're not going on the species pages. - Kogoro | Talk to me - 12:16, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Okay Then. Moving to the next topic. What About Something at the Top of The Pokemon pics To Change the Picture into other generation art or to a Different form?--Ash's Infernape 12:25, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Most form changing Pokémon have their forms rotated based on the current time (see Arceus, then refresh the page). As for different generations, the infoboxes are set to display it on certain days—for example, on the anniversary of Red and Blue the Pokémon pages displayed their Red and Blue artwork (for those that have it). --SnorlaxMonster 12:44, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Doesn't look like the servers are being nice

No, I'm not geting 504s (or, if I am, FireFox is hiding them); I'm getting something even worse: pages not loading at all. A couple of days ago, I was going to come here to get a small amount of information, and it took ages to do so (so long in fact that I just got it O_O). I think the servers are being overstressed - despite the fact that I was getting good ping times off of 10 pings to the site's router (if there is one), I couldn't load any pages - not even robots.txt! That is just a simple text document, and it wouldn't even load! I would start the lockdown soon, as the closer to release we get, the more activity we are likely to get.

I consider myself lucky I could even get on right now. --TruePikachu 06:37, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

The fifth generation Pokemon are invading Bulbapedia and interfering with the system! I haven't actually noticed any problems yet though, which is strange. T a r o m o n 20:38, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Finally!

as i mentioned Form changing above, We can use A method for pokemon with 2 different forms like giratina and shellos

Method: All you guys saw Avatar, Everyone Saw. Now See The Avatar Wiki's Jake Sully Article. There is a button below the pic to change the Picture into Human/Avatar. We can use that Method.--Ash's Infernape 16:48, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

That's a really good idea actually, I think it would be better than the Pokemon's form just changing periodically. Perhaps now Bulbapedia is being upgraded for the fifth generation, it would be a convenient time for recoding the articles. T a r o m o n 20:36, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

I dunno. Shaymin is also two formes, and changes with time. Shellos and Giratina, by the way, are not random. It's based on the hours. And unfortunately, that just changes the infobox picture; there are several things that change for forme changers. Unless your Ground-type moves miss against Altered Forme Giratina. What's that? They don't? But you can only use Earthquake five times? TTEchidna 04:11, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Wikimon has a more extensive one that allows you to toggle the whole box, for example in the Agumon article, click the tabs. It even integrates the table of contents into it. Pretty clever. - MK (^t/_c) 04:57, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

see, only arceus has several things that needed to be changed. what about others?--Ash's Infernape 07:52, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

What about Mebukijika and Genesect (yes, Genesect has other formes (I think five or six?)) Zekasaur 10:53, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

I also support the toggle idea. By the way, it has been mentioned in Arbok's Pokédex entries that it has at least six different patterns, of which two have appeared in official game art. Maybe it would be worthwhile to also toggle these two the same way? --BlackySully 09:05, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

I say we just stick with actual forme changes, and not include design differences between canons. PDL 14:24, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Metric tags in Pokédex entries

All pokedex entries use the imperial units of measurement from the US translation. I suggest adding tags with the metric counterparts for two reasons:

1 - the original Japanese entries use metric units, so it could be seen as "more canon".

2 - there are international users of Bulbapedia (me included) that are not used to imperial units.

For example, the final sentence in Magneton's entry in Yellow could be: It raises the temperature by 3.6F degrees within 3,300 feet.

If the staff agrees, I'm willing to go through all Pokedex entries and add the metric values. I know enough Japanese to easily get the official values from the pokedex entries listed on the Japanese wiki, assuming those are correct.

--BlackySully 09:05, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Metric system seems like a pretty simple and straightforward thing to include, it's merely a big job to go through everything and add the metric equivalent. Perhaps starting small, with say the Pokémon infobox only for now, and work our way up (every infobox should list the Pokémon's height and weight, so it's the most prominent use of the imperial system). Pokédex entries are also pretty simple, but I'd also say they're the less important area to work on (no complaints if you want to fix them all yourself, however). -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 11:28, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Each Pokemon already have both their imperial and metric height and weight listed in their infobox, except for Generation 5, because their imperial values are not yet officially known. So pokedex entries are the most important area left to work on, as far as I can see. --BlackySully 13:37, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Unless someone else has a big complaint about it, I don't see why you can't go ahead and update those, in that case. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 14:47, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

I have done 101 out of 493 for now. I may have missed a few in scanning all those entries. --BlackySully 23:59, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Question?

The option to write in the discussion for the Pokemon Black and White Versions isn't there. Are we not aloud to write there? --Mew is the Original One 21:16, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, but only if you're autoconfirmed, meaning you've been registered for a certain amount of time and have made a certain number of edits.--Cold (talk) 21:22, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

OK thanks --Mew is the Original One 22:09, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

What is the amount of time and important edits? Zekasaur 10:49, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

3D Artwork

This is something that's been on my mind for a while now, but I couldn't bring it up due to the lockdown. Does anyone else think it would be a good idea to possibly include 3D images of Pokémon and Pokémon moves, like what's done for anime? It could be done in a seperate section or sub-section of the articles. Oh, and I don't mean updating every time a new 3D game comes out; I mean adding images for each time a move or Pokémon has appeared in a 3D game, like images of Pidgeot from its appearances in Pokémon Stadium through Pokémon Battle Revolution. I don't know if this has been brought up before, but is this notion a good idea?--Black Yin Zekrom 00:06, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Although i don't know much, but taking 3D Pics will be hard and i don't think its a very good idea.--Ash's Infernape 11:07, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Well, I don't quite know how it's done, but you don't take 3D pics by using a camera or something. The quality of the 3D images here prove that.--Black Yin Zekrom 15:25, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Lylat Wiki

Lylat Wiki is now a part of NIWA, Oct 8th and 15th two others will be added, so might wanna add that to your NIWA bar ;] Malake256 17:03, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Main page design

Does no one else think Tsutarja is missing? We have Bulbasaur, Treecko, Chikorita and Turtwig pics on the main page, but no Tsutarja (or victini if you want the first pokémon in the dex) I can feel it's absence when I look at the page. Kanjo 19:55, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

main page uses animated minisprites. we dont have Gen V animated minisprites. -- MAGNEDETH 19:56, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Yet. TTEchidna 20:09, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

I can Make Them Animate. but it wont we official, and Archives are currently blocked.--Ash's Infernape 20:33, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

I see. That's a little worrying because they're not animated on my screen. Kanjo 17:10, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

What browser are you running? --SnorlaxMonster 07:26, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

on chrome and IE they don't work, only firefox. Kanjo 12:44, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

I've heard that they also work on Opera. --SnorlaxMonster 06:04, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Actually,there is a Tsutarja animated sprite Bulbagarden Archives, but there's no space for it. However, a Victini sprite has also been uploaded. Jlin8002 00:00, 9 October 2010 (UTC)Jlin8002

Shiny Gen V Sprites

I would like to know where we are going to put the shiny sprites for the fifth generation Pokémon. I have the sprites (official). Zekasaur 10:47, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

We have them, however we have yet to upload them. I guess I could do them today. --Psy_ライダー☮ 11:28, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Translations

This is a big job, and would probably be a bad idea, but could we translate Bulbapedia into other languages? I know that we already have basic translations of Pokémon and Moves, but what about the rest of it?----Chalkwriter 18:08, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

May I direct your attention here ^Maverick_Nate 18:09, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Clearer distinction between "natural" and Dream World abilities.

I think the distinction between pokémon that only have certain abilities through the Pokémon Dream World and those that don't can be made clearer. For example, on pages of separate abilities there is just one table with normal and PDW pokémon all mixed up, while it would be easier to make separate tables for both. I think this would help both users that own Pokémon Black or White and those that don't. Besides that we could also make a category for "Abilities exclusive to Pokémon Dream World", like Harvest. --BlackySully 00:22, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

On the separate pages, they are specfically listed in a separate column that says "Dream World ability". That seems separate enough. ^Maverick_Nate 00:24, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Yes, but I think it would be easier if for example you are looking for a pokémon that has a certain ability, that you don't have to go through a list of which half of the pokémon are Dream World pokémon. Even for Dream World users like me pokémon in wild and in Dream World are two completely separate things. But yeah, it's not that necessary. --BlackySully 09:32, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Grammar error

Being the Grammar Nazi I am, I have spotted an error I can't fix. I accidentally got logged out while editing a userpage, and I noticed there is a lack of space between sentences on the message that explains that new users cannot edit userpages. This is really bothering me, so could anyone with the power to edit the MediaWiki namespace fix it? CuboneKing 02:13, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Done, I think. —darklordtrom 02:20, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Update on Message to the Editor

This should be updated, no? I think people would like to know it's been unlocked Malake256 02:51, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Very true, its more that a month old Ruberduck0123 07:00, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

It doesn't matter if it's five months old, he edits it when they have an announcement to make, he doesn't have to update it once a month people!! --Landfish7 13:46, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Bulbanews

I have a question : Can only staff members report news to bulbanews or can normal users also report --Vlade 15:45, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Bulbanews is a different wiki altogether. Though they're both part of Bulbagarden, both Bulbapedia and Bulbanews have their own front pages. The information you're looking for is on Bulbanews's front page and if you have any other questions about it, it'd make sense to ask on that talk page rather than this one. here's a link, for convenience Kanjo 20:26, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

What Kanjo said is correct, but to answer your question, anyone is allowed to report news to Bulbanews. After submission, an admin or columnist needs to move it out of the draft namespace and into the mainspace. --SnorlaxMonster 00:01, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Zoroark's Name

I think the Ark in its name could be cause it can transform into lots of pokemon like an ark of pokemon and the reason i posted it here cause i cant post it on Zoroark's article . --Vlade 16:12, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

First of all, if you can't post in an article, inquire in the article's talk page (i.e. Talk:Zoroark (Pokémon)), not Talk: Main Page. Secondly, that's a real stretch: that's not an actual definition of the word ark, it's just a vague metaphor. --Andy^P_K^M_N 21:07, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Before you ask

Read the news. TTEchidna 20:33, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Is it for the Japanese anime writer? If so, I suppose Chimecho is more appropriate than Lugia, considering how the little windchime links to places like Mt. Pyre and Sendoff Spring. It can be in greyscale if desired. Besides, what is more favourable aesthetically is that one may include Chingling too, instead of Lugia all over the place. Rxhar 09:46, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

It's Lugia because the man is credited with helping to create it. It was on the news post. Tamah 23:41, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Well, it was more than a week by now, someone could remember me who edits the main page? --EzekielMaple 16:14, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

What'd I do wrong here?

[[3]]

... What happened? SpecialK Leiks Lucario and the Celebi Glitch 12:46, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Just create a page with {{subst:welcome}}.----無限の知性 ◎ ＤＥＮＮＯＵ◆ＺＥＮＳＨＩ 13:08, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

EV Listings

I was just thinking of a very useful idea. On the pages for each route, cave, etc, where the wild Pokémon are listen, I was thinking we should add another column after each Pokémon and say "1 Speed," or "2 Attack," or something. That, paired with encounter and level rates would help a great deal in EV training for all different levels. - unsigned comment from Igglybuff63 (talk • contribs)

Well, I admit, this would be useful to some people, but this is an encyclopedia, not a walkthrough. Honestly, I don't see why you can't go to the Pokémon's page and check. I'm not for it, but I'm not exactly saying NO. --Si6x12 03:01, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

I agree completely, however, it would be a nice little touch on the page for convenience. I'm not one of them, but I know some people have incredibly slow computers, and I can easily imagine the frustration of those who have slow connections along with a desire to EV train. Igglybuff63 14:00, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

I'm thinking no, but I do see a use in it. Perhaps Project Walkthroughs would be a good place to ask. --SnorlaxMonster 14:07, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Putting every possible bit of information is dumb. TTEchidna 08:04, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

But that's not what we'd be doing now, is it? We wouldn't be putting their number, or Dex color, or Egg group, or anything like that, just the EV(s) they give. - unsigned comment from Igglybuff63 (talk • contribs)

The number should already be there. --SnorlaxMonster 12:50, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

No, I'm talking about on the route pages. - unsigned comment from Igglybuff63 (talk • contribs)

Don't make me go on a rant about users and clicking links. If you plan to EV train, then just look up the Pokémon that give EVs in whatever. We're an encyclopedia, not an EV training guide. Do some of your own research, dude. TTEchidna 09:15, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

This isn't at all a matter of laziness. Heck, I'd be willing to go around and do a ton of the work, assuming I could figure out how to code it (which I can't) It's just a nice touch of convenience for users, you know? I mean, I'm fine if we don't do it, it's just a suggestion, after all. Igglybuff63 04:39, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Redirection Pages

Do we really need those redirection pages with one Pokémon used by a character, the TCG link, and the Pokémon link? We already have the Pokémon used by a character and it's TCG links on the page. I understand the ones for like Pikachu, but ones like Mr. Mime and Gengar don't need to be there, do they? DarthMartian7 03:09, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

This is already being discussed on the forums, so please be patient. ~ solaris 03:13, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

And how soon do we delete {{p}}, which I'm sure you all want. TTEchidna 08:05, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

What to do with Dream World artwork.

Currently we use some to replace the Sugimori artwork, but what to do when said artwork is avaiable?. Sincerely i thing it would be a waste to just leave the DW artwork floating alone. Do you agree? We should do something with it. --EzekielMaple 18:06, 15 November 2010 (UTC) Sorry, forgot signature

It would be a waste. Also, how come we don't put up the old artwork on the Pokémon's page? It seems a waste not to include it on the page (especially when some trivia refers to it). Teshigigas [Talk] 18:29, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Old artwork is on the pages, they just change from time to time Ataro 18:36, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

not really, Ataro. we are going to find a use for the images, but as of late weve had other things to focus on. rest assured, it will be showcased somewhere and in some way. -- MAGNEDETH 23:01, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

/me keeps reading the "In the Games" sections of pages (hint). --TruePikachu 00:47, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Over at Zelda wikithey use a code of sorts that makes a picture change every time you refresh the page. It seemed to use a template called {{RandomLinkImage}} for this page. I think I've seen simeler on userpages. It varied page to page. --Pika3323 20:34, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Maybe each Pokemon's page can feature a gallery of their art from all games. Just a random thought. _Blake ^Talk·Edits 21:17, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Eventually. There's always an issue with doing that though. And that is how many damned exceptions there are. TTEchidna 09:13, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Um, doesn't each Pokémon page link to a gallery anyway? --Landfish7 21:00, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Em, we could show the artwork in the pages for "special" cases, like ivysaur. Ivysaur has purple colored eyes in the anime and Dream World--EzekielMaple 22:44, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Trading pre-Unova

Some pokemon such as Bulbasaur say that you have to "trade" to get the Pokémon when you actually have to get it through Pokéshift, Dream World, or both? When are we going to change this? —♫Zekasaur♫ 03:04, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

It will likely be changed as soon as someone enters that specific information into the tables. If I recall correctly, the template defaults to saying "trade" if no data is entered. --TruePikachu 04:58, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Preview

You know how it seems that everyone forgets to use the preview when they first come on? Well on NWiki, they have something that makes you show preview, and I was wondering if we could use that here. Gliscorguy54 01:30, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

I actually find that incredibly annoying on NWiki. If you are going around making minor edits, such as relinking, it just gets in the way. I'm pretty sure there is an option here to turn it on in preferences if you like it. --SnorlaxMonster 02:10, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

File:Ani586WMS.png not displaying

Could someone work on this? The file a:File:Ani586WMS.png isn't showing up on the main page. I checked the Archives and found that the filename is correct, but somehow or another it isn't working. Thanks. chiefboz (my talk and contributions) 15:44, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

There is nothing that can be done about this. It is just the archives not synchronizing with Bulbapedia. All we can do is wait for it to fix itself. --SnorlaxMonster 03:28, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Hopefully before Christmas...Ataro 03:33, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

It was actually displaying when MAGNEDETH added it. It fitted in nicely too... --SnorlaxMonster 04:29, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

It seems to be working now. chiefboz • talk 17:25, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Pokémon SIENNA??? Why do we have NOTHING on this? ^{See video}

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQqH2HV7p10&feature=watch_response

I had no idea there was such a thing as a Sienna version of this!! Please, add the article: Pokemon Sienna. Thanks! --Tanaka Shimoya 13:27, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Maybe on hack games. But it probably isn't notable enough. Take it up on the talk page there. --SnorlaxMonster 13:36, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

You couls add it to rom hacks- unsigned comment from Ent3r (talk • contribs)

No. That page does not and will not exist. The correct page is hack games. --SnorlaxMonster 04:57, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

On the record, we only add really famous hack games to the hack games article. I've never heard of this one personally, so it probably doesn't need to be mentioned. --ZestyCactus 06:06, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

"Pokemon Apokelypse"

Anyone seen this?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDX1m0Y2Vkg&feature=watch_response_rev

Looks like we don't have an article on it either. Why doesn't anyone create something about this? --Tanaka Shimoya 13:29, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

User:ShinyPikachu/Pokémon Apokélypse. --SnorlaxMonster 13:36, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

There shouldn't be a page because its fan made. If it were a real Pokémon movie, then there should be a page. Although, I have to admit, it is pretty awesome and would make a cool movie for older Pokémon fans. Gryffindor1991 23:33, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Bulbapedia:Project Fandom --SnorlaxMonster 14:00, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Did you know section: "...the typing of the first Unova Gym Leader is dependant..."

Shouldn't that read "dependent"? The spelling that currently appears on the Main Page isn't really accepted in American or British English. Ultraflame 19:07, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Fixed. —darklordtrom 22:19, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

A search bar?

Has Bulbapedia ever considered having a bar that would be used similar to the Google toolbar? It could have a place to search for an article on Bulbapedia, maybe even have a link to the home page, recent changes, bulbawiki forum, the archives, etc. This would mean easy access to not just the wiki, but so that people with the toolbar could get to a specific pafe faster as well! --Landfish7 22:16, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

You mean a Bulbapedia Toolbar for a browser? That's something to think about, I guess. Maybe a Firefox addon or something. —darklordtrom 22:19, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Yes. That's what I meant. I'm not sure if it is even possible but if it was it would be very useful for viewing and editing Bulbapedia. --Landfish7 03:34, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

I would recommend bringing this up on the BulbaWiki forum. --SnorlaxMonster 00:47, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

I thought there already was a search bar on the bulbagarden main page?

Yeah there's one on the main page but it's not accurate like google--Pika3323 22:03, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Try Bulbapedia Search Bar Plugin. Anyone know how to program? chiefboz • talk 04:45, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Countdown

Are we going to have a countdown for the NA release of Black and White? →ΑΧΧΟΝΝ_fire 01:54, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Why not. I think it's traditional to keep the Christmas garb up until January 5th, so we can change the colorscheme then. —darklordtrom 09:46, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Well can we change the color scheme now?--KayKay|Chat to me! 11:46, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Yep. We do it all the time. If look in the hidden code of Template:Main Page, you can see all the alternate ones. Try previewing them on a different page (you won't be able to preview them on Template:Main Page because it is protected). So now that it's the sixth, I guess someone needs to change the colorscheme (I think trom wanted to change to the BW one). --SnorlaxMonster 11:55, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Klink swap.

How in the world did everyone switch giaru with klink so FAST? If anyone thinks this is a funny comment I am a new user--Celibi25 01:46, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

Many users, and Special:WhatLinksHere/Giaru (Pokémon). --SnorlaxMonster 02:18, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

A. It was 3 whole days ago. B. Not many names were revealed. C. The names aren't linked in many places, so it is quick to change them. D. There are tons of people who are available 24/7 to change things as soon as possible. _Blake ^Talk·Edits 14:28, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

That would mean at LEAST one hundred users in each time zone! Just HOW many people do we have!--Celibi25 18:15, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Read last sentence of Template:Forums_notice. Bulbabot is an annoying awesome bot that is a tyrant friend to everyone in the world Bulbagarden. However, it gets major things done quickly. --TruePikachu 20:20, 5 February 2011 (UTC) (And Bulbabot, if you even TOUCH this post, I will kill you give you a cookie.)

Except that Bulbabot is not suitable for those kinds of edits. It can't select a portion of a string (i.e. it can't pick a "Giaru" out of the mittle of a template like "Giaru"). It was all done by human editors. And generally there are 50-100 pages that need changing, and with ctrl+F and copypaste a single user can easily do two or three a minute. Werdnae (talk) 04:01, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

What in the Nine Hells? Bulbabot can't do regular expressions? Then what can it do? Is it written in Visual Basic? —Minimiscience 04:15, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

TTE said that at one point. I don't remember where, or whether it was just that he didn't know how to set that himself. Bulbabot's programmer is Zhen Lin, who is currently away. As a result, Bulbabot can't currently be given new tasks. It will continue to perform the tasks it has been programmed to do. For the record, it is written in C#. Werdnae (talk) 04:36, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

WHAT HAPPENED?!?!

WHAT HAPPENED TO BULBAPEDIA?!?!?!--KayKay|Chat to me! 04:48, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Nevermind. It's all good now.--KayKay|Chat to me! 04:49, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

...What did happen? --~~☆Flyingtypefan☆~~ •Talk• Holiday cheer• 01:32, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

TCG Proposal

While looking at some cards from Undaunted, I came across Hariyama. So I clicked it, and the hue was WAY too bright. Could we adopt a darker color for Fighting type pokemon? TheTheDragon14 23:39, 3 January 2011 (UTC)TheTheDragon14

Specifically this card? Yes, I agree. It is a bit bright. I suggest you take this to Project TCG. --SnorlaxMonster 23:57, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Log Out

I was changing my signature recently and nearly every time I pressed save I got logged out! What's happening? —強力な河川! 08:42, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

I am being ignored. Someone help me! —強力な河川! 10:29, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

I believe the server is having some problems at the moment. See here for a little more information. --SnorlaxMonster 10:32, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Animated G5 Sprites...

Would it be possible to put in the full, animated versions of the sprites from Generation 5? Generation 2 and 3 sprites are animated... I was also wondering if this would just be too much trouble or would overload the server. You can find the sprites here. (good website, I think that they're all accurate. Whoever made it did an awesome job). Also, those sprites wouldn't have to be used, it's just the resource that I found. the files are .gif files... Thanks!!! Bapplesauce 02:51, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Some of the BW sprites are animated PNGs. We don't want to use GIFs for Generation IV and V sprites. You have to have Firefox in order to see the animation because some browsers don't support it. --ケンジのガール 02:57, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Oh, that's right- I always used to find some other animated images on here that wouldn't animate... Okay. Well, if anyone finds another way... or can get more animated PNGs... thanks. Bapplesauce 03:40, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Just so you know, you don't have to have Firefox; Opera works as well. However, I think those are the only major browsers that support APNG (IE and Chrome don't, I don't know about Safari). --SnorlaxMonster 12:52, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Redirect problem

O_O. Uh, were these supposed to redirect to SmashWiki? Interwiki table prob? --Havoc48 01:14, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

I saw that too! I was confused. →ΑΧΧΟΝΝ_fire 01:21, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Yes the were. It comes with the NIWA affiliation. Unfortunately I'm not sure if there's a way to "fix" these redirects so that they don't appear on that page. It's not a problem though. —♥ Jello^talk 01:25, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

They do work perfectly fine, but they just fill up that special page. It is a problem with the MediaWiki software. And for the record, only some redirect to SmashWiki; Mario goes to Mario Wiki, Kirby goes to WiKirby etc. --SnorlaxMonster 06:44, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Countdown

Don't know if anyone agrees with me but shouldn't the countdown be changed to the date of the European release considering it's the first English release of B+W?

Edit - Sorry forgot to sign --Daniel1993 21:21, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Yes, it should. And since it's been confirmed, it now does. Werdnae (talk) 21:29, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

I think it should be the north american one.Wasent it that way with platinum?KylleyFab4Fan 23:15, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

The European date is the closest thing we have to the English release, I don't know what's wrong with that. —♥ Jello^talk 23:18, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

To clarify what Jello said, the date we use for the countdown is the first official English release date. For Platinum it was the North American date, as the North American date was before the European date. For Black and White the European date is first, so we are counting down to that date. If, by some chance, the next main series game(s) is/are released in Australia and New Zealand first (I wish), then we will count down to that date instead. There will be no preference for one English-speaking location over another. Werdnae (talk) 01:48, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Would putting up multiple countdowns overload the server?--Celibi25 18:13, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

I don't think that's what Werdnae meant. I think he meant just changing the one countdown to reflect the first official English release date. --だにえる - 千九百九十三 20:52, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Ah, I get it now.--Celibi25 02:11, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I was actually meaning changing the existing one (even if only once it had expired). However the same applies for multiple countdowns. The bigger issue (bigger than the server load) is that if we are going to have more than one countdown, we must then include a countdown for every English release, since we aren't being biased towards any one region. So we would probably end up with five or six, rather than two, and that would be too many. Not server-load too many, although it could prove problematic, but too many space-wise on the main page. If you wish to put your own countdown on your userpage, I remember seeing a template for it floating around in someone's userspace.

The reason we are doing the first English release, rather than the American release, it that this is an Engligh-language site, rather than a specifically North American site. Although the servers are in the US, our webmaster, Archaic, lives in Australia. To make a special case for the North American release would appear as a great big insult to all our non-American users, since we've never done anything like that for the European release when it was second. Werdnae (talk) 02:27, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Not to mention the fact that this is the first time that the European release date is before the North American one.--Celibi25 02:02, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Pokemon of the Week

We most make a Pokemon of the Week column. Almost every site makes one. I`m sorry i didn`t sign. --Other help is what i can do. 16:56, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

First of all, I'm not sure that we need one. We already have the Featured Article, or at least SHOULD have (I think the countdown is supressing it). Additionally, Nazirbashir, make sure that your signature contains a link to your User page, like this: --TruePikachu 02:25, 22 January 2011 (UTC) (it's part of the policy)

just because other sites do something doesnt mean we should. i guess you could say our "Origin of Species" is similar to a PotW, only better. -- MAGNEDETH 05:36, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Where Origin of Species gone anyway? I havent seen one since Septemberish. Dark Lord 18:17, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

The author of the column is currently on hiatus. Werdnae (talk) 01:19, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Save page error

I just don't get this. Every once in a while when I try to save an edit, the website says "This page is restricted to the following" even though I am a user--Celibi25 02:16, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

It's probably a session loss error, causing it to behave as if you were logged out. If clicking back and trying again doesn't fix it, then logging out and then back in again should. The tech people are aware of the problem, but haven't yet been able to find what's causing it so they can fix it. Werdnae (talk) 02:27, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

It's not a big problem for me. I just wanted to see if anyone else had this issue.--Celibi25 02:04, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Logging me out?!

It keeps randomly logging me out! It's really annoying when, say, I've done an edit it won't let me save, but then sometimesI'm logged back in when I click on another page! What's going on? And before you ask, it's not my computer, it does it on the laptop as well. --Juzey (Talk) 11:58, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Sounds like a cookie problem to me. Also this isn't related to the Main Page, which is what this talk is for. It asks at the top for you to consider posting items unrelated to the Main Page, on the forum. You'd likely get a better response there anyway. Smashman 12:06, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

It's either a cookie problem or a session loss problem. The second is an issue that has been going on for a while, but the tech guys haven't been able to figure out what's causing it in order to fix it. If it happens again, click back and try again. It should go through after a few attempts. Werdnae (talk) 01:24, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, it's just really annoying! --Juzey!! (Talk) 13:03, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Did You Know Section

This hasn't been updated in months, it's pretty dead at this point. Does anyone have any good trivial facts for it? Igglybuff63 13:36, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

The trivia up at the moment seems alright to me, but maybe we could add more. --SnorlaxMonster 14:00, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Idea for Pronunciations

Listen, I have an idea about the pronunciations: You can list ALL of the pronunciations, and say where they're from! Sound good? magikarp123193 01:03, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Nope, we had this done before. It was shortly removed afterwards as there was many conflicts from various sources on how to pronounce it. --☆CoolPikachu! 01:12, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Erm... I think magikarp123193 means "list all of the conflicting pronunciations (anime, guides, etc.) for each species," unless you're trying to say that there are just way, way too many different pronunciations for, say, Glalie. —Minimiscience 01:44, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

I think it sounds like a good idea! --Juzey!! (Talk) 13:07, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Oh no, no damn way. I remember the last time that happened. Also, having all pronounciation is just tedious and stupid.--ForceFire 13:20, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Anonymous users

I read somewhere about a discussion on whether anonymous users should be allowed to edit (I think), and I have an idea. How about just letting them edit talk pages? They might have something interesting to say. --Juzey!! (Talk) 10:47, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

I think that if they have something important to say that they need to say desperately then they will make an account. There is too much room for vandalism amongst anonymous, unregulated users. I say it's a bad idea however it is approached.--だにえる - 千九百九十三 20:50, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

I suppose you do have a point.--Juzey!! (Talk) 11:26, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

La-dee-FLIPPIN dah...

You DO know Nintendo Power posted the rest of the english names, don't you? And that Serebii is using them! Don't believe me? Check it out yourself on Serebii.net. I will expect you guys to use these names from now on! - (User:Oricalu|Oricalu) - unsigned comment from Oricalu (talk • contribs)

Unfortunately, what you expect to happen is not something that will happen, as has been stated numerous times on the fifth generation Pokémon talk pages (Janovy rings a bell), it is not known where this list came from, and as a result is not a reliable source of information regardless of the correctness of the current information it contains. If the list did appear in Nintedo Power (which Serebii hasn't stated per your argument) I'd say the editorial board would then make another decision. Until such a time that the names are seen used in official sources (Nintendo themselves for example, which contained the most recent batch of English names) the pages won't be moved. As per what is the editorial boards decision. --Spriteit 00:29, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

What issue do you or Serebii have that this list comes from? I have the February issue and it only lists the ones we have moved. --P S Y_ライダー☮ 04:14, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Every name on that list so far has been true. Just sayin! - [User:Oricalu|Oricalu]- unsigned comment from Oricalu (talk • contribs)

Just because they have been right so far doesn't mean they are all right. We will wait for official conformation. Also, next time you post sign your post. --だにえる - 千九百九十三 16:53, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Once again, all the names revealed today were the SAME FLIPPIN NAMES on Serebii! Every last one I knew! New names aren't that fun when you know them, so let's just use the new list! I'm tellin ya, Serebii and the rest of the world are right! - Oricalu

Yeah, I'm with this guy. How many names have to be revealed before you all realize that the list can't possibly be fake? And don't say "all of them", either. I mean, Serebii updated with the names, that should be good enough for anybody. - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talk • contribs) 13:48, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Finally! Someone who agrees with me! - Oricalu

At least update Meloetta's Form Names; Voice form is "Aria Form" and Step form is "Pirouette Form" - Oricalu Oricalu 14:05, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Even though there is a list of all the names and it's been correct so far (and will probably be right about the other names), the remaining names on the list have not been confirmed officially by Nintendo, which means it's not officially canon yet. Remember, this is a wiki, not a fansite. Even though I don't think Serebii made a bad decision about trusting the list, but Serebii is not "official" and can take the risk of getting a few names wrong. - User:Togelover

Just because Serebii says they are real does not mean we will put him. He is not and will not be an "official" source because the names have been confirmed so far. Unless we get some type of non-fan site confirmation, we will post them. Until then you can wait. --☆CoolPikachu! 23:59, 7 February 2011 (UTC)