Talk:Magearna (Pokémon)

Can we please make this page with the NewPokemon template? --TheMaskedMeowth (talk) 23:49, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

It's already being worked on here.--Mister E 13 23:53, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

Is it just me...

...or does her "dress" look kinda like a Poke Ball? Nutter Butter (talk) 14:42, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Nvm it's already mentioned. Although I don't see the Poke Ball similarities in her upper chest... Nutter Butter (talk) 14:45, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

I think Magearna looks similar to Diancie in some way... Or it's just me. Dragoombanite (talk) 01:01, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

The SM website says that Magearna can curl into a Poke Ball shape when it's sad or asleep. Should we add that? It seems to change from this "form" as it is sent out into battle. (it was shown in the recent trailer: the one with Pikipek, Yungoos etc. The Japanese trailer for the Volcanion movie shows it curling into a ball as well I think) DecafSnorlax (talk) 21:43, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

Generation VI

Is there a way to remove that from the categories? New Pokémon have only ever been introduced at the beginning of a Generation so Magiana is most likely a Generation VII Pokémon. --Hoenn Master 09:33, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

Template no longer defaults to any Generation and won't apply a Generation category until a Generation is input. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 10:09, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

Just gonna put it out there, that in this day and age is is VERY easy for Nintendo to patch in a new hidden pokemon. Not saying that's gonna happen, but we shouldn't discount it either. --Lego3400 (talk) 01:39, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Volcanion as previous

Technically we don't know her exact location in the Poke Dex, so we shouldn't have Volcanion listed as the previous dex entry. Nutter Butter (talk) 01:25, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

It's the previous Pokémon revealed, and it's not like Volcanion skipped a number/multiple numbers, so that's probably why we have it listed as the previous Pokémon.--HyruleWarrior (talk) 23:24, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

When we didn't have any dex info we didn't list it like that. And there's also the fact that we don't even know if Magearna is a Gen VI Pokemon - she could be a Gen VII and is being introduced early like Lucario/Zoroark/etc. If this is the case, which we have no evidence for either way, she probably isn't next to Volcanion - the starters and such are probably between them. Nutter Butter (talk) 03:29, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

It's possible that Magearna might be placed after Volcanion in the Pokédex like how Victini is after Arceus. --PKMNAdventurer (talk) 05:29, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Keyword: possible. Not confirmed. Nutter Butter (talk) 16:53, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Any admin want to change this please? Nutter Butter (talk) 15:40, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

Moon Marking on Forehead?

I can see the supposed moon marking, but it looks more like an eye to me. LittleOmu (talk) 03:48, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

I don't see a moon marking. It looks more like an eye, as you said. But I think it's more just trying to "carve out" the face into a different shape than anything. Myzou (talk) 11:12, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

FYI Especially in light of the Sun/Moon name/theme, this silvery spherical bunny pokémon is clearly a reference to the moon rabbit and thus the likely game mascot for Pokémon Moon. (So yes, those are most probably supposed to be crescent moons.) Twincast (talk) 22:26, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Magearna is a Mythical Pokemon, which have never once been a game mascot. So don't count on it. And even then, it's purely speculation until we get confirmation. Ataro (talk) 22:46, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Japanese -> English Name Trivia?

I know trivia is usually avoided until more info is known, but unless I'm overlooking one, Magearna is the only mythical pokemon to have the English name differ from the Japanese name. Isn't that a rather notable thing? Myzou (talk) 11:12, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

It's actually the same. Gia = Gear, and the rest isn't changed at all. :|b Dragoness (talk) 15:44, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, since katakana is used for words that are derived from another language (including English). Like in Citronic Gear (シトロニックギア; which is romanized character-by-character as Shitoronikku Gia). We don't do the romanizations of the separate characters, that's the secondary romanization system used here I believe. The official romanization used by the Japanese Pokémon Company is Magearna, because that's what they intended to spell. They're just limited to Japanese sounds, so that's where "gia" is from. It's a close Japanese estimate to the English word, since it's an English word that has been adapted for use in the Japanese language to mean the same thing as its English equivalent. - HyruleWarrior (talk) 19:31, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

Date

February 14, 2015? Mega Swampert (talk) 13:58, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Type

I'm pretty sure Magiana is steel type. It's pretty obvious just by looking at it. Crum Mum 00:36, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

We will not add speculation in the mainspace, however likely or reasonable it may seem. Tiddlywinks (talk) 00:45, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

Latest issue of corocoro says that it's steel/fairy. Pyritie (talk) 10:42, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

A request…

Can someone please change It was leaked in the March issue of [[CoroCoro]] released on February 10, 2016, and it was officially revealed on February 14, 2016. to It was the first [[Generation VII]] Pokémon to be revealed to the public, in February 2016. for me? SaturnMario, his talk and his contributions 18:28, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

No, we can't. It still hasn't officially been announced that Magearna is a Generation 7 Pokémon (though I still hope that it is done as early as possible). So sorry, until official statement, it remains the way it is.Harryghost (talk) 23:19, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

@Harryghost - It seems an admin has already added it though.--HyruleWarrior (talk) 23:24, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, my bad! I was absolutely oblivious of the Pokémon Sun and Moon confirmation thing when I wrote the comment. So, sorry! Harryghost (talk) 09:36, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

Are we sure that Magearna will be mythical?

Nobody has yet leaked its stats or egg groups. sumwun (talk) 04:03, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

The official site explicitly states that it is Mythical. --Abcboy (talk) 04:09, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

Origin

Isn't Magearna also based on the moon rabbit? Christian (talk) 19:34, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

We know very little about it, so it's hard to say. So far, nothing has connected it to the moon. Ataro (talk) 21:30, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

Flowers

There appears to be a connection between Magearna and artificial blossoms, presumably generated from/with its/her hands, according to the movie trailer (and promotional artwork in merchandice on eBay). I am monitoring closely to see if this is a Magearna trait. Jaylaw (talk) 21:03, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

You're right. Its signature move is Fleur Cannon, and "fleur" is French for "flower". Can someone update the page with Fleur Cannon? DecafSnorlax (talk) 21:46, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

Russian name

Could someone please add this line to the In other languages section?

|ru=Магирна Magirna|Transcription of English name

--Ralts eye 17:11, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Karakuri Puppet?

Do we have any evidence to believe Magearna is based off of a karakuri puppet? While I would agree that it is likely based off of historical automatons, I would argue that Leonardo da Vinci's robot[1] has more evidence as a source of inspiration. Leonardo da Vinci lived 500 years ago, just as Magearna's creator did, and could very easily be described as a "scientist of uncommon genius". Also, in this trailer[2] for the Magearna movie, Magearna's creator appears remarkably similar to da Vinci and has a studio that appears to be inspired by his.

As a comparison, karakuri puppets were originally made in the 17th to 19th centuries, placing them at least 50 years after Leonardo's robot, and were most famously known for being made by Tanaka Hisashige, who wasn't born until 1799. Paᗧ•••ᗣck 03:00, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Please add this category

Please add this category to the page since it is locked: Category:Pokémon that appeared in the anime before their game debut. --Hoenn Master 03:07, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

Couple of things

First, thank you whoever cleaned the trivia about Mana up without removing it. Second, I'm sorry for earlier with the edit war, I did not get the"New Member" message till afterwards. TsukikoKoizumi (talk) 08:16, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

Original Color

The Bulbagarden BulbaHandbook already uploaded an image of the original color form: [3]. I don't know where this artwork came from (Sugimori?) so I didn't want to re-upload this on Archives (as I couldn't prove fair use), but it seems it's not on Archives currently, or at least didn't come up when I searched for Magearna. However this seems a special situation because it's already on Bulbagarden. Can someone look into this and re-upload to Archives and then we can include on this page in the infobox? Kidburla (talk) 22:06, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

It is right to call it original color? It was clearly painted.-- Robin Maximo (talk) 11:12, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

Considering that is its official name, then yes. Playerking95 (talk) 12:51, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

Name Origin

I noticed my edit got reverted because of pronunciation... a pun doesn't have to be pronounced correctly to still exist; I'm pretty sure the first part of Magearna's name is a reference to "magic" or "mage", considering Magearna is literally a metal magic caster. The play on words is almost certainly magic/mage combined with gear and machina. Not sure what the specifications are for the "Name origin" section but this isn't the only Pokemon whose name pun is pronounced differently than their root word(s). In fact, its virtually all Pokemon with name puns. --Thekillernacho (talk) 13:30, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

Name origins have to make some sort of sense. How exactly is Magearna associated with magic? (outside of being a Fairy-type, I guess). Ataro (talk) 17:53, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

Shiny Form

Should it be mentioned that its Shiny Form is no different from its regular? Thanks The IceCream (talk) 14:50, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

New comments go at the bottom of the page. Magearna's shiny form coloration is lighter that it's normal form, there's certainly a difference if you compare the regular to the shiny sprite.--Force Fire 15:46, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

Shiny Debate

So, I know that this was brought up over a year ago, but I have been doing some research, and it turns out that no, there is no difference between Magearna's normal and shiny sprites in its original forms. I downloaded the model from Models Resource (here: https://www.models-resource.com/3ds/pokemonsunmoon/model/20054/), and it said in the read me file, and I quote, "Shiny is the exact same." Furthermore, looking at the Shiny Pokémon Previews from Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon, from Spriters Resource (here: https://www.spriters-resource.com/3ds/pokemonultrasunultramoon/sheet/104428/ for shiny and here: https://www.spriters-resource.com/3ds/pokemonultrasunultramoon/sheet/104427/ for normal), only the shiny Magearna for its Original Color is listed. There is no shiny for Magearna in its normal form because there is none. Iml908 (talk) 02:35, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Alice in Wonderland

I noticed that Magearna is themed after the novel, Alice in Wonderland. I want to dispute the removal of this fact from the origin section due its strong association with the novel with reasons below.

Its head and ears resembling a rabbit (a reference to the White Rabbit from Alice in Wonderland)
It body resembling that of a 19th century dress (Alice in Wonderland sets in the 19th century and if you take a look at the titular character, you can see she wears a dress similar to what Alice wears in terms of design)
It being a Fairy-type Pokemon (Alice in Wonderland is a fantasy novel, Fairy-type Pokemon are usually themed after fantasy fiction)
Magerna's colors (red, silver, white and black in it's shiny form) may be a reference to the Queen of Hearts (if you take a look at the character, her dress is colored red, black, white and silver). These colors are not just themed after a Poke Ball.

I want to let you guys know that I added this upon inspection and further research on this Pokemon. If you think this may be missing or may not accurate, you can explain this. If you have any more evidence of this, let me know. Thanks. TwistedMeow (talk) 18:47, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

Personally I feel it's stretching a bit as there is nothing in the Pokémon's lore really connecting it to the novel, all of these are cisual observations that may or may not be true. And the fairy Pokémon part has even less relevance since there aren't any fairies in Alice in Wonderland... --Spriteit (talk) 08:12, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

One of the users on the forums (Parissong) managed to point the connection out too. Here are some of his points:

Magearna seems to give off of a Steampunk vibe it being a princess and all yet all mechanical. Steampunk draws inspiration from 19th century machinery. Alice in Wonderland was written mid 19th-century (1865).
It's ability "Soul-Heart" (and it's name) could be a reference to the novel as hearts is pretty represented in AiW (Queen of Hearts, Knave of Hearts, etc.) and Lewis Caroll's quote "She who saves a single soul, saves the universe".

TwistedMeow (talk) 04:21, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

That still seems very vague and indirect. You're going to need a more direct connection than that. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 05:14, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

That's very vague and loose. You went from Steampunk to 19th century and then to Alice, there is no connection. If Magearna is based of steam machinery, then that's what it's based off, not Alice in Wonderland. That's like saying Sentret is based off the Tanuki suit from Mario and not the Tanuki itself.--Force Fire 05:34, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

I want to ask the designer about this if Magearna is based on Alice or steampunkery because my edit that has been removed could be very controversial. TwistedMeow (talk) 06:34, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

I'm not seeing how removing your edit is controversial. The only one advancing this so-called similarity is you and no one else is apparently catching on. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 09:03, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

Are you say these are small theories? TwistedMeow (talk) 03:31, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

I'm just saying that, without a source to back up your word, they're unsubstantial. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 07:43, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

So its jossed, you mean. TwistedMeow (talk) 09:08, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

Pretty much. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 19:15, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

Original color form now available?

There have been sporadic reports of people (e.g. https://mobile.twitter.com/SerebiiNet/status/1228610984840921088) receiving an original color Magearna as a gift Pokémon from Pokémon HOME after completing the National Dex, but not everyone who has completed it says they've gotten one. Some people think it might be a bizarre glitch, but Nintendo hasn't made any statement on it yet.

Should we tentatively note that it might be available or hold off for now?--UB00 (talk) 17:17, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

We should wait for now until we have an official confirmation stating that the Original Color Magearna is a gift Pokémon or not. The Pokémon twitter has made no statement about Magearna yet. Frozen Fennec 17:30, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

Magearna first seen in XYZ

I know it was officially introduced in Generation 7 but wasn’t it first seen in M19 as that movie was mainly focused on the XY&Z series? or am i being a total dumbass and missing something? Kinda like how Mega Evolution was first seen in M16 which was focused on the BW series but yet it was introduced in Gen 6. ----i n u k o i n u (talk) 18:58, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Many Pokémon have appeared in the anime before their debut games have been released. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 19:13, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

ah, okay. thanks for reminding me. ----i n u k o i n u (talk) 13:43, 5 April 2020 (UTC)