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Previous discussions

So featured articles...

Well, our current one's been up for more than a week, so I'm wondering...

Ought we get a new one (aka, oh... Ash?) out there?
Should we have some sort of regular schedule to the featuring?
Will you guys ever nominate and vote on them quickly enough to feature them weekly? Monthly? Bi-monthly? How often?
And if not... well, when should we go back to the normal MftE? TTEchidna 04:51, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

I think if it's simple enough to nominate articles, then we could see more use from this. I had to dig a bit through the links to find the other nominations... would a simple "Nominate an article" link next to the "read more" and "more featured articles" links be a good idea, perhaps? We could have an article with not only a list of nominations, but some simple instructions for how to nominate. Make it more accessible. We've got plenty of articles to nominate, not enough people looking for them.

At this rate, a once-a-month nomination might work out nicely. With more activity, I'd say nominating faster then that would be nice. I personally think having featured articles is a fun thing, MftE makes for a good news feed, but that's about it. Featured articles give the front page more... appeal. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 08:35, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

I completely agree. Monthly featuring would work great, and it makes the main page look much better. And if on one of the months we don't have a new one, we can use Poké Ball or Legendary Pokémon, since they never made it to the main page, right? And there are already many good nominees. --electAbuzzzz ^(TALK) 08:57, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

So we choose the next on the 21st? TTEchidna 23:44, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

We can choose the next one whenever, I'd say. Then start up a cycle starting there. It's not a big deal if Brock gets featured for a little longer or shorter then the other featured articles we'll inevitably have. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 06:08, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Or, either just wait until one comes again, and base a cycle on that time, or leave it up for a month, then take it down, and post a new one whenever a new one comes. Thein inen 18:50, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

So, ummm... It's been a month. New article, anyone?...? --electAbuzzzz 19:38, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Hopefully the admins will get around to it when the buzz about Platinum dies down. Granted, in a perfect world there would be at least a couple assigned to all of the normal admin tasks, but ah well. --TMF ^{Let's Go Mets - Stats} 22:44, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Move updating

We shouldn't count Struggle, Super Glitch, Secret Power (it doesn't need the template) and Vacuum-Cut as moves, so should we subtract 4 from that? However, we SHOULD count Wide Slash as a move, because in MD it's a TM. TorchicBlaziken 16:02, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

There are 467 moves minus Super Glitch, Vacuum-Cut, and Wide Slash. I went by the in-game DP number. Secret Power and Struggle... well, yeah. TTEchidna 19:00, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

The ads...

I don't like the way they work. The ads-well, just look at them! They make this site seem less trustable, and especially since it's like "REGISTER OR BE FORCED TO LOOK AT WEIRD ADS!!!!" I like that I don't have to look at them, now I'm a member, but I don't think that this site should be sponsored by cleavage revelations. TorchicBlaziken ^(talk) 23:14, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I was looking at my own talk without being logged on, and I had to keep above the ad at the bottom so my mom wouldn't see it. Thein inen 01:37, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

You can report those sorts of ads on the forums... TTEchidna 06:52, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Featuring

Why has the featured article been about Brock all the time? - Hazardous FIRE! 05:51, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Because it never changed; this is the first one. We're not going to be changing them every day like Wikipedia is...I think the consensus is change it every month?--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 05:53, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

The discussion's a few sections up on this page, and yep, seems to be about once-a-month. We don't really have a need to feature an article every day, besides, we'd run out of articles too quick if we did that. And featuring for a longer time gives the articles more "airtime". -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 16:02, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

RRRRGH!!!

Those new sprite tables are all wrong! Every time you click "show", the evolution chart sticks itself smack in the middle of it! NOT GOOD! I'm Missingno. Master, and I approve this message. 01:38, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Works perfectly fine for me. Mind giving a link to a page it doesn't work on, and listing what browser you use? Different browsers handle some codes differently, and it would be in our best interest to make sure Bulbapedia works on most of them. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 06:15, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Me as well. I know you've got an affinity for glitches, but IE... TTEchidna 06:56, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Me too, I've noticed some pages work while some don't--Wowy 07:18, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

It works fine for me, but somebody else is having a problem. 23-03-33 made a post here, along with a screencap what exactly it's doing. --Martonimos_{((Argh|Blargh))} 23:26, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Grammar...

Umm...it's in the "Did You Know" is supposed to be its...I'm not sure how to edit that section, but in the future, can people check the grammar just in case? ht14 12:44, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Serebii

Serebii.net has like bucket-fulls of new info about the rotom formes and other stuff, shouldnt this be added to the main page? --Hey1031 20:09, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Platinum is out?

I thought that it was coming out on the 13th. But a bunch of videos are appearing on Youtube right now. Just look at them all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4kPiOdfY7Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGVCgkQt6W0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mL0Oz7HBE70

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU --Posted by Deadlymethane at 00:41, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, Apparently people are saying that internet celebs get it first to review it, but I really dont know what to believe any more, but in any case, some people out there have it now as I type this. --Hey1031 00:44, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

It's just a leaked ROM. This happened back when DP came out in English too, remember?--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 04:53, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

How is that possible? You can clearly see that the videos are from DSs. Baby G (talk to me) (see my edits) 02:35, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

I just got ricl rolled by the last video XD--DCM_((Talk_{Contributions))}

It is either a leaked ROM, or one of the copys that some shops sold early. -Rabla 22:26, 13 September 2008

Pokemon Platinum Sprites

I found where all (almost) of the Pokemon Platinum sprites are. They are here: http://sfc.pokemon-inside.net/platinum.php [b]Evil Sonic....[/b] 02:29, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Some of them look fake to me. --ケンジの ガール 02:40, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Yea like Chancey and Blissey--☆Coolピカチュウ! 02:48, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

No, those are them all right. Zhen sent me them and they are exactly those (minus the glitchy ones, which someone screwed up). TTEchidna 03:06, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Roselia's face looks weird. --ケンジの ガール 23:09, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

If I have nightmares tonight, I know who to blame. What did they do to Raichu! they ruined my favorite Pokemon! NOOOOOOOO! --Mooites ^{Talk to me, baby!} 23:19, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Bring back Crystal.

As long as we're talking about sprites, I'm still not sure about the files we should be uploading. Are we going to animate everything, nothing, Platinum only, or what? --Martonimos_{((Argh|Blargh))} 23:48, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

My Pokemon Ranch and Platinum

It's been revealed on the Pokemon Ranch Japanese site that a Pokemon Platinum compatibility update will be available by the end of the year. Those that have the game already will be able to download the update for free when it's available.--☆Coolピカチュウ! 03:20, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Thank goodness. TTEchidna 03:40, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Yup know i don't have to buy Wii Points.--☆Coolピカチュウ! 03:41, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

IMPORTANT s' v s's posessive update

Go here [1]--Kuki Talk 14:55, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

That's a celebrity blog. Blogs are prone to grammar errors, just as much as a wiki is. This blog can't be used as evidence in this debate. If you thought a celebrity blog could get us off our stance of keeping them at "James's", you're dead wrong.

The articles stay at the names they currently have. If we've rejected certain schoolbooks, there's no way we'd fall prey to a blog. --Shiningpikablu252 15:13, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

I thought this issue was already discussed. Besides, if we did change, do you realize how much of a massive undertaking that would be? We not only would have to alter all articles belonging to James, we'd have to fix up some templates (like {{op}}) and go through every article trying to determine if it's correct. --PAK Man ^Talk 15:22, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Excellent point. And in my opinion it's such a minute detail to have such a debate over it. Gli gar 21:43, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Look, we know that s' is considered the proper. The problem is that it would mess up all the templates we have. Such as {{TP|James|Mime Jr.}}. The template won't work correctly if it's James' Mime Jr. instead. So will you stop bringing this up already? It's impossible to have it this way. We are not doing it to piss users off. --ケンジの ガール 21:49, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Actually, no, the s' would be wrong. You put the apostrophe after the s only if it's a plural noun. If James was the plural form of Jame, then it would be appropriate, but since he's one guy, it's James's. --Martonimos_{((Argh|Blargh))} 22:05, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Everyone has disagreements on pluralizing singulars ending with "S". The only agreement seems to be Jesus and Moses use "s' " for whatever reason.--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 22:08, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Cross was s'--Kuki Talk 22:19, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

The s' is not the proper way, no more than not beginning a sentence with and. TTEchidna 22:21, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Kuki, some random blog using "s' " doesn't make it correct. Go bring us a document on the proper use of English to support your argument.--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 22:28, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Technically sayin James' and James's means the same thing Dion24 23:38, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

...that's not the point.--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 23:45, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Problem with Platinum-move-standardizing

Big problem: Say someone standardizes half of the learnsets in a move and forgets about it. It is put under Platinum standard and no one will know the other half is done. What do we do, manually check every move article? Gli gar 21:40, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

It's up to the person editing to remember to complete it later. If they don't, we'll find it eventually, just like we do all mistakes in the articles, and can take care of it then. --Martonimos_{((Argh|Blargh))} 21:49, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

A surefire way to find articles with half-converted learnsets is to use this special page. The long-since deleted template that the page is checking for is embedded in old code from the old format, so any article that shows up on that special page has unconverted learnset sections. (I've already gone through and removed the aforementioned old code from all of the pages that have been fully converted.) --TMF ^{Let's Go Mets - Stats} 22:28, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Featured Article

I'm surprised this Wiki doesn't have a featured article. Shouldn't there be one? --☆X-Knight☆511♂ 05:44, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

There was a few days ago. Now there isn't. There will be again, as soon as the admins get around to it. Once the rush of edits with the Platinum release wears down, I'd guess. --Martonimos_{((Argh|Blargh))} 06:26, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

I see. Thank you for teh info. --☆X-Knight☆511♂ 06:31, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Can't create new page...

I want to create a page for Rui Quintas and Peter Michael, our (Portugal) two James, but the way I use to create pages don't work... I have two ways: one is searching for the page, and then click on the button that says to begin that certain page. Another way I use is when the name of the page I want to create is red in another page, so I click on it and then I create the page... However, this time, I can't create the page. Even if I put [[]] around their names, it redirects to the list of international voice actors. See for yourselves - Rui Quintas. And the same thing if I search. Is there any other way to create pages? Or can you please resolve this little unwanted redirect, please?Portuguese Old Man 18:53, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Just go to the top of the voice actors' page and you will see the blue link. Click on it and edit it. Jm a th 19:00, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

It was already decided that these people are not notable enough for their own pages. That is why they are redirects. Not even all f the English voice actors are notable enough, so why shouldn't the international voice actors be the same? ^Moldy _Orange 19:06, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Ok, thanks^^Portuguese Old Man 19:14, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Userspace?

I did some searching, but I can't find anything on it. That said:

Is there a policy outlining what can and can't be done with the userspace? Seems that I can't redirect it to my talk page, how about using it as a reminder list for myself or just blanking the damn thing? -- BCJ 04:44, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Blanking it ought to be OK (it's your page, after all). You can also slap a {{delete}} tag on there and let an admin get rid of it altogether. I'd recommend customizing your signature in such a case so it links to your user talk page. --((Marton imos)) 04:46, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Works for me, thanks. -- BCJ 05:03, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

just want to throw in that i DON'T suggest deleting user pages, as it gives users the dreaded "red label" (user pages not written) and i have a tendency to scan those person's edits. -- MAG NE DETH 05:08, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

What? Really? Why? I mean, plenty of people around here just don't have userpages. One of our sysops, for example. --((Marton imos)) 07:34, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Personally, I don't think it's a problem to redirect to your own user talk page from your user page; it was just one time (that I know of) that the situation popped up, and the only reason anyone could think not to do it was because "nobody else does that". It's fairly normal on most other wikis, if someone doesn't actually have - or want - a userpage, but doesn't like a red link. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 15:17, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

That's what I was thinking, but someone reverted my redirect saying that 'it should be like that'. -- BCJ(talk) 21:17, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

It's something that has never been cleared up; there's no current rule about it yet, so it may or may not be reverted depending on who sees it. I think perhaps it's time we made a simple userpage policy; we could fit just common-sense things on it (don't edit it too much, don't insult people, etc), and at least have something to point to when we do need to edit people's userpages. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 19:36, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

And if you don't want the "dreaded red link," as you put it, just change your sig to be a different color (if you don't know and can't find color codes, see my talk for a couple of links and sigs for the setup), or simply put a generic greeting or contact info (i.e. e-mail, AIM, etc.) and it will be normal blue. Thein inen 02:06, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

# of moves remaining

It's actually 36 + one userpage, to be exact. This is inaccurate because moves outside the DPPt 467 have been updated as well, such as Shadow moves or glitch moves. Gli gar 00:44, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

They've been counted. TTEchidna 17:30, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Actually, it says 467, which only includes the DPPt ones on List of moves. Even then, this page would like to have a word with you. Various unstarted and unfinished ones on here. Gli gar 20:11, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Woo, we're almost there. 2 almost-finished moves and 2 unstarted moves. Gli gar I am not removing this lengthy addition to my signature until all moves have been updated to Platinum standard. 15:14, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

how come it says minus 3 now?

Ultamatecharizard 16:23, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Because if you put one of the templates used to update it automatically categorizes it, which affects the countdown. In truth, there's really only one move left. Gli gar I am not removing this lengthy addition to my signature until all moves have been updated to Platinum standard. 16:59, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Platinum complete! Gli gar 18:16, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Sweet. The "Message from the Editor" section of the Main Page should be updated to reflect this. --TMF ^{Let's Go Mets - Stats} 07:11, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Other pictures/Adds?

Subject A.) Okay, I was thinking, should we get pictures of 3D appearances and Ranch (normal and Shiny)?

Subject B.) Alright, when I'm on my Wii, I find adds, and some of them are absolutely offensive. I get some saying "how dumb are you? take our test to find out!" We absolutely need to remove these. All adds.Nintendofan146B 19:40, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Nuh uh. It's the other way around: Unless you have some other way to pay for the server costs, the ads have to stay. You can report offensive ads on the forums but I don't think dumbness tests qualify for that. --FabuVinny ^{|Talk Page|} 19:43, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

But still... some are a bit offensive.Nintendofan146B 23:37, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

And like Fabu-Vinny mentioned, you can report those on the forums; there's a thread for just that purpose. Particularly offensive ads can be blacklisted, so they won't show up again. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 00:50, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

you could also just sign in, and they all go away. can you sign in on a Wii? -- MAG NE DETH 02:18, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

I've signed into things like Youtube on my Wii, so I think you can sign onto bulbapedia on it. --Hey1031 13:32, 28 September 2008 (UTC) I probably could, but on Mariowiki, which has the same set-up, makes it extremespeedly slow.Nintendofan146B 00:12, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Subject A: Probably not. We do not have 3D pictures for Colosseum and XD (even though they're already on the German PokéWiki, nor do we have 3D pictures for Battle Revolution. It would be a good thing to add 3D sprites for all 4 games if PokéWiki were competition to add sprites like such, but we're only competing against it with the select few German-speaking and English-speaking Pokémon fans. Gligar 18:21, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

On the subject of sprites, we're still missing (in Generation IV) few shiny Diamonds, a few Platinums, and most of the shiny Platinums. Generation III really needs sprites, as ones such as Lunatone have only Emerald. Generation II is pretty much done, save for some Crystal, and Gen I is finished. Oh, and a non-animated Manaphy Egg Minisprite is all I can think of. Gligar 18:21, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

If images weren't disabled, the project of adding these images in an easy-to-follow 80x80 format would be much easier. Gligar 18:21, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Due to the failure of a computer I'm right now I can't link to it, but the PokémonElite2000 Sprite Resourse has every sprite (I don't actually know about Platinums) including Shinies and Male/Female forms. Since it's a 'resource,' we are perfectly alowed to use them... LordArceus 02:13, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

User Profile Things

On user profile pages a lot of people have those icons that say like "this user plays this game" "this user's favorite pokemon is" and all sorts of things. Where do we get these!?

--KantoLegend 04:03, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

here. --electAbuzzzz 07:12, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

TR

I've seen many episode guides with "TR" instead of "Team Rocket". Don't you think it would be better if we had "Team Rocket" instead of "TR" in the episode guides? Portuguese Old Man 13:09, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Of course. Change it if it's there. TTEchidna 18:16, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Name changes

Is there a way to change your user name?

----HoennMaster 21:49, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Ask TTE later--RexRacer -talk 21:50, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Message from the Editor

Under this, "Read more" and "Past messages" both link to the exact same thing. Just sayin'. --ニョロトノ 666 02:55, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Easy-To-Use and Correct 'é'

I'll venture a guess that plenty of people already know this, but the character code - this works on any text document - for 'é' is 130. So, hold Alt (if you have an Alt) and type a 1, a 3, and 0 then release Alt. Ta-dah! LordArceus 02:17, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

And if you're currently editing Bulbapedia, it's even easier. Just click on the é in the character palette. --FabuVinny ^{|Talk Page|} 20:31, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

In my case, it's also Alt + 0233, which is still just as easy. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 21:40, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

In my case, I just hit Alt Gr + e. UK Keyboard layout. I can also scream POKÉMON! as a result, by holding shift. Alt Gr is just Alt+Ctrl on one key.. so Alt+Ctrl+e = é as well. Gywall^(Talk) 21:44, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

And 2178 works as well...K P F 21:44, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Is there?

Is there a tag for Democrats? as in {{User Democrat}}--DCM_{((Nag at Me!}_Edits))

I don't believe so, I think it is just a Liberal tag. --Hoenn Master 00:57, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Remember, guys. This page is for discussing Bulbapedia's MAIN PAGE only. Not general discussion about the wiki. --ニョロトノ 666 01:00, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

I know, I'm just responding, it's not like anyone else wouldn't afterall. --Hoenn Master 01:02, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Featured Articles

Umm...I just looked at the page, and we had 2 accepted a couple of days ago, why aren't they on the main page? Thein inen 16:03, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Did you know...

...that the "Did you know" section of the Main Page hasn't been changed in over a month? SharK ing 23:31, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

255

I'm far too lazy to do so myslef, but does anyone want to make an article about the various ways '255' was the highest number (value, really) that the old games could deal with? LordArceus 00:21, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

This one goes out to all you Senior & Veteran members out there

Perhaps we should focus more on User Relations. In the last 30 contributions, we swooped in on a BRAND NEW USER, warned him five times on a policy he is not familar on, deleted his pages before allowing him time to save them elsewhere, and while im currently typing this, im sure someone is attacking him right now. Perhaps we should be more welcoming to the new users and contributors, whom Im sure have good things to add to the site just as much as the rest of us--DCM_{((Nag at Me!}_Edits))

maybe that new user should read the welcome message and MoS before they make such a number of poor edits and abuse the userspace. this way, we wont need to yell at them. -- MAG NE DETH 01:44, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

And understand it all? Right--DCM_{((Nag at Me!}_Edits))

I don't know if you want my 2 cents, but I agree with DCM. Often, new contributors need time to get used to the laws of the 'Pedia. I should know-- a few months ago, I made a number of errors. SharKing Talk 01:55, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

and thats fine. users make mistakes, and we certainly dont expect new users to be top contributors right away, but it is stressed that new users should read the Manual of Style before making any edits. -- MAG NE DETH 02:04, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

I completely agree with DCM. Perhaps some of you guys ought to get off your high horses, jump wikis and read a fundamental Wikipedia policy. I guarantee it'll make this 'pedia a much nicer place to work. -- THE TROM 09:03, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Rule 33: Lurk moar. Always the rule. Internet users just need to start getting it like the rest of us. However, jumping on a noob isn't the best thing...

Either way, the reason why we made the welcome was so that we didn't have to jump on people whose first stop wasn't the MOS. TTEchidna 09:17, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

How many n00bs are going to stop and read a wall of text? For that is essentially what it is. Wouldn't it be better to make more concise welcome message, with links to pages that extend on the policies? Glinn Mgraw 09:20, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps something like this? -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 09:26, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Yes. Glinn Mgraw 09:37, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Bulbapedia is not for n00bs. That's MY opinion on this. --Maxim 09:31, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps you've forgotten exactly what this is a wiki on? You're going to get many n00bs. And most of them, if not driven away, do become good members. Glinn Mgraw 09:37, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Uncyclopedia isn't funny. However yes we need to rework the welcoming wall of text. TTEchidna 09:35, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

I think so far, my record is that every wiki I've started off on the wrong foot with = I'm an admin there. Unfortunately, I knew what I was doing by the time I got to Wikipedia, so no adminship there. Boo.

But yes, just because someone makes a few (or a lot of) mistakes early on, doesn't mean they couldn't become good editors.

@TTE: no u. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 10:43, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

(←outdent) I still find it kind of scary that despite all of your "use the link templates" and "do it our way" 'policies' you guys have, there is nothing about being nice to other users. I have even seen a (new?) user's talk page containing a warning about warning a "veteran" about (I think) too many mainspace edits. The response from the third-party user (ie not the "n00b" or "veteran") was "he's been around for a while and stacked up a ****-load of edits, let him do what he wants". Seriously, are there two sets of rule books here? Coz I'd like a copy of the second one! But I highly doubt I'll get that. Anyway, you "seniors and veterans" need to start to consider the fact that Bulbapedia is not just a place with infinite amounts of Pokemon (I mean, Pokémon) info; it's a community where people hang out. We would like to be respected, and offering this respect to new users and old users alike will definitely result in situations like this being avoided, as well as the example I gave above, and much more that I'm sure we've all seen. Reading WP:CIVIL, WP:BITE and WP:COOL would be obvious places to start. For templating, perhaps consider examining Template:welcomeg for ideas on layout. -- THE TROM 05:43, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Just a note on the first example, Guardian is beyond the "newbie" status for a while now, that discussion got heated for it's points, not because any one user was older then another.

But yes, some policy on "being nice", be it written or unwritten, could be a good idea at this point. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 06:06, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure the community is more over on BMGf than here. ;-)

Plus, this isn't Wikipedia. We're not going to go out and become exactly like Wikipedia, except with information on Pokémon instead.

And thirdly, people should really use their common sense, if they indeed have it.

@JD, I doubt that an unwritten rule would do all that much, as people can't exactly read something not written. A policy on "being nice" being written down would get there. Glinn Mgraw 09:18, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Where does this sound familiar from?

I like to think that I've done some good work on this wiki--work that I wouldn't have done if everyone jumped on my throat the first few mistakes I made. By the way, when I went to the TFwiki and brought up an idea, they all hated it--but they didn't hate me for it. Partly, it was because I was accepting of their verdict, but partly because they seem to know better than to bite the newbies. We were all "n00bs" once, and we kind of have to accept new ideas if we expect ourselves to continue to grow and evolve. --((Marton imos)) 09:20, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Being nice and assuming good faith should generally come with experience, but yes, having it in writing would probably be a necessity. I'm a big supporter of a certain MetaWiki policy, which is used on multiple wikis simply for it's short, to-the-point message. And it's got a cool name. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 09:25, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

GlinnMcGraw - I'm not trying to turn this into Wikipedia, just pointing out some ideas to look at for developing our own policies. And BMGf and BP have different communities - I don't do the forums, and I'm sure there are forum people that don't do BP. Also, most of the users of this website are children (based on the nature of our content). A lot of the time, this age group lacks common sense, therefore we need something concrete. Finally, Jioruji_Derako - I love DBAD! -- THE TROM 10:05, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Nor did I say you were, I was simply saying that they are not one.

On common sense, I did say if they had it. ;-)

New question though, what should the "be nice" policy be based on? DBAD? Start from scratch? Glinn Mgraw 10:36, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't think the DBAD policy would be the best idea here, simply for the wording. But there are a lot of other options to either borrow from, or start from scratch. Assume Good Faith is one policy that spans many wikis, and would work here as well. That's just an example, we could just write up something of our own too (it probably would be about the same, though). -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 13:45, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Well, yes, not DBAD to a word, that much is obvious, just something to base the policy on, such as AGF, would be good. Glinn Mgraw 13:55, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

I made a draft policy. BP:AGF. Read and review (here or on the sub's talk page). -- THE TROM 05:23, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

e-mail problem

my sister wants an account but she can't do it 'cus we have the same e-mail and as mentioned above in The ads I hate it when I'm on BulbaNews and the archives 'cus there are SO MANY DAM ADS WHY CAN'T WE GET RID OF THEM! but I'm getting off topic, the point is, is there any way for us to have the same e-mail address?----Ultamatecharizard 18:33, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

OK, OK, calm down... They won't let you use the same e-mail because they think it's "sockpuppeting." That means that someone with malicious intentions uses the same computer and e-mail to have multiple accounts to vandalize the site. Either go make a new e-mail for your sister or go ask an admin to make an exception. Dialgarules 18:38, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

She could just make a G-mail, hotmail, etc. otherwise, no.--DCM_{((Shut the **** up}_{Spy on My Edits))}

Regarding the ads, just go to your preferences, then click the blue "Manage your global account" link. Now, when you login on Bulbapedia, and go to check BulbaNews or the Archives, you will also be logged in there. When you're logged in, no ads will appear - Kogoro | Talk to me | 18:42, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

But without an account in the first place, that does no good. I'm pretty sure your sister will have to create her own e-mail in order to get an account. --((Marton imos)) 18:47, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Well, for the sister it doesn't but for Ultamatecharizard it will create the BulbaNews & Archives accounts (if not already done), & merge them. For the sister, yes, a new e-mail is required but one can easily be made at gmail, hotmail, etc. like DCM said. - Kogoro | Talk to me | 18:53, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

thanks about that espeically about the ads I'll get on it soon----Ultamatecharizard 22:11, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Wow.

I see the main page got a makeover. Nice. And the Did you know" section was finally changed! --SharKing _{((Talk to the King!))} 14:09, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Happy Ninth, Gold and Silver! --Jonouchi 14:37, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

WOOT I can't believe its been NINE years!! Rucario 64 20:04, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

And the whole Typhlosion (Echidna) for message from the editor is awesome.--MisterE13 21:29, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Haha, I didn't see the connection there. Should Meganium have a little dancing sprite too (as third starter)? Or is there a secret reason that this non-player of Gold and Silver doesn't realise? — THE TROM — 21:47, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Its Gorgous.--DCM_{((Shut the **** up}_{Spy on My Edits))}

I think that a remake will happen before this time next year. Their probably waiting 4 the 10 anneversory of GS --_{Pretty Pretty Shiny Shiny} _{Dont bug me}

It's spelled "gorgeous." ShinyPikachu, put a </sub> after your sig is done. And it's been nine years since GS? Wow... Nine years and nothing has been heard from the ol' Johto region... --DialgaRULES 23:12, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

No, I was referring to the greek philospher, Gorgias. moving on. The sprites are nifty, and i like the color scheme--DCM_{((Shut the **** up}_{Spy on My Edits))}

Meganium wasn't there really because there was no place for it. But I suppose I can put it there... TTEchidna 23:33, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

great job TTE----Ultamate _Charizard 23:52, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

I like it a lot. Wasn't it just recently the 6th Anniversary of Ruby & Sapphire? Yin Yang 05:42, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

It looked SO good, couldn't we have kept it, at least until GSDS or generation V?--MisterE13 14:10, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

It looked tropical to me XD TESH IGIGAS 16:49, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Usertags

Every time I add a usertag to my page, it gets eaten by the one above. What must I do to stop this (I'm signing here so my signiture won't be eaten as well)? LordArceus 03:43, 23 November 2008 (UTC) Example:

File:OakSprite.png	This user knows what he is talking about.

Try it now--RexRacer -talk 03:48, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Closing it would be nice--DCM_{((Shut the **** up}_{Spy on My Edits))}

I tried several different combonations of } and |, but in the end I needed help. Thank you for providing it, RexRacer! LordArceus 03:54, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Wait... How do you make usertags? GuyNamedSean 18:54, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Just look at the coding for this one, and copy+paste it. if you know a little bit about wiki-coding, you shouldn't have much trouble changing it to say what you like. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 20:09, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Edit request

I'm requesting an edit. Please make all the headers smaller, such as making level 1 headers into level 2 headers, level 2 headers into level 3 headers, etc. ^Chocolate_{((Talk to Me|Look at My Contributions))} 01:24, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Any particular reason? They seem fine as they are to me, are they showing up too big in your browser or something of the sort? -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 01:31, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

It should be like that because almost every other page on the 'Pedia has it like that. ^Chocolate_{((Talk to Me|Look at My Contributions))} 01:35, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

The text gets much smaller with each added level, however. To make up for the edit, all the headers would need to be giving <big> tags as well as the additional levels, while the current setup doesn't actually hurt the page. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 01:40, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

But I saw something in the MoS before that said to always start out with level 2 headers. Plus, TTE greatly opposes level 1 headers. ^Chocolate_{((Talk to Me|Look at My Contributions))} 01:42, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Main Page is a different thing. Level 1 headers are fine here. TTEchidna 01:59, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Why are level 1 headers okay on the main page? They're too big IMO. ^Chocolate_{((Talk to Me|Look at My Contributions))} 02:01, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

I would say it's the size that makes them okay here. The main page isn't an article in the sense that it's about a certain topic, it's about multiple topics. Thus, the main sections get larger headers then your average article, which only has a single H1 header (the title of the page is an H1 header), and sub-sections in H2 headers. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 04:52, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Consider Bulbapedia as "The BIG book of Pokémon". The Main Page is the cover of the book and will need big titles, and, as you delve deeper into the book, the headers become smaller because they are the different chapters. TESH IGIGAS 20:18, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

If we sized the biggest heading down, then all the small headings would become way too small. LordArceus 20:20, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Dead links

What is the official policy on non-existant links? Assuming he isn't planning to create an article for them, should one leave them red or change them to text? LordArceus 20:13, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

who is creating red links? and dont do it yourself, it shows up in the wanted pages. -- MAG NE DETH 20:20, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't think you really intended to, but you answered my question. LordArceus 20:36, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Delete if in mainspace AND if its a mispellingDCM_{((Shut the **** up}_{Spy on My Edits))}

avoid red links unless its an article that really should be created, like, Modified format (TCG). -- MAG NE DETH 20:41, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Mostly, let an admin deal with redlinks. They know what to do the most, and they know what is notable and what isn't. All redlinks appear in the Wanted pages, and I check that for mistakes daily...so, an admin will get them sooner or later. ^Maverick _Nate 23:50, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

READ THIS

This is a truly annoying error; I want permission to change it...Lord Arceus 15:56, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Then fix it. its not toughDCM_{((曲奇饼妖怪}_{Spy on My Edits))}

Shiny and new!

Anyone got anything to say for the Main Page? TTEchidna 08:58, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Yeah. It's great! And why not keep them permanently?--Di b y 10:52, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Was hoping noone would reply.... I actually like it, Nice and clean. But too bad were not gonna keep it permanently....--Force ^Fire talk 11:00, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

It took me a moment to get used to it. It looks awesome, and incorporates the mascot and colors of the site very well. Trainer-c 12:23, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

I like it. Shame it's not permanent. - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talk • contribs) 18:38, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

The default colors can be found at {{Main Page/Default}}. TTEchidna 20:23, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Why isn't this permanent? Bulbapedian - Talk 21:07, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

If we be's making a move template

I suggest instead ov the typing of the pokémon, like everywhere else, we colour the moves. An example would be, if a pokémon's level-up moves were posion jap and then water gun, it would look like this Poison jab water gun. Who agrees? Strong Intelligent

The downside of that is that is there's a few colors that are quite close. For example:

Ghost
Poison
Dragon

Unless you've got them memorized, or we stick a rather large color-key at the top of every movelist, it would be easy to confuse those three, just for one example (since they're all shades of purple).

I'm all for coloring, but if anything, it would only be done in addition to other info. Which might be a good idea, assuming the colors don't make it tougher to read or anything. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 18:38, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

So, what do you mean, for the party template or for the level up/TM/HM/MT lists? TTEchidna 20:23, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Yeah. Any problems? Strong Intelligent

Oops. Level up ect moves. Strong Intelligent

Except we already have a column in those tables that shows the type (with a coloured background).--MisterE13 22:10, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Mobile version

I was wondering and thought: should Bulbapedia have a mobile version, specially for the iPhone/iPod touch? I'm suggesting this because Wikipedia recently launched a mobile version. It would be very useful since sometimes people need to access Bulbapedia and can't go to a computer and because the full version is not very practical to use in a mobile device. Pokemon lover 22:47, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Good idea. Yin Yang 22:26, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

We will be doing this in the near future. TTEchidna 01:10, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

RIP Maddie

You will be missed. --Jonouchi 01:29, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

I am crushed! --Vhayes1992 02:43, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

I want to thank whoever changed the template for the main page to be white and feature Meowth with the rest of Team Rocket's Pokemon. Thank You. --Kyle95 9:49, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Edit Count

For those interested, I've figured out how to trick a Wikipedia tool into working for Bulbapedia. Check it out if you're interested about the eternal war between the mainspace and the allied forces of everything else; just change the site from the default (en.wikipedia.org) to bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net. Have fun! — THE TROM — 06:50, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

User:Gligar and I already had a link for that on our Userpages....DCM_{((曲奇饼妖怪}_{Spy on My Edits))}

And now there's a link to it on the Main Page's talk. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 13:18, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Touché, Mr. Bond.DCM_{((曲奇饼妖怪}_{Spy on My Edits))}

Oughtn't be used so often, plz. TTEchidna 01:09, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Wait a second......

What happened to all the other skins?DCM_{((曲奇饼妖怪}_{Spy on My Edits))}

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 I am crushed! --[[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 02:43, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
+I want to thank whoever changed the template for the main page to be white and feature Meowth with the rest of Team Rocket's Pokemon. Thank You. --[[User: Kyle95|Kyle95]] 9:49, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
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