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Legendary groups

(Attempt to prove the mess of legendary groups can be organised properly. wip.)

Most legendary Pokémon are part of a group.

There are groups in which members share an equal amount of similarities (no member sticks out or has exclusive features, unless they all do with the same impact **) and there is usually an additional special member, which sometimes takes a master/guardian like role, and is in some way related to the group.

Groups share a combination of many of the following traits ("+"-always the case):

+specific method of encounter*

+released in same generation

+next to each other in pokedex order*

+same stat total

+secondary type, if any

+similar learnsets (same levels, shared minor moves, comparable moves, especially STAB)

+shared mythological background or origin story, if any

-most cases even having exact same individual stat numbers in varying order

-similarly working ability

-similar design basis

-main type

The additional members might share several of the above traits with their group, but always have some clearly superior traits or exclusive features. Some masters might be part of a group of their own league.

*There can be a few deviations in the case of version mascots (because of later releases of the third version) such as small dex-gaps and the final appearance being kept secret.

**An exception is Suicune, who starred as the version mascot of Crystal due to lack of fitting candidates.

Legendary Trios

Most famous kind of legendary group, with 3 equally similar and equally contrasting members. These are the first legendaries to appear in each generation and have 580 total base stats

Legendary trios				Related
Articuno  Ice   Flying	Zapdos  Electric   Flying	Moltres  Fire   Flying		Lugia  Psychic   Flying
Legendary birds				Guardian
Raikou  Electric	Entei  Fire	Suicune  Water		Ho-oh  Fire   Flying
Legendary beasts				Guardian
Regirock  Rock	Regice  Ice	Registeel  Steel		Regigigas  Normal
Legendary golems				Master
Cobalion  Steel   Fighting	Terrakion  Rock   Fighting	Virizion  Grass   Fighting		Keldeo  Water   Fighting
Legendary Musketeers				Apprentice

Generation IV was the "ultimate" generation, hence why instead of the usual trio, the version mascots themselves were a proper trio, meeting most requirements and of course having 680 total stats instead of just 580. These were accompanied by a sub-trio of all Psychic-type legendaries relevant to their plot, with matching colours. The traits of each Lake guardian (what they represent/method of obtaining/distribution of stats) seem to be based on the trios of the preceeding three generations (Birds - Azelf, Beasts - Mesprit, Golems - Uxie)

Giratina underwent a change with the release of its Platinum version, gaining a forme with altered stats, look, and ability.

Ultimate trio
Dialga  Steel   Dragon	Palkia  Water   Dragon	Giratina  Ghost   Dragon		Arceus  Normal
Creation trio
Uxie  Psychic	Mesprit  Psychic	Azelf  Psychic
Lake guardians

Legendary duos

There are duos of rather minor importance, with 580/600 total base stats.

Minor legendary duos
Latias  Dragon   Psychic	Latios  Dragon   Psychic
Eon duo
Cresselia  Psychic	Darkrai  Dark
Lunar duo
Tornadus  Flying	Thundurus  electric   Flying		Landorus  ground   Flying
Kami duo			Master

And Version mascot duos, with the higher 670/680 total base stats.

Version mascot duos
Lugia  Psychic   Flying	Ho-oh  Fire   Flying
Tower duo
Kyogre  Water	Groudon  Ground		Rayquaza  Dragon   Flying
Weather duo			Master
Reshiram  Dragon   Fire	Zekrom  Dragon   Electric		Kyurem  Dragon   Ice
Energy duo			Energyless

There also exist imbalanced duos, each consisting of a parent and a child. The first represents creation of life through artificial means (cloning), with the result being a stronger creature. while the second represents creation of life through natural means (breeding), with the result being a weaker version of the original. In both cases, the original actually appears after the child in the pokedex.

Birth duos
Mew  Psychic		Mewtwo  Psychic
Mew duo
Manaphy  Water		Phione  Water
Sea fairy duo

Additional group members

Some legendary Pokémon are extra members of a lesser legendary group. For several of them, enabling an encounter requires the player to have obtained its complete group. They can be superior, with a master-like role, a fourth hidden member, or even a weaker counterpart to members of a legendary group. They were covered above, but this time the emphasis is on them.

Legendary Birds			Legendary Beasts			Legendary Golems			Legendary Musketeers
Lugia  Psychic   Flying			Ho-oh  Fire   Flying			Regigigas  Normal			Keldeo  Water   Fighting
Articuno  Ice   Flying	Zapdos  Electric   Flying	Moltres  Fire   Flying	Raikou  Electric	Entei  Fire	Suicune  Water	Regirock  Rock	Regice  Ice	Registeel  Steel	Cobalion  Steel   Fighting	Terrakion  Rock   Fighting	Virizion  Grass   Fighting

Creation trio
Arceus  Normal
Dialga  Steel   Dragon	Palkia  Water   Dragon	Giratina  Ghost   Dragon
Azelf  Psychic	Mesprit  Psychic	Uxie  Psychic

Weather duo		Energy duo		Kami duo
Rayquaza  Dragon   Flying		Kyurem  Dragon   Ice		Landorus  Ground   Flying
Kyogre  Water	Groudon  Ground	Reshiram  Dragon   Fire	Zekrom  Dragon   Electric	Tornadus  Flying	Thundurus  Electric   Flying

Event Fairies

Most generations introduced a standalone fairy-like event-Pokémon, with every base stats being 100. Note that Mew and Manaphy completely fit into this category, but are much more importantly additionally related to another pokemon each.

Event fairies
Mew  Psychic	Celebi  Psychic   Grass	Jirachi  Steel   Psychic	Manaphy  Water	Shaymin  Grass	Victini  Psychic   Fire

Standalone legendaries

Everyone except for 4 legendaries have been covered above. These 4 are similar to the ones in the minor Duos, powerful unique pokemon with interesting backstories/origins except they don't have a counterpart. They are hidden/extra legendaries towards the end of the dex (all event-pokemon or in the case of Heatran, not in a regional pokedex).

Extra legendaries
Deoxys  Psychic	Heatran  Fire   Steel	Meloetta  Normal   Psychic	Genesect  Bug   Steel

Main legendary trio type analysis.

This relates to the true legendary trios, of which we get one each generation (except for the ultimate generation: IV, where there was a mascot trio and a full psy sub-trio instead.). Meaning the first groups on the list above.

Most of the time, people don't give it much thought, and think that the first 2 trios were following a "traditional trio" type, but then went to random on from golems. However. After a serious look, you can notice something interesting. First you have to realise that there was a change from genI to genII, just like any other generation. It went from

 Ice  Electric  Fire 

to

 Electric  Fire  Water 

Meaning? They always change 1 or 2 of the types, so it doesn't repeat and stays fresh for as long as 10 generations. For now they seem to reuse each type until it appears twice.

So the third trio (golems) made another use of the Ice type that was exchanged for Water in the second one.

 Rock  Ice  Steel 

But in this situation, they now had the same thing as in generation I, Ice to replace with something fresh, and 2 that can be repeated.

 Steel  Rock  Grass 

One could speculate on future trio types from this, but the only thing that seems completely certain, is that the Water type will be used a second time, and the other 2 will both be fresh. Although with 7 types being used already, 2 have been used for secondary types (Flying, Fighting) and Normal being obviously out of question, it actually narrows it down to 7:  Ground  Poison  Psychic  Bug  Dragon  Ghost  Dark  Several of these could easily be used for more secondary types on trios though.

Ground seems the most "elemental" out of these, so its chances are above average.

Curious about whether they can really pull off a few more working trios with types like these, or if they will start from scratch soon.

Eeveelution moveset improvement

This is only part of my fakemon project, cause I love bulbapedias tables :E

My personal improvements of eeveelution learnsets, including a hypothetical wind element based final evolution.

	Eevee  Normal	Vaporeon  Water	Jolteon  Electric	Flareon  Fire	Espeon  Psychic	Umbreon  Dark	Leafeon  Grass	Glaceon  Ice	Galeon  Flying
HP	55	130	65	65	65	95	65	65	95
Atk	55	65	65	130	65	65	110	60	65
Def	50	60	60	60	60	110	130	110	60
SpA	45	110	110	95	130	60	60	130	65
SpD	65	95	95	110	95	130	65	95	130
Spd	55	65	130	65	110	65	95	65	110
1		Deluge*	Electro Ball	Scorch*	Power Swap	Guard Swap	Magical Leaf	Ice Shard	Whirlwind
1	Tail Whip
	Tackle*
	Helping Hand
7	Sand-Attack
13	Growl	Water Gun	ThunderShock	Ember	Confusion	Pursuit	Razor Leaf	Icy Wind	Gust
19	Quick Attack*
25	Bite	Bite	Double Kick	Bite	Swift	Confuse Ray	GrassWhistle	Bite	Twister
31	Baton Pass	Aurora Beam	Pin Missile	Fire Spin	Psybeam	Faint Attack	U-turn	Cold Switch*	Ominous Wind
37	Take Down	Aqua Ring	Thunder Fang	Fire Fang	Future Sight	Assurance	Giga Drain	Ice Fang	Air Slash
43	Last Resort*
49	Trump Card	Haze	Thunder Wave	Smog	Psych Up	Mean Look	Counter	Mirror Coat	Mist
55		Muddy Water	Discharge	Lava Plume	Mind Wave*	Shadow Sweep*	Synthesis	Snowstorm*	Razor Wind*
61		Acid Armor	Agility	Work Up	Gnosis*	Curse	Swords Dance	Barrier	Calm Mind
67		Aqua Tail	Overcharge*	Anger Fume*	Psychic	Vicious Ram*	Leaf Blade	Blizzard	Hurricane
73		Hydro Pump	Thunder	Fire Blast	Morning Sun	Moonlight	Sunny Day	Hail	Cyclone
Moves in bold are STAB. Moves in italics do no damage.

Legendary Monsters

Lv.	Gaiairas  Ground  Dark	Venemiras  Poison  Dark	Malumiras  Ice  Dark
HP	96	96	96
Atk	95	95	125
Def	75	125	95
SpA	95	95	75
SpD	125	75	95
Spd	94	94	94
Start	Scary Face
	Memento
8	Crunch
15	Mud Shot	Venoshock	Ice Shard
22	Stealth Rock	Toxic Spikes	Spikes
29	Thunder Fang	Poison Fang	Ice Fang
36	Shadow Ball	Shadow Claw
43	Bulldoze	Cross Poison	Icicle Crash
50	Nasty Plot	Swords Dance	Swords Dance
57	Dragon Pulse	Dragon Claw	Dragon Tail
64	Earthquake	Sludge Wave	Sucker Punch
71	Vicious Ram
78	Earth Power	Gunk Shot	Snow Impact
85	Hyper Beam	Giga Impact	Hyper Beam
			Giga Impact
Moves in bold are STAB. Moves in italics do no damage.

Light Duo

Lv.	Akalibur  Ice  Flying	Yumra  Dark  Flying
HP	114	114
Atk	144	90
Def	90	144
SpA	132	132
SpD	96	104
Spd	104	96
Start	Whirlwind
	Weather Ball
	Aurora Beam	Dark Beam
7	Gust
15	Flash Cannon	Shadow Ball
21	Power Wave
29	Hail	Starry Night
35	Ice Beam	Dark Pulse
43	Brave Bird	Outrage
49	LusterIcicle	ShootingStar
57	[[Ancient{ower (move)|Ancient{ower]]
63	Safeguard
71	Recover
77	Psyshock
85	Blizzard	Hurricane
91	Dragon Dance	Cosmic Power
99	Sky Attack
Moves in bold are STAB. Moves in italics do no damage.

Environment Legends

Lv.	Ambezia  Grass  Steel	Magnean  Electric  Ground	Ametox  Poison  Rock	Azurigin  Water  Rock
HP	110	90	110	110
Atk	100	150	140	90
Def	150	100	90	140
SpA	110	120	150	100
SpD	120	110	100	150
Spd	90	110	100	100
Start	Mega Drain	Spark	Acid Spray	Water Gun
	Iron Bash	Mud Shot	Smack Down
10	Swagger	Flatter	Gastro Acid	Aqua Ring
15	Leech Field	Spikes	Toxic Spikes	Whirlpool
20			Stealth Rock
25	Petal Dance	Overcharge	Sludge Wave	Muddy Water
30	Synthesis	Slack Off	Recover
40	Metal Burst	Earth Power	Stalactite
45	AncientPower*
55	Grass Knot	Electro Ball	Clear Smog	Mist
65	Iron Defense	Swords Dance	Cosmic Power
70	Shrapnel	Fissure	Nuke	Sheer Cold
75			Rock Wrecker
80	Leaf Storm	Thunder	Gunk Shot	Hydro Pump
85	Comet	Crater	Asteroid
90			Trick Room
95	Wonder Room	Guard Swap	Magic Room
Moves in bold are STAB. Moves in italics do no damage.

Hoenn 2.0

Lv.	Kyogre  Water	Groudon  Ground	A  Rock	B  Ice	Rayquaza  Dragon  Flying
HP	100	100	100	100	105
Atk	100	150	80	120	150
Def	90	140	170	130	90
SpA	150	100	120	80	150
SpD	140	90	130	170	90
Spd	90	90	70	70	95
Start	Water Pulse	Mud Shot	Rock Tomb	Icy Wind	Twister
5	Scary Face
15	Body Slam	Lava Plume	Wild Charge	Frost Breath	Crunch
20	Muddy Water	Hammer Arm	Earth Power	Poison Tail	Hyper Voice
30	Aqua Ring	Rest
35	Ice Beam	Earthquake	Power Gem	Iron Tail	Air Slash
45	AncientPower
50	Water Spout	Eruption	1	2	Outrage
60	Calm Mind	Bulk Up	Iron Defense	Amnesia	Dragon Dance
65	Aqua Tail	Earth Power	Stone Edge	Icicle Crash	Fly
75	Sheer Cold	Fissure		Sheer Cold	ExtremeSpeed
80	Double-Edge	SolarBeam	Megahorn	Superpower	Hyper Beam
90	Hydro Pump	Fire Blast	Thunder	Blizzard	Dragon Pulse
Ability	Drizzle	Drought	Sandstream	Snow Warning	Air Lock
Moves in bold are STAB. Moves in italics do no damage.

Elemental Spirits

Lv.	Soilerd  Ghost  Rock	Fluiquid  Ghost  Water	Aerogaos  Ghost  Flying	Pyrolasmos  Ghost  Fire   Ghost  Electric
HP	115	115	115	115
Atk	95	80	80	80
Def	140	85	85	85
SpA	80	95	80	150/140
SpD	85	140	85	85
Spd	70	70	140	110/120
Start	Night Shade
	Rock Tomb	BubbleBeam	Air Cutter	ThunderShock
11	Ominous Wind
16	Mud Sport	Soak	Mist	Charge
26	Glare	Hypnosis	Poison Gas	Will-O-Wisp
				Thunder Wave
31	Hex
41	Rock Slide	Muddy Water	Air Slash	Spark Shower
46	Shadow Ball
56	Sandstorm	Rain Dance	Cyclone	Sunny Day
				Starry Night
61	Stone Edge	Aqua Tail	Drill Peck	Anger Fume
				Overcharge
71	Phantom Beam
76	Head Smash	Water Spout	Brave Bird	Overheat
				Thunder
Moves in bold are STAB. Moves in italics do no damage.

random stuff

Normal 100% Fire 81% Electric 85% Ice 73% Grass 82% Ground 52% Water 92% Fighting 54% Psychic 64% Flying 1% Poison 46% Dark 64% Bug 95% Rock 70% Ghost 70% Dragon 69% Steel 47%