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This page is meant as a source of information about low-base stat total challenge runs.

Information that can be found here includes:

Which Pokémon are available to use, when they can be obtained, and the versions they appear in
Reccomended versions to play
Tips and strategies
More coming soon...

Pokémon that become available after first watching the credits roll are not listed. The sole exception to this is HeartGold and SoulSilver, which have the battle with Red atop Mt. Silver.

Ruleset

The maximum BST per Pokémon is generally 400, but in games where less than 6 unique Pokémon are available, the limit is adjusted to allow for a full party.

Non-fully evolved Pokémon (referred to as NFEs) are banned from the challenge starting in Generation V due to the held item Eviolite, which causes them to be much bulkier than other Pokémon with similar BSTs. In earlier Generations, the usage of NFEs is up to the the player. Some Pokémon, such as Kadabra, have proven to be extremely powerful despite their low BSTs. Others, such as starter Pokémon, are only available to be used in their first stage, making them an experience sink that will fall off in the mid-to-late game.

Other Pokémon that are typically banned from the challenge include Shedinja and Wishiwashi due to their Abilities Wonder Guard and Schooling, as well as Ditto and Smeargle due to their moves Transform and Sketch.

Mega Stones are banned, due to Mega Evolution increasing all applicable Pokémon's BSTs well above the maximum.

Certain near-universal TMs and Move Tutor moves are potentially banworthy due to allowing any Pokémon to simply rely on luck or the strength of the opponent. Note that this does apply to Pokémon which learn these moves naturally. They are as follows:

Additional rules, such as item restrictions and level caps (often seen in Nuzlockes), can be applied to this challenge as well. If items are allowed, Wobbuffet is banworthy due to HP-restoring items enabling it to counterattack repeatedly.

As with any challenge, it is also reccomended that the game be played in Set mode.

Generation I

The following BSTs are calculated on the modern scale by doubling the Special stat.

BST	Availability	Game(s)
348	1 Badge	R	G	B	Y
350	0 Badges	R	G	B	Y
370	2 Badges	R	G	B	Y
370	2 Badges^JB 3 Badges^RG	R	G	B	Y
375	2 Badges	R	G	B	Y
375	2 Badges	R	G	B	Y
385	0 Badges	R	G	B	Y
385	2 Badges	R	G	B	Y
393	0 Badges	R	G	B	Y
395	2 Badges	R	G	B	Y
400	1 Badge	R	G	B	Y

The reccomended game for this set is Green (English Blue). The reasoning is as follows:

Beedrill and Lickitung are available
Porygon only costs 6,500 Coins, as opposed to 9,999^R^Y/8,300^JB
Caterpie is more common in the wild than in Red, and can be found at a higher level
- Butterfree's Confusion is more useful against Brock than Beedrill's Poison Sting

Tips and strategies:

Lickitung is the only available Pokémon capable of learning Surf
In Mt. Moon, pick up TM12 (Water Gun) on 1F
On Route 24, pick up TM45 (Thunder Wave)
On the S.S. Anne, pick up TM08 (Body Slam) on 1F
Purchase a Fresh Water and give it to the girl on the Celadon Department Store roof to recieve TM13 (Ice Beam)
- If using Onix, purchase and give her a Soda Pop to recieve TM48 (Rock Slide)
In the Rocket Hideout, pick up TM10 (Double-Edge) on B3F
In Saffron City, speak to Mr. Psychic to recieve TM29 (Psychic)
In Silph Co., pick up TM26 (Earthquake) on 10F
- If using Lickitung, pick up TM03 (Swords Dance) on 7F
In the Pokémon Mansion, pick up TM14 (Blizzard) on B1F
Lorelei is difficult, but can be brought down by a combination of a Thunderbolt user, Hitmonlee or Hitmonchan, and Butterfree's Mega Drain
Bruno is completely swept by Butterfree's Psychic-type attacks, plus Mega Drain for both Onix
Agatha can be also defeated by Butterfree's Psychic-type attacks, as well as Marowak's Bonemerang
Lance folds to a BoltBeam user and Onix's Rock Slide

For convenience, these are the NFEs that are over the maximum BST:

Ivysaur (405)
Gloom (405)
Ponyta (410)
Dragonair (420)
Weepinbell (430)
Kadabra (450)
Haunter (465)

Generation II

BST	Availability	Game(s)
330	7 Badges	G	S	C
336	0 Badges	G	S	C
352	3 Badges	G	S	C
360	2 Badges	G	S	C
380	3 Badges	G	S	C
385	0 Badges^G^C 2 Badges^S	G	S	C
385	0 Badges^S^C 2 Badges^G	G	S	C
385	7 Badges	G	S	C
390	0 Badges	G	S	C
390	0 Badges	G	S	C
390	2 Badges	G	S	C

The reccomended game for this set is Crystal. The reasoning is as follows:

The most Pokémon are available
Both Caterpie and Weedle are available early

Tips and strategies:

An HM slave is required to use Waterfall
Begin the game on a Thursday to recieve a Hard Stone from Arthur on Route 36
Catch an Unown with Rock-type Hidden Power, and use it with the aforementioned Hard Stone to defeat Falkner
On Friday, speak to Frieda on Route 32 to recieve a Poison Barb
Teach Ledyba/Ledian ThunderPunch and Ice Punch via TMs purchased at the Goldenrod Department Store
If planning on using Corsola, pick up TM04 (Rollout) on Route 35
In the National Park, speak to the Teacher to recieve a Quick Claw, and also pick up TM28 (Dig)
On Sunday, obtain TM27 (Return) from a woman on 5F of the Goldenrod Department Store, as well as a Magnet from Sunny on Route 37
Morty's Pokémon (except Gengar) can only damage Aipom with Curse or a move copied with Mimic
At the Lake of Rage, speak to the man in the northwestern house to recieve TM10 (Hidden Power)
After clearing out Team Rocket's Hideout, speak to the guard in the gate on Route 43 to recieve TM36 (Sludge Bomb)
After defeating Team Rocket at the Goldenrod Radio Tower, speak to DJ Mary on 4F to recieve a Pink Bow
Will's Pokémon can easily be defeated by Ledian, with the exception of his Jynx
Most of Koga's Pokémon are weak to Butterfree's Psybeam, but Crobat's Wing Attack will quickly take it out
Bruno's Pokémon are also defeated by Butterfree, but Machamp's Rock Slide will OHKO if it hits
Karen's Gengar can only damage Aipom and Lickitung with Curse
Give Ledian a PRZCureBerry to hold when fighting Lance to heal from his Dragonite's Thunder Wave

Generation III

Hoenn-based games

BST	Availability	Game(s)
330	5 Badges	R	S	E
360	2 Badges	R	S	E
375	2 Badges	R	S	E
380	5 Badges	R	S	E
380	0 Badges	R	S	E
380	1 Badge	R	S	E
380	1 Badge^R 7 Badges^E	R	S	E
385	0 Badges	R	S	E
385	0 Badges	R	S	E
400	1 Badge	R	S	E
400	1 Badge	R	S	E
400	1 Badge	R	S	E

The reccomended game for this set is Ruby. The reasoning is as follows:

Mawile is available, and earlier than in Emerald
- Intimidate is extremely useful, outweighing Sableye's excellent typing
Tate and Liza are near-insurmountable in Emerald due to their Claydol's Earthquake
Team Magma serves as a greater challenge than Team Aqua

Colosseum

The maximum BST for this game is 405.

Pokémon	BST
	330
	360
	390
	390
	390
	405
	405

Kanto-based games

The maximum BST for these games is 405.

BST	Availability	Game(s)
352	2 Badges	FR	LG
385	0 Badges	FR	LG
385	0 Badges	FR	LG
385	2 Badges	FR	LG
405	1 Badge	FR	LG
405	2 Badges	FR	LG

The reccomended game for this set is FireRed. The reasoning is as follows:

Lickitung can be obtained by trading a Golduck rather than a Slowbro
- Psyduck requires less grinding/Rare Candies to evolve than Slowpoke
Caterpie is more common in the wild
- Butterfree's Confusion is more useful against Brock than Beedrill's Poison Sting

XD: Gale of Darkness

Pokémon	BST
	352
	375
	380
	380
	380
	385
	385
	385
	390
	390
	400

Generation IV

Sinnoh-based games

Although the maximum BST for these games is 411, Azumarill and Medicham are not listed due to their Abilities, Huge Power and Pure Power, which effectively make their BSTs 509 and 519, respectively.

BST	Availability	Game(s)
336	2 Badges^DP 3 Badges^Pt	D	P	Pt
384	0 Badges	D	P	Pt
385	0 Badges^Pt 1 Badge^DP	D	P	Pt
385	0 Badges^Pt 1 Badge^DP	D	P	Pt
405	1 Badge	D	P	Pt
410	2 Badges^P 4 Badges^Pt	D	P	Pt
410	0 Badges	D	P	Pt
411	2 Badges	D	P	Pt

The reccomended game for this set is Platinum. The reasoning is as follows:

Wurmple is available earlier
Kricketot learns Bug Bite

Johto-based games

BST	Availability	Game(s)
330	7 Badges	HG	SS
336	0 Badges	HG	SS
352	3 Badges	HG	SS
380	3 Badges	HG	SS
385	0 Badges^HG 2 Badges^SS	HG	SS
385	0 Badges^SS 2 Badges^HG	HG	SS
390	0 Badges	HG	SS
390	0 Badges	HG	SS

After entering the Hall of Fame

BST	Availability	Game(s)
330	8 Badges	HG	SS	Pokéwalker
360	8 Badges	HG	SS	Pokéwalker
380	8 Badges	HG	SS	Pokéwalker
380	8 Badges	HG	SS	Pokéwalker
380	8 Badges	HG	SS	Pokéwalker
384	8 Badges	HG	SS	Pokéwalker
385	8 Badges	HG	SS	Pokéwalker
385	8 Badges	HG	SS	Pokéwalker
400	8 Badges	HG	SS	Pokéwalker
400	8 Badges	HG	SS	Pokéwalker

The reccomended game for this set is HeartGold. The reasoning is as follows:

Ariados is available
- While Ledian can potentially abuse Baton Pass, Ariados has access to Night Shade and priority moves
Caterpie is available earlier
- Butterfree's Confusion is helpful against Proton, Bugsy, and Silver in Azalea Town

Generation V

Black and White

The maximum BST for these games is 461.

BST	Availability	Game(s)
420	0 Badges	B	W
425	1 Badge	B	W
428	3 Badges	B	W
445	1 Badge	B	W
446	0 Badge	B	W
460	4 Badges	B	W
461	3 Badges	B	W

The reccomended game for this set is Black. The reasoning is as follows:

The Basculin obtained from the in-game trade in Driftveil City has Reckless rather than Rock Head
- Since Basculin has low defenses, avoiding recoil damage is less useful than the boost in power Take Down and Double-Edge recieve

Black 2 and White 2

Although the maximum BST for these games is 420, Azumarill is not listed due to its Ability, Huge Power, which effectively makes its BST 510.

BST	Availability	Game(s)
330	7 Badges	B2	W2
380	7 Badges	B2	W2
380	2 Badges	B2	W2
413	2 Badges	B2	W2
415	1 Badge	B2	W2
420	4 Badges	B2	W2
420	0 Badges	B2	W2

The reccomended game for this set is White 2. The reasoning is as follows:

More Pokémon are available
A Flame Orb can be found in Reversal Mountain rather than a Toxic Orb
- Guts Raticate prefers this item, since burn deals less damage over time than bad poison

Generation VI

Kalos-based games

BST	Availability	Game(s)
330	6 Badges	X	Y
330	1 Badge	X	Y
352	0 Badges	X	Y
360	8 Badges	X	Y
380	5 Badges	X	Y
380	1 Badge	X	Y
380	2 Badges	X	Y
380	1 Badge	X	Y
390	1 Badge	X	Y
390	7 Badges	X	Y
395	0 Badges	X	Y
395	0 Badges	X	Y
400	1 Badge	X	Y
400	1 Badge	X	Y

Hoenn-based games

BST	Availability	Game(s)
320	2 Badges	OR	AS
330	7 Badges	OR	AS
330	6 Badges	OR	AS
336	7 Badges	OR	AS
360	3 Badges	OR	AS
380	6 Badges	OR	AS
380	0 Badges	OR	AS
380	2 Badges	OR	AS
380	2 Badges	OR	AS
384	7 Badges	OR	AS
385	0 Badges	OR	AS
395	7 Badges	OR	AS
395	0 Badges	OR	AS
400	2 Badges	OR	AS
400	2 Badges	OR	AS

The reccomended game for this set is Omega Ruby. The reasoning is as follows:

Mawile is available
- Intimidate is more useful than Sableye's typing
Team Magma serves as a greater challenge than Team Aqua

Generation VII

Alola-based games

BST	Availability	Game(s)
320	1 Stamp, 1 Trial	S	M	US	UM
330	0 Stamps, 1 Trial	S	M	US	UM
330	1 Stamp, 2 Trials	S	M	US	UM
360	1 Stamp, 1 Trial	S	M	US	UM
380	1 Stamp, 1 Trial	S	M	US	UM
380	1 Stamp, 1 Trial	S	M	US	UM
390	0 Stamps, 0 Trials	S	M	US	UM
395	0 Stamps, 0 Trials	S	M	US	UM
395	1 Stamp, 1 Trial	S	M	US	UM
400	0 Stamps, 0 Trials	S	M	US	UM

The reccomended game for this set is a tie between Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon. The reasoning is as follows:

More Pokémon are available than in Sun and Moon
In Ultra Sun, Totem Gumshoos serves as a greater challenge than Totem Alolan Raticate
In Ultra Moon, Sina serves as a greater challenge than Dexio in Heahea City
In Ultra Moon, Lana serves as a greater challenge than Mallow during Mina's trial

Kanto-based games

The maximum BST for these games is 405.

BST	Availability	Game(s)
377	2 Badges	P	E
385	2 Badges	P	E
395	0 Badges	P	E
395	0 Badges	P	E
395	2 Badges	P	E
405	1 Badge	P	E

The reccomended game for this set is Let's Go, Pikachu! The reasoning is as follows:

Caterpie is more common in the wild
- Butterfree's Poison Powder is more consistent against Brock than Beedrill's Poison Sting
Trace's Jolteon serves as a greater challenge than his Raichu

Generation VIII

Galar-based games

Although the maximum BST for these games is 410, Medicham is not listed due to its Ability, Pure Power, which effectively makes its BST 519.

BST	Availability	Game(s)
290	0 Badges	Sw*	Sh*	IoA	CT
320	0 Badges	Sw*	Sh*	IoA	CT
325	0 Badges	Sw*	Sh*	IoA	CT
330	0 Badges	Sw	Sh	IoA	CT
377	0 Badges	Sw	Sh	IoA*	CT
380	5 Badges	Sw	Sh	IoA	CT*
380	2 Badges	Sw	Sh	IoA	CT*
395	0 Badges	Sw	Sh	IoA	CT
405	1 Badge	Sw	Sh	IoA	CT
405	2 Badges	Sw	Sh	IoA	CT
410	0 Badges	Sw	Sh	IoA	CT
410	2 Badges	Sw	Sh	IoA*	CT
410	0 Badges	Sw	Sh	IoA	CT